Anyone have a problem with spombs snapping off ? I am using 20lb breaking strain braided spomb line with a 50lb shock leader but for some reason this weekend the spombs snap off before hitting the water. I also wet the reel before i cast as i was told this helped . I use a back to back grinner knot , four turns on each but still losing my spombs 😢 any tips would be much appreciated .
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Snapped? What actually has snapped? You aren't gonna snap 50lb shockleader, did it snap at the leader to 20lb braid knot or snapped at the Spomb itself?
Most likely scenario a is a knot failing.
Most likely scenario a is a knot failing.
In reply to Post #1
As others have said, where about is it snapping?
If it is not snapping at the leader knot and it is the braid that is snapping, are you using a dedicated spod rod with 50mm guides?
When I first started spodding I tried to get away with an old carp rod (using a medium spomb so approx 3-4oz in weight) and the braid would frap-up against the first guide and cause the line to crack-off. My solution was to purchase a dedicated spod/marker rod using spod/marker braid tied to a SUBline Tapered Leader (10lb to 40lb) with an albright knot. - Not had an issue since...
As others have said, where about is it snapping?
If it is not snapping at the leader knot and it is the braid that is snapping, are you using a dedicated spod rod with 50mm guides?
When I first started spodding I tried to get away with an old carp rod (using a medium spomb so approx 3-4oz in weight) and the braid would frap-up against the first guide and cause the line to crack-off. My solution was to purchase a dedicated spod/marker rod using spod/marker braid tied to a SUBline Tapered Leader (10lb to 40lb) with an albright knot. - Not had an issue since...
In reply to Post #2
I snapped 50lb braid with a marker lead and float and spod frequently.
I ended up going back to a monofilament (30lb Amnesia or 40lb Greased Weasel leader) to braid and it reduced it to zero crack-offs.
Braid has zero stretch, so although it may be 50lb you might need to double that for casting with a 5oz lead or spod!
Yet with a 30/40lb mono leader it can handle it.
I snapped 50lb braid with a marker lead and float and spod frequently.
I ended up going back to a monofilament (30lb Amnesia or 40lb Greased Weasel leader) to braid and it reduced it to zero crack-offs.
Braid has zero stretch, so although it may be 50lb you might need to double that for casting with a 5oz lead or spod!
Yet with a 30/40lb mono leader it can handle it.
Braid certainly does have some stretch in it
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That has certainly not been my experience. Be interesting to know which braid or braids you use
That has certainly not been my experience. Be interesting to know which braid or braids you use
In reply to Post #5
I suppose if you want to be pedantic you could class between 1-3% as 'some stretch', but it is nowhere near the stretch of the fluorocarbon or nylon monofilament which are between 15-25%
I suppose if you want to be pedantic you could class between 1-3% as 'some stretch', but it is nowhere near the stretch of the fluorocarbon or nylon monofilament which are between 15-25%
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I've been under the impression that braid has no stretch I know I am probably the only one but I hate braid using it for spodding to using it for jigging it's so limp trying to tie a knot in the wind with it much prefer mono
I've been under the impression that braid has no stretch I know I am probably the only one but I hate braid using it for spodding to using it for jigging it's so limp trying to tie a knot in the wind with it much prefer mono
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New to spodding and had my first spod crack off this weekend. Thankfully the spod drifted back somewhere I could collect it, which saved me £15 to buy a new dot spod and allowed me to see what happened. Looks like the Mahin knot I used to connect the 50lb armacord shockleader to the 20lb Exocet spod braid failed. The spod came back with all the leader right to the very end with the granny knot that the mahin knot uses as an anchor, but without any of the main line braid.
Am assuming I tied it wrong. Retied it and didn't have any further crack offs, tho I'd already done most of my spodding by then so didn't really test it.
If I have further crack offs with the mahin knot then may shift to a grinner as an alternative and see if that helps.
New to spodding and had my first spod crack off this weekend. Thankfully the spod drifted back somewhere I could collect it, which saved me £15 to buy a new dot spod and allowed me to see what happened. Looks like the Mahin knot I used to connect the 50lb armacord shockleader to the 20lb Exocet spod braid failed. The spod came back with all the leader right to the very end with the granny knot that the mahin knot uses as an anchor, but without any of the main line braid.
Am assuming I tied it wrong. Retied it and didn't have any further crack offs, tho I'd already done most of my spodding by then so didn't really test it.
If I have further crack offs with the mahin knot then may shift to a grinner as an alternative and see if that helps.
If the braid drys out it will snap easily, I sue 50lb straight through but what I do is just drop the tip into the water on the wind in, it will wet the line and the spool aswell it definitely helps with snap offs
In reply to Post #8
To be honest I much prefer using mono for spodding myself, with a shockleader, but since I joined the current syndicate, I switched to the one rod for leading around and spod/Spomb'ing.
The braid wind knots can be a flaming nightmare on those occasional miscast or 'slack' retrieves. It takes me longer to unpick them than actual spodding a bucket of bait in.
To be honest I much prefer using mono for spodding myself, with a shockleader, but since I joined the current syndicate, I switched to the one rod for leading around and spod/Spomb'ing.
The braid wind knots can be a flaming nightmare on those occasional miscast or 'slack' retrieves. It takes me longer to unpick them than actual spodding a bucket of bait in.
In reply to Post #1
Are you holding the rod vertically after casting to allow it to take the impact out of the spod hitting the clip? If you're holding the rod pointing forwards you'll snap off constantly.
Are you holding the rod vertically after casting to allow it to take the impact out of the spod hitting the clip? If you're holding the rod pointing forwards you'll snap off constantly.
Unless mega casting (150yds+) 50lb braid straight through (no leader) with a dedicated spod/spomb rod and reel will be fine, a few years back when fishing a big pit I had a couple of crack offs and it was always the knot joining leader to main braid that wrapped around the butt ring that caused the crack off.
Straight through with a reputable braid is the way to go
Michael
Straight through with a reputable braid is the way to go
Michael
In reply to Post #13
I agree, although @ 50 lb you don't even need a reputable braid imo. I just bought the cheapest 50 lb rubbish I could find and 3 or 4 years later it's still going strong.
I agree, although @ 50 lb you don't even need a reputable braid imo. I just bought the cheapest 50 lb rubbish I could find and 3 or 4 years later it's still going strong.
In reply to Post #14
Only thing I would say with that Yonny is that they check the diameter as well as the BS. Some of the cheaper 50lb eBay specials come out at .40, bit overkill IMO.
Only thing I would say with that Yonny is that they check the diameter as well as the BS. Some of the cheaper 50lb eBay specials come out at .40, bit overkill IMO.