Do you really think washed out baits really work?
I've tried this a few times over the last few years but never really noticed any difference... (i.e I still blanked) lol I washed them out in lake water for about 48 hours before a session but kind of felt like all the attractors would have washed out and wondered what was actually going to be left for the fish to detect
I've tried this a few times over the last few years but never really noticed any difference... (i.e I still blanked) lol I washed them out in lake water for about 48 hours before a session but kind of felt like all the attractors would have washed out and wondered what was actually going to be left for the fish to detect
In reply to Post #1
Fish will have no problem detecting a washed out bait. Wether any Low flavour levels are left in the bait or not.
Personally on some waters it can make a big difference, others not so much.
My own personal view on washing out, is that you are trying to make a ready rolled firm boilie ( big brands ) and make it appear to be ‘safe' ... unlike it has come straight out of the bag, like everyone else and 5 minutes ago, catapulted in, so it is much softer in TEXTURE, has next to no flavour, and is paler in colour.
IMHO The soft texture is the biggest edge, as most ready made branded baits are very firm for the first 12-24 hours in water.
I make my own bait to suit whatever I think is best for said venue.
Fish will have no problem detecting a washed out bait. Wether any Low flavour levels are left in the bait or not.
Personally on some waters it can make a big difference, others not so much.
My own personal view on washing out, is that you are trying to make a ready rolled firm boilie ( big brands ) and make it appear to be ‘safe' ... unlike it has come straight out of the bag, like everyone else and 5 minutes ago, catapulted in, so it is much softer in TEXTURE, has next to no flavour, and is paler in colour.
IMHO The soft texture is the biggest edge, as most ready made branded baits are very firm for the first 12-24 hours in water.
I make my own bait to suit whatever I think is best for said venue.
In reply to Post #1
It's a tactic used on harder type waters where the fish have seen it all , some anglers find that washing out a bait like you say produces baits that look like they have been in the water a couple of days , tricking the carp into eating it as it is thought to be viewed with less caution
It's a tactic used on harder type waters where the fish have seen it all , some anglers find that washing out a bait like you say produces baits that look like they have been in the water a couple of days , tricking the carp into eating it as it is thought to be viewed with less caution
In reply to Post #1
Wash out but wash it in with liquids
I believe in the 3 day rule anyway if you can do that then give it ago
Wash out but wash it in with liquids
I believe in the 3 day rule anyway if you can do that then give it ago
In reply to Post #1
The baits are soooo good, they have to be washed out before they work.
Or.. The bait is a pile of junk in the first place.
Another con.
The baits are soooo good, they have to be washed out before they work.
Or.. The bait is a pile of junk in the first place.
Another con.
In reply to Post #1
Imo spending a fortune on quality bait then washing out the attractors is ridic. By all means wash attractors in (saturation with aminos or whatever) but washing out is a very silly move
Imo spending a fortune on quality bait then washing out the attractors is ridic. By all means wash attractors in (saturation with aminos or whatever) but washing out is a very silly move
It also depends what you do with the ‘washing out' liquid. If that is part of your application, maybe mixed with a groundbait or particle, then there is an argument to say that you have made the attractors more available.
There is also a difference in using a lot of water to wash out and a bit of water to start to soften and loosen up a bait. The latter I think definitely has its merits if you only have a short amount of time to utilise the bait you are putting in.
There is also a difference in using a lot of water to wash out and a bit of water to start to soften and loosen up a bait. The latter I think definitely has its merits if you only have a short amount of time to utilise the bait you are putting in.
Personally I think it is entirely water dependant. Most waters I've fished it hasn't made a jot of difference if I've tried it, but I can think of a couple where it made a huge difference. Both relatively busy, pressured lakes.
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I understand the theory behind washed out baits, a 'new' introduction of bait that 'smells' like it has been in the water for some time, but on some waters a (hook) bait genuinely has to be in location for an extended period (2 days or more) before carp will take it.
If a bait is overflavoured, sometimes it takes a period of time before the flavours, or other attractors are at a level where it is acceptable to the fish, this is a case of 'washed out' baits being acceptable.
I know Ken T found this bait being left in situ on a lake, and I found that a bait, cast in, and left for 48 hours produced some rarely caught big fish on Brackens pool, yet other fish would take baits almost immediately.
Personally, I don't normally bother with washed out, or 'washed in' baits. I prebait a decent food bait, that is acceptable from day one, that the carp will take as it stands, however, other circumstances may mean I need a 'boosted' bait, something like crayfish, where by boosting with a glug I can stir the carp up before the crays get there, (not always easy).
The other thing, sometimes anglers don't always prebait, so the carp are wary, and the angler switches to washed out baits to try to create the 'been in the water', washed out effect.
Other reasons for washed out baits are the angler wants his bait in the water on a commercial venue, where there is plenty of bait from other anglers, the washed out will again give the effect of being in the water already...
A single hookbait or plain basic stringer and minimal baiting may work just as well.
I understand the theory behind washed out baits, a 'new' introduction of bait that 'smells' like it has been in the water for some time, but on some waters a (hook) bait genuinely has to be in location for an extended period (2 days or more) before carp will take it.
If a bait is overflavoured, sometimes it takes a period of time before the flavours, or other attractors are at a level where it is acceptable to the fish, this is a case of 'washed out' baits being acceptable.
I know Ken T found this bait being left in situ on a lake, and I found that a bait, cast in, and left for 48 hours produced some rarely caught big fish on Brackens pool, yet other fish would take baits almost immediately.
Personally, I don't normally bother with washed out, or 'washed in' baits. I prebait a decent food bait, that is acceptable from day one, that the carp will take as it stands, however, other circumstances may mean I need a 'boosted' bait, something like crayfish, where by boosting with a glug I can stir the carp up before the crays get there, (not always easy).
The other thing, sometimes anglers don't always prebait, so the carp are wary, and the angler switches to washed out baits to try to create the 'been in the water', washed out effect.
Other reasons for washed out baits are the angler wants his bait in the water on a commercial venue, where there is plenty of bait from other anglers, the washed out will again give the effect of being in the water already...
A single hookbait or plain basic stringer and minimal baiting may work just as well.
Washed out baits are also more digestible
In reply to Post #10
Utter utter rubbish. Did you engage your brain before writing that. Your evidence is...???
Utter utter rubbish. Did you engage your brain before writing that. Your evidence is...???
In reply to Post #11
I was thinking that....
I was thinking that....
In reply to Post #11
Wouldn't a softer bait pass through a carp quicker?
Wouldn't a softer bait pass through a carp quicker?
In reply to Post #13
"Passing through" does not equate to digestable. It is just another great myth... A fish cr***pping out bait, therefore it is digestable... No it isn't, if its digestable, most will be absorbed, and waste excreted normally. A ball of soggy bread and pasta, ie Nutcracker might be soft but is not as digestable as pre-digested proteins for example.
"Passing through" does not equate to digestable. It is just another great myth... A fish cr***pping out bait, therefore it is digestable... No it isn't, if its digestable, most will be absorbed, and waste excreted normally. A ball of soggy bread and pasta, ie Nutcracker might be soft but is not as digestable as pre-digested proteins for example.
In reply to Post #14
Thankyou for the explanation 👍
Thankyou for the explanation 👍