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Cold Feet (47 posts / 5,895 views)
Belch Belch
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Post #1 17 Nov 2020 09:22
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. . .age . . it catches up with all of us; especially my tootsies it would seem . . .

Last session (Fri-Sun) last week it wasn't Baltic but my feet really started to 'feel it' especially at the dormant dark period from 4.30 till bedtime. Currently sporting breathable leather ankle boots with a goretex liner and the warmest heavyweight merino Bridgedale socks - walking around / doing stuff this set up is fine as my feet dont sweat / stay dry perfectly . . however when static the cold eventually seems to set in. This is with them planted on a neoprene bivvy mat and ground sheet below . . !

I've got Skee-tex wellies / Sundridge Hotfoot boots but both were made redundant years ago as eventually and inevitably your feet sweat and feel even colder than before. They are also heavy and cumbersome . . .

So on this basis (unless anyones got any better ideas) I thought of these . . .

Cheap n cheerful

but maybe better still these

More expensive

Like the look of the above as they can be recharged on the power pack and only used (via remote ffs!) when a blast of heat is required . . .

Any one got any experience with either . . ? (Gerry . .?!!)

Cheers
darkoL darkoL
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Post #2 17 Nov 2020 09:36
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cant comment on expensive ones as I didnt use them but can say that cheap ones from decathlon work great for me... I use the ones for skiing as they stick to socks... I put them on top of my toes between two socks.
yonny yonny
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Post #3 17 Nov 2020 09:49
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I've tried loads of different options to keep the old feet warm and the most effective option I found I don't even wear on my feet. It was thermal salopettes that did it for me - keep the legs super warm and they'll supply that warm blood to the feet.
It makes sense as when it gets cold the body works to warm the core, limiting circulation to hands/feet etc. Keep the body toastie and it's job done.
Absolutely zero experience with insoles so can't help you there buddy.
darkoL darkoL
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Post #4 17 Nov 2020 09:53
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that is all good till your body works as it should, but not when you get cold feet because of bad blood circulation (genetic, medical due to various conditions or just bad life style etc).
yonny yonny
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Post #5 17 Nov 2020 10:05
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Agreed mate. Wasn't aware the OP had genetic/medical issues or bad life style
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #6 17 Nov 2020 10:09
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Have you tried Kayak Boots? In "Normal times" I do a bit of kayaking and the neoprene Boots are superb for keeping your feet warm even when submerged in water for hours.

I've started to wear them for night-fishing, as you also have the advantage of being able to keeping them on while in the sleeping bag. Get a run and no messing around with footwear, if muddy you just wash them off in margins and dry off.

SOLA ALL PURPOSE 5mm ZIPPED WETSUIT BOOTS kayak dinghy jet/ ski sailing ref 46/47 , like these on Ebay.
Belch Belch
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Post #7 17 Nov 2020 10:17
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. . .lol - I'm genetically perfect and live like a monk . . .

Weirdly (or not) I ski twice a year and wear ultra thin merino socks . . .I also wear merino under layers and softshell pants etc. My feet NEVER get cold but that's probably because I'm skiing which does require a modicum of effort and therefore blood movement being pumped around the body. . the key to this is breathability, and this set up works well . .

I think its being static for elongated periods that is the issue (fishing is the opposite to skiing) - I've tried to mimic my ski gear and wear fleece lined softshell pants and also waterproof breathable over trousers . . .it hasn't solved the cold feet ting tho . . @darkoL maybe I'll try the Decathlon jobbies as its my toes specifically that seem to suffer. . .

What about Vass velcro boots . . Or are they just a sweaty recipe for disaster waiting to happen?
darkoL darkoL
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Post #8 17 Nov 2020 10:22
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lol never said he does, was just pointing out that dressing up doesn't and cant always help, unfortunately know from 1st hand experience.
Hadrian
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Post #9 17 Nov 2020 12:04
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Unless as previously mentioned the problem is bad circulation, moisture will definitely be the problem. I've hillwalked and done many national trails unsupported and dampness as always caused cold feet. Gortex socks are a waste of time, if you must wear them try Dexshell socks with a thin liners underneath.. Darn Tough do some amazing socks with a lifetime guarantee too.
For me on the bank in winter, leather boots are fine with thin wool socks, but once the sun sets off they come and I go barefoot and use the old reliable fur lined moccasins in the bivvy. The socks I hang from the bivvy roof to air.
I have used heated inner soles briefly when working on site, they were okay but I found wearing waterproof boots they never dried out so I eventually bought a boot drier and that again was a game changer.
DarthMullet
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Post #10 17 Nov 2020 12:45
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Baffin Titan boots - not cheap but superb.

Don't put them on until set-up, and the same with the Merino wool socks.
chelsea7 chelsea7
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Post #11 17 Nov 2020 12:50
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Hi

After years of having the same problem and trying everything, I concluded that the issue is moisture or sweat that even the best merino socks can't remove after a while.

Once you stop moving about the moisture makes your feet cold ... I simply change socks once I have settled down and this made a big difference. In really cold weather I will also take skee tex boats but only put them on once I have changed socks and stopped moving about.

Cheers
kells kells
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Post #12 17 Nov 2020 13:31
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Watched a rather interesting Instagram post by Joe Turnbull the other day on keeping your footsie warm in the cold weather.

I to suffer with cold feet and though I have yet to try it. I will definitely give it a go.

And that was to put a piece of foil backed laminate floor underlay foil side down underneath the inner sole on your boot. The idea being that the foil deflects the cold and damp away from the sole of your feet.

I believe Baffin boots which everyone rates utilise foil in the soles of there boots for the very same reason
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Post #13 17 Nov 2020 14:24
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After years of trying allsorts of socks / liners / heated insoles / boots etc, my best combo is 3 season Merino socks, thin pair or neoprene socks over the top then Baffin Trapper boots, not had cold feet with this combo, ultimately for me it comes down to keeping the boot liners bone dry, if they get damp / cold through feet sweating then its almost impossible to keep your feet warm, the neoprene sock layer ensures the boot liners stay dry with any moisture being INSIDE the neoprene sock..
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #14 17 Nov 2020 15:01
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I have a pal that was in the military and went on cold weather exercisers the guys that wore sealskin socks were the one that suffered terribly with cold feet as in the end you will get wet feet due to the lack of breathability
he like me found the biggest advantage in keeping your feet warm
was nothing more than a QUALITY sock and importantly a LOOSE fitting waterproof boot to allow your foot to breath I use a short Muck boot a size bigger than normal


the K.I.S.S METHOD = Keep it Simple Stupid
cos lets be honest here if the lakes not freezing over it aint really that cold is it ?
Belch Belch
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Post #15 17 Nov 2020 15:08
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In reply to Post #13
. . .thing is I'm not getting wet / sweaty / and therefore cold feet through my current set up . . .my boots are leather/goretex and breath, as do my thick merino bridgedales . . .I took off my boots and socks (with the intention of changing to a fresh pair of bridgedales) mid session and both were perfectly dry . . . . .as soon as I got in my bag my feet were fine and toasty within 10mins . . .

My Skee Tex field boots (that I also own but have relegated based on the sweat/cold issue) already have foil inners . . .by the time you reach your swim your feet are already swimming! My current set up is perfect when actually moving about / casting / baiting up / fishing . . .

On this basis I'm maybe erring towards the insulated bivvy slipper idea (Snugpack insulated tent boots) as its the static bit that's a prob . . .any user experience with these?
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