Gonna throw my rant out there been fishing a quiet day ticket for a few years now and with the coronavirus it's been busy which is to be expected the lake holds old English scaley mirrors with only a few commons and are jet black.with it being so busy people are catching and putting on social media,I get it but putting the name of the lake on there is doing my head in,personally I dont put any catches on any social media I just have an album on my computer,these people will be the first to moan when they cant get on the lake or get in a certain swim they would like to fish.
I'm lucky I have my syndicate to fall back on.i suppose it's the difference between day tickets and syndicate
I'm lucky I have my syndicate to fall back on.i suppose it's the difference between day tickets and syndicate
In reply to Post #121
Sadly its a reflection on society. Many of us old timers in here will look back with rose tinted glasses, about how we did our time migrating from catching skimmers, bream tench and then carp. We probably blanked for many sessions before we got our heads around it, sponged some advice and help form the serious carp anglers and spied on them across the lake with binoculars to see what a hair rig really looked like or what particles they were using. We had to trash our mums blender to experiment making boillies. Our first fish were so rewarding because we felt we had done the time and hard graft.
Very few of the guys I know (50+) who have fished for years started as Carp anglers in the 70's. We were just kids who enjoyed fishing and that's were we migrated to, and we have a different perspective.
Today, there is no patience,people wants instant results and some fisheries cater to that and there is so much advice out there to help people catch. I also use these fisheries sometimes when I do fancy a social with some friends who used to fish, or perhaps do fish and want to try carp fishing for a change. You can still do that and be a respectful and considerate neighbour to the bloke in the next swim.
I came to terms with this a long time ago and just remind myself why I like to go fishing and just try and select the lakes that give me the experience I want. I still get more excited when i'm leaving the house to go fishing than I do if i'm heading to the airport to catch a flight to some exotic location.
Sadly its a reflection on society. Many of us old timers in here will look back with rose tinted glasses, about how we did our time migrating from catching skimmers, bream tench and then carp. We probably blanked for many sessions before we got our heads around it, sponged some advice and help form the serious carp anglers and spied on them across the lake with binoculars to see what a hair rig really looked like or what particles they were using. We had to trash our mums blender to experiment making boillies. Our first fish were so rewarding because we felt we had done the time and hard graft.
Very few of the guys I know (50+) who have fished for years started as Carp anglers in the 70's. We were just kids who enjoyed fishing and that's were we migrated to, and we have a different perspective.
Today, there is no patience,people wants instant results and some fisheries cater to that and there is so much advice out there to help people catch. I also use these fisheries sometimes when I do fancy a social with some friends who used to fish, or perhaps do fish and want to try carp fishing for a change. You can still do that and be a respectful and considerate neighbour to the bloke in the next swim.
I came to terms with this a long time ago and just remind myself why I like to go fishing and just try and select the lakes that give me the experience I want. I still get more excited when i'm leaving the house to go fishing than I do if i'm heading to the airport to catch a flight to some exotic location.
In reply to Post #122
I'm totally with you on your comments, these wannabe Vloggers/Couldn't call them carp fishermen have made what was once a pleasure into a circus. I'm lucky that since the 80s I've been on a few syndicates which somewhat return me to an earlier time. Yet the new crowd seem to think when they are on the lake they own it, that sort of attitude is best serviced watching football. When you have Korda who make videos for the clown community what can you expect from sheep but to follow their idols bljngky and act in the same manner as these videos.
Glad I've seen some beautiful places and shared some amazing experiences in those times and maybe again if people repesct the other anglers and tone down with the Charlie n liquor on the bank....
I'm totally with you on your comments, these wannabe Vloggers/Couldn't call them carp fishermen have made what was once a pleasure into a circus. I'm lucky that since the 80s I've been on a few syndicates which somewhat return me to an earlier time. Yet the new crowd seem to think when they are on the lake they own it, that sort of attitude is best serviced watching football. When you have Korda who make videos for the clown community what can you expect from sheep but to follow their idols bljngky and act in the same manner as these videos.
Glad I've seen some beautiful places and shared some amazing experiences in those times and maybe again if people repesct the other anglers and tone down with the Charlie n liquor on the bank....
In reply to Post #122
Couldn't agree more.
Couldn't agree more.
In reply to Post #117
But that happened years ago as well, I think it was hutches carp strikes back, when he was moaning about some bloke turning up, lobbing our boilies chosen by his girlfriend cause they matched her lip stick and caught
Agree it's not ideal lake wise but it's getting people out side, on the banks away from the crap that's on Xbox, tv etc without those anglers buying tackle, paying for lakes and baits, our tackle, lake chooses will be far less,
Let's just enjoy what we do and not worry about the rest
But that happened years ago as well, I think it was hutches carp strikes back, when he was moaning about some bloke turning up, lobbing our boilies chosen by his girlfriend cause they matched her lip stick and caught
Agree it's not ideal lake wise but it's getting people out side, on the banks away from the crap that's on Xbox, tv etc without those anglers buying tackle, paying for lakes and baits, our tackle, lake chooses will be far less,
Let's just enjoy what we do and not worry about the rest
In reply to Post #1
Good thread
I'm assuming that you fished on circuit waters hence the knobs? Came across some Nash lot some years back, my oh my, what a bunch of tools, caught f**k all too.
Easy answer is to find big waters with not a great deal in, it's even better if the stock is bellow 30lb. A sure fire way to keep a *certain* type of angler away. You'll enjoy your fishing and not be pi**ed off and have your time ruined.
Good thread
I'm assuming that you fished on circuit waters hence the knobs? Came across some Nash lot some years back, my oh my, what a bunch of tools, caught f**k all too.
Easy answer is to find big waters with not a great deal in, it's even better if the stock is bellow 30lb. A sure fire way to keep a *certain* type of angler away. You'll enjoy your fishing and not be pi**ed off and have your time ruined.
In reply to Post #1
Just re read this thread from the beginning and it reminded me of when i was fishing at dartford in 1984 with my new rods from the tackle box. The bailiff came up behind me and said " you won't catch anything with those cheap rods here.".. Proved him wrong, but he was an A1 ars@#!e.
They were great rods too.
Just re read this thread from the beginning and it reminded me of when i was fishing at dartford in 1984 with my new rods from the tackle box. The bailiff came up behind me and said " you won't catch anything with those cheap rods here.".. Proved him wrong, but he was an A1 ars@#!e.
They were great rods too.
In reply to Post #127
Sure he wasn't an A2 ars@#!e?
Sure he wasn't an A2 ars@#!e?
In reply to Post #122
I started fishing when in 1998 I was 9 years old, my two uncles were passionate about fishing; one a very good match fisherman and the other an equally good fisherman who loved to even make his own maggots. I was extremely lucky to be able to learn off these two and from that I got my love for fishing.
During these years I fished a few matches and went all over the place and caught all sorts. The angling community was very different even then, you never heard a peep from anyone on the bank, most people were reserved, friendly and genuinely knowledgeable about fishing.
Fast forward to today (especially during lockdown) and my experience is very different. You can't even get peace and quiet, on Sunday I spent a day trying to fish on a pool that had your bog standard Bite Alarm-ringing, loud-mouth chav fishermen all around the pool, not one of them seemingly understands how to mute their phone, casting into my swim. Violent and thuggish behaviour and constant swearing.
Did these people not learn that sound travels quicker through water? All this obnoxious banter, music and other disturbances are turning off the fish.
What really grinds my gear is how they don't appear to love the sport. Not in the same way I do. I detest bite alarms and don't believe they should be used in the day time at all; it's just an excuse for lazy "easy" fishing, chuck out 3 rods, sit down and gorm out looking at Facebook, that's how these people like to fish.
I have opted to go for a more hybrid approach of fishing; taking on the lessons of past and present, I fish with 1 rod, a quiver feeder fishing or waggler float fishing,
I really love just sitting there analysing fish behaviour, trying to learn and expand my skills. But the art is lost on these guys, an apt metaphor would be the guy on the yacht listening to classical music vs the hatchback blasting dubstep whilst tumbling down a hill.
I started fishing when in 1998 I was 9 years old, my two uncles were passionate about fishing; one a very good match fisherman and the other an equally good fisherman who loved to even make his own maggots. I was extremely lucky to be able to learn off these two and from that I got my love for fishing.
During these years I fished a few matches and went all over the place and caught all sorts. The angling community was very different even then, you never heard a peep from anyone on the bank, most people were reserved, friendly and genuinely knowledgeable about fishing.
Fast forward to today (especially during lockdown) and my experience is very different. You can't even get peace and quiet, on Sunday I spent a day trying to fish on a pool that had your bog standard Bite Alarm-ringing, loud-mouth chav fishermen all around the pool, not one of them seemingly understands how to mute their phone, casting into my swim. Violent and thuggish behaviour and constant swearing.
Did these people not learn that sound travels quicker through water? All this obnoxious banter, music and other disturbances are turning off the fish.
What really grinds my gear is how they don't appear to love the sport. Not in the same way I do. I detest bite alarms and don't believe they should be used in the day time at all; it's just an excuse for lazy "easy" fishing, chuck out 3 rods, sit down and gorm out looking at Facebook, that's how these people like to fish.
I have opted to go for a more hybrid approach of fishing; taking on the lessons of past and present, I fish with 1 rod, a quiver feeder fishing or waggler float fishing,
I really love just sitting there analysing fish behaviour, trying to learn and expand my skills. But the art is lost on these guys, an apt metaphor would be the guy on the yacht listening to classical music vs the hatchback blasting dubstep whilst tumbling down a hill.
In reply to Post #129
Good introduction
I regularly fall out of love with carp fishing for all you've listed.
If I've nowhere inspiring to go I just don't go.
I've been doing the same as you lately and in the last seven days I've caught Gudgeon, Roach, Rudd, Common, Mirror, F1, Crucian, Ide, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Perch, Crayfish(!) and last night - for the first time in over 30 years - an EEL!
Hoping to add bleak, minnow, dace, trout & pike sometime next week.
You're definitely supposed to be enjoying it
Good introduction
I regularly fall out of love with carp fishing for all you've listed.
If I've nowhere inspiring to go I just don't go.
I've been doing the same as you lately and in the last seven days I've caught Gudgeon, Roach, Rudd, Common, Mirror, F1, Crucian, Ide, Bream, Chub, Barbel, Perch, Crayfish(!) and last night - for the first time in over 30 years - an EEL!
Hoping to add bleak, minnow, dace, trout & pike sometime next week.
You're definitely supposed to be enjoying it
In reply to Post #129
Much of what you've said rings a bell.
The past few years has seen my fishing go back to being a kid again, fishing for roach, bream, pike and chub as well as carp.
The noise on the bank on some waters really puts me off. Drunken socials, hearing both sides of a phone conversation from the other side of the 20 acre lake, music blaring.
I do leave often my buzzers on during the day, usually because when i'm carp fishing I tend to be water watching or reading a book and I need the sound to draw me out of my reverie (?spelling), but sometimes they are switched off.
Recently I saw some big barbel on a Norfolk river, which got my attention when they are so rare, so I have attempted to catch one on a few overnight trips.
Much of what you've said rings a bell.
The past few years has seen my fishing go back to being a kid again, fishing for roach, bream, pike and chub as well as carp.
The noise on the bank on some waters really puts me off. Drunken socials, hearing both sides of a phone conversation from the other side of the 20 acre lake, music blaring.
I do leave often my buzzers on during the day, usually because when i'm carp fishing I tend to be water watching or reading a book and I need the sound to draw me out of my reverie (?spelling), but sometimes they are switched off.
Recently I saw some big barbel on a Norfolk river, which got my attention when they are so rare, so I have attempted to catch one on a few overnight trips.
In reply to Post #129
What you are experiencing is becoming very, very common I'm afraid- Carp fishing has become a disguise for what many term as “Fancy Camping Trip” our a “Out Door lads night out” , fishing has just become a secondary activity.
I do all kinds of fishing from Barbel, Chub, and Pike, even Fly fishing for Roach, Trout, Grayling and Pike. But as someone on the bank said the other week “It's only Carp fishing that has become a moron magnet” It does seem that way.
But it's being stamped out around here as the Clubs and Syndicates are seriously cracking down on them, as it only takes one or two retards to keep spoiling everybody's fishing time.
What you are experiencing is becoming very, very common I'm afraid- Carp fishing has become a disguise for what many term as “Fancy Camping Trip” our a “Out Door lads night out” , fishing has just become a secondary activity.
I do all kinds of fishing from Barbel, Chub, and Pike, even Fly fishing for Roach, Trout, Grayling and Pike. But as someone on the bank said the other week “It's only Carp fishing that has become a moron magnet” It does seem that way.
But it's being stamped out around here as the Clubs and Syndicates are seriously cracking down on them, as it only takes one or two retards to keep spoiling everybody's fishing time.
My Carp rant...alarms, specifically my Fox RX+ ...who the hell decided it would be a good idea to have presets on the volume 
During the day I want them quiet as a Mouse so only I can hear them, simply because that's the way I like it. A lot of the people I used to fish with were the same, part of it also being I don't want to disturb anyone elses relaxing day with my actions, as per other folks comments.
I'd like to know what the person designing them was thinking, or the field testers, are they a reflection on the more modern angler creeping into product design. Yes I know I can have them on silent and use the variable volume of the remote, but again, was the assumption you wouldn't be fishing without a remote, if so why...bit naive to think everyone buying them is a Carp angler who in general might carry the kitchen sink.
Who in their right mind thought this was progression of a alarm
During the day I want them quiet as a Mouse so only I can hear them, simply because that's the way I like it. A lot of the people I used to fish with were the same, part of it also being I don't want to disturb anyone elses relaxing day with my actions, as per other folks comments.
I'd like to know what the person designing them was thinking, or the field testers, are they a reflection on the more modern angler creeping into product design. Yes I know I can have them on silent and use the variable volume of the remote, but again, was the assumption you wouldn't be fishing without a remote, if so why...bit naive to think everyone buying them is a Carp angler who in general might carry the kitchen sink.
Who in their right mind thought this was progression of a alarm
In reply to Post #132
Yes, I've noticed SOME large clubs in my general area, stating a zero tolerance policy to alcohol, yes, not one single can. And they are enforcing it as well.
Yes, I've noticed SOME large clubs in my general area, stating a zero tolerance policy to alcohol, yes, not one single can. And they are enforcing it as well.
In reply to Post #134
If they value their tickets they will stick to it.
Always the few p*ssheads that f*ck it up for the many sensible members.
If they value their tickets they will stick to it. Always the few p*ssheads that f*ck it up for the many sensible members.