Seen a few vids online of a few anglers instilling the virtues of Bloodworm as a winter loose feed.
Anyone on here used Frozen or live bloodworm as loose feed? And if so did it make a difference?
Could bloodworm be this winter's Maggot? Only time will tell I suppose.
Anyone on here used Frozen or live bloodworm as loose feed? And if so did it make a difference?
Could bloodworm be this winter's Maggot? Only time will tell I suppose.
In reply to Post #1
I would of thought it would work out on the expensive side. Also difficult to put on a carp hook.
I would of thought it would work out on the expensive side. Also difficult to put on a carp hook.
In reply to Post #1
Re invention of the wheel again I'm afraid!
Way back in the 80's when BW became commercially available to the match world it was so effective it was banned on a lot of venues, fish literally became totally pre occupied with it and in a lot of cases it was deemed a unfair advantage. It wasn't cheap either but a little went a long way and it was very good, that's if you could get hold of any before the serious match lads had pre ordered it all.
There's no doubt in my mind they're effective but they attract everything that swims, they're too soft not to get picked off a static Carp rig, though you could use fakes and free lining would work.
I have fished over BW beds with feeding Carp ripping the bottom to bits, a going bait not getting a sniff, here and abroad, even seen Cats upending over them, but I think if I had of caught it would have been incidental.
Odd how BW boilies don't appear to be more than normally effective, maybe something to do with denaturing when heated/processed or simply the lack of living chemical pathways and the associated substances, or perhaps we need wriggling boilies
EDIT, was bothering me what the other bait was that also got banned on a lot of venues but it was still in the old grey matter, if you've not heard of it look up Joker.
Re invention of the wheel again I'm afraid!
Way back in the 80's when BW became commercially available to the match world it was so effective it was banned on a lot of venues, fish literally became totally pre occupied with it and in a lot of cases it was deemed a unfair advantage. It wasn't cheap either but a little went a long way and it was very good, that's if you could get hold of any before the serious match lads had pre ordered it all.
There's no doubt in my mind they're effective but they attract everything that swims, they're too soft not to get picked off a static Carp rig, though you could use fakes and free lining would work.
I have fished over BW beds with feeding Carp ripping the bottom to bits, a going bait not getting a sniff, here and abroad, even seen Cats upending over them, but I think if I had of caught it would have been incidental.
Odd how BW boilies don't appear to be more than normally effective, maybe something to do with denaturing when heated/processed or simply the lack of living chemical pathways and the associated substances, or perhaps we need wriggling boilies
EDIT, was bothering me what the other bait was that also got banned on a lot of venues but it was still in the old grey matter, if you've not heard of it look up Joker.
In reply to Post #3
Agree, trends
Living in a once match dominated area a lot of my mates used to scrape it themselves, done a bit with them. I used to get the old match packs off them for next to nothing, bloodworm and Joker. Tried it in all sorts of combinations, don't use it to today, that says a lot, from my learning anyway.
I used to liquidise it and add it to boilies, caught me some nice fish, but so have a lot of other baits. If I'm honest, I would use it more, soaking fresh baits in it would really pull them in
I will offer a word of warning though to any potential users who fancy a dabble. I had two serious bouts of impetigo whilst using this it is FUL of bacteria. After my daughter got it too, I gave up, shameful if I'm honest but that's a fact that I know, I used to prepare it in the kitchen, blend it roll it etc. I believe they can eradicate it now though but I would not trust that
Something that also got me thinking too, it has a unique stink and that is predominantly from what and where it has been living. It was always on my mind that it was alien to the waters I was fishing, the frozen stuff predominantly and could be off putting for the fish?
Agree, trends
Living in a once match dominated area a lot of my mates used to scrape it themselves, done a bit with them. I used to get the old match packs off them for next to nothing, bloodworm and Joker. Tried it in all sorts of combinations, don't use it to today, that says a lot, from my learning anyway.
I used to liquidise it and add it to boilies, caught me some nice fish, but so have a lot of other baits. If I'm honest, I would use it more, soaking fresh baits in it would really pull them in
I will offer a word of warning though to any potential users who fancy a dabble. I had two serious bouts of impetigo whilst using this it is FUL of bacteria. After my daughter got it too, I gave up, shameful if I'm honest but that's a fact that I know, I used to prepare it in the kitchen, blend it roll it etc. I believe they can eradicate it now though but I would not trust that
Something that also got me thinking too, it has a unique stink and that is predominantly from what and where it has been living. It was always on my mind that it was alien to the waters I was fishing, the frozen stuff predominantly and could be off putting for the fish?
In reply to Post #3
Even with a bloodworm boilie I haven't managed a bite from carp tearing up a bloodworm bed unless I pushed the boilie into a method feeder with the groundbait dampened by cloudy bloodworm liquid. Had such a bite yesterday
Even with a bloodworm boilie I haven't managed a bite from carp tearing up a bloodworm bed unless I pushed the boilie into a method feeder with the groundbait dampened by cloudy bloodworm liquid. Had such a bite yesterday
In reply to Post #3
The same here. A tackle shop I used to frequent when I first started fishing. I used to remember the match boys coming in and buying there bloodworm used to get wrapped in newspaper from memory.
No overstocked carp puddles for these boys to fish back then. They was all fishing for bits on the local rivers and lakes. And bloodworm was a go to when the usual maggot was failing. Doubt there much demand by the match boys for bloodworm in the shops these days
I suppose it's just a case of a lot of these companys doing the maggot and caster to death. And just looking at another angle and bloodworm at the moment seems to be it.
The same here. A tackle shop I used to frequent when I first started fishing. I used to remember the match boys coming in and buying there bloodworm used to get wrapped in newspaper from memory.
No overstocked carp puddles for these boys to fish back then. They was all fishing for bits on the local rivers and lakes. And bloodworm was a go to when the usual maggot was failing. Doubt there much demand by the match boys for bloodworm in the shops these days
I suppose it's just a case of a lot of these companys doing the maggot and caster to death. And just looking at another angle and bloodworm at the moment seems to be it.
I had a quick nosey round the net last night, like you do when you can't sleep. Seems BW & J are still widely available, sourced from eastern Europe (Russia/Poland). I wonder if they use UV to kill off nasties, I bloody hope so.
Also read that Joker midge prefer polluted waterways with high nitrogen & organic material, apparently you get them in abundance in sewerage works, as our rivers are a lot cleaner ithese days its harder to find good sources in the U.K.
I still have a load of my coarse gear, inherited some new stuff too last year and have been thinking about a return to it but the thought of even being able to see a 24 hook nowadays
Also read that Joker midge prefer polluted waterways with high nitrogen & organic material, apparently you get them in abundance in sewerage works, as our rivers are a lot cleaner ithese days its harder to find good sources in the U.K.
I still have a load of my coarse gear, inherited some new stuff too last year and have been thinking about a return to it but the thought of even being able to see a 24 hook nowadays
In reply to Post #7
That's the problem for me. If you know matchmen you can get fresh scraped worm. I think the majority of the frozen stuff is from a third world **** pit
God knows what it's been living in
I've had conversations with suppliers and they told me it is eradicated, since I know where it's coming from, personally, it's a no for me. I can imagine that all over the hands and under the finger nails whilst eating a sausage sarni
That's the problem for me. If you know matchmen you can get fresh scraped worm. I think the majority of the frozen stuff is from a third world **** pit
God knows what it's been living in
I've had conversations with suppliers and they told me it is eradicated, since I know where it's coming from, personally, it's a no for me. I can imagine that all over the hands and under the finger nails whilst eating a sausage sarni
In reply to Post #8
Free brown sauce, what you moaning about
Free brown sauce, what you moaning about
In reply to Post #9
Exactley, impetigo, sickness, vomiting, the Black Death
Red sauce
Exactley, impetigo, sickness, vomiting, the Black Death
Red sauce
In reply to Post #10
I also live in South Yorkshire.
It's hardly surprising you ended up with impetigo.
All the best areas for collecting bloodworm and joker were the local sewage works outlet pipes.
Jealousy guarded and fiercely fought over 😎
I also live in South Yorkshire.
It's hardly surprising you ended up with impetigo.
All the best areas for collecting bloodworm and joker were the local sewage works outlet pipes.
Jealousy guarded and fiercely fought over 😎
In reply to Post #11
Think it came from liquidising it John, plus getting it everywhere when handling and rolling it, not so much as scrapping it. Used to scrape local ponds about 5 in the morning too, some were good, some not so
Think it came from liquidising it John, plus getting it everywhere when handling and rolling it, not so much as scrapping it. Used to scrape local ponds about 5 in the morning too, some were good, some not so
In my experience the frozen bloodworm isn't worth a..... it's not very good.
Live bloodworm is a whole other thing.
Live bloodworm is a whole other thing.
Very rare nowadays that live bloodworm & joker is scraped in the UK (unless the match anglers go & scrape it themselves). Most is imported from Russia or Poland as they have much larger areas where it is present and used more by the match anglers in the regions. Most of the B&J that is supplied by tackle shops comes from 2 sources & both those sources get it imported from Holland where they obtain it from Russia/Poland.
In reply to Post #14
In my 70s match time,I was well into the bloodworm scene,used to get my match packs (worm and joker) from trevs tackle walthamstow
All the worm was brought down in trays from the north each Friday,if you went sat morning it was all gone,,,
Hectic times,but now I love my “camping” 🎣
In my 70s match time,I was well into the bloodworm scene,used to get my match packs (worm and joker) from trevs tackle walthamstow
All the worm was brought down in trays from the north each Friday,if you went sat morning it was all gone,,,
Hectic times,but now I love my “camping” 🎣