So guys if I can't fit a towbar on a m5 touring and I have to get a van which one should I get and should I rent or buy it i am planning on months of travel in Europe so I don't know what to do, please help and thanks in advance
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Are you going to live in it aswell
Are you going to live in it aswell
Personally on a breakdown point I would get a Mercedes Vito
I drive a merc and when I get it serviced I get a full years European road side cover, so worth looking into it if they cover vans also 👍
I drive a merc and when I get it serviced I get a full years European road side cover, so worth looking into it if they cover vans also 👍
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A reliable one .
A reliable one .
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I'd suggest you keep away from anything German as the reliability isn't great and they'll be over priced but that's just my experience but there's a reason why Mercedes rebadge Renault Kangoo's and Toyota rebadge the Peugeot Expert as a Toyota..
I'd suggest you keep away from anything German as the reliability isn't great and they'll be over priced but that's just my experience but there's a reason why Mercedes rebadge Renault Kangoo's and Toyota rebadge the Peugeot Expert as a Toyota..
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For resale (and street cred
) I'd go for a transporter (earlier 180 bi-turbo is generally thought to be avoided) they are expensive though. The new shape pro- ace also looks decent and being Toyota will be reliable.
For resale (and street cred
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The new shape Proace isnt a Toyota its a Peugeot and is a terrible vehicle, my company uses them for its fleet of approx 90 vans countrywide on a lease agreement, we swapped over from VW Caddy's and its the worst move we've ever made, not that they are unreliable necessarily but warning lights and recalls have been mental, 9 recalls in two years, ive had to take mine in twice for an engine management warning and its the same for a lot of the guys, the last time i had to wait a month for them to get a part, i guess thats to do with it being a Peugeot, i wouldnt go anywhere near a Proace if i had a choice
The new shape Proace isnt a Toyota its a Peugeot and is a terrible vehicle, my company uses them for its fleet of approx 90 vans countrywide on a lease agreement, we swapped over from VW Caddy's and its the worst move we've ever made, not that they are unreliable necessarily but warning lights and recalls have been mental, 9 recalls in two years, ive had to take mine in twice for an engine management warning and its the same for a lot of the guys, the last time i had to wait a month for them to get a part, i guess thats to do with it being a Peugeot, i wouldnt go anywhere near a Proace if i had a choice
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I find that surprising, had only previously heard good things about the pro aces. I have a dsg t6 and think its fantastic.
I find that surprising, had only previously heard good things about the pro aces. I have a dsg t6 and think its fantastic.
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Ford Transit Custom
Ford Transit Custom
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given how we Brits are likely to viewed in Europe for the foreseeable future, I'd be looking to hire one over there (with European plates / LHD etc.)...
I know that means getting your gear over is a pain, but perhaps there's a way around that. a short term hire to get your kit over - then a hire from the port to get you on your tour. Sounds a bit of a kerfuffle but who knows how many tetchy French police you'll avoid in the long run...
given how we Brits are likely to viewed in Europe for the foreseeable future, I'd be looking to hire one over there (with European plates / LHD etc.)...
I know that means getting your gear over is a pain, but perhaps there's a way around that. a short term hire to get your kit over - then a hire from the port to get you on your tour. Sounds a bit of a kerfuffle but who knows how many tetchy French police you'll avoid in the long run...
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LOL. And we know how honest VW are coming forward with problems on their motors...
TBH there doesn't seem to be a lot between them.
https://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/peugeot/expert-2016/
https://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/volkswagen/transporter-t6-2015/
LOL. And we know how honest VW are coming forward with problems on their motors...
TBH there doesn't seem to be a lot between them.
https://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/peugeot/expert-2016/
https://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/volkswagen/transporter-t6-2015/
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If you're going round Europe I'd be steering clear of anything that parts aren't readily available for, so I'd be sticking to European made, unless you have days to spare waiting. I'd be having a real look into what vans are basically the same under the bonnet, you may be surprised to find that engines are derivative and there's very little difference between a lot of the makes, so for example the DV6 is to found in various guises in Citroen/Renault/Peugeot/Audi/Ford and probably others I can't remember or haven't looked into.
I would never have swapped to Citroen from VW if I had a choice at that time, my Berlingo passed it's MOT again this week at 15 years old, I have been converted
I always promised myself a Transporter but the new look Dispatch are very nice, even dare I say it even more aggressive in looks, which I like.
If you're going round Europe I'd be steering clear of anything that parts aren't readily available for, so I'd be sticking to European made, unless you have days to spare waiting. I'd be having a real look into what vans are basically the same under the bonnet, you may be surprised to find that engines are derivative and there's very little difference between a lot of the makes, so for example the DV6 is to found in various guises in Citroen/Renault/Peugeot/Audi/Ford and probably others I can't remember or haven't looked into.
I would never have swapped to Citroen from VW if I had a choice at that time, my Berlingo passed it's MOT again this week at 15 years old, I have been converted
I always promised myself a Transporter but the new look Dispatch are very nice, even dare I say it even more aggressive in looks, which I like.
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Have got to agree with oldgeezer, Transit Custom, any model.
And have it rempped to 200 bhp, you get there with a bigger smile on your face.
Have got to agree with oldgeezer, Transit Custom, any model.
And have it rempped to 200 bhp, you get there with a bigger smile on your face.
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Do you have the E61 M5 tourer ? If so there are plenty of tow bars available for them.
Do you have the E61 M5 tourer ? If so there are plenty of tow bars available for them.
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I've got the new look Citroen Dispatch 18 plate 2litre 6 speed and wouldn't swap it for anything else,I've also had 3 Berlingo's in the past and not had any trouble with them what so ever
I've got the new look Citroen Dispatch 18 plate 2litre 6 speed and wouldn't swap it for anything else,I've also had 3 Berlingo's in the past and not had any trouble with them what so ever