In reply to Post #59
NO i wouldnt do the same at all ...
Im not defending mr crow at all but .. let him tell his side before getting slaughtered on the socials.
Then if guilty he deserves all he gets ..
Im just not a fan of trial by social media .........
NO i wouldnt do the same at all ...
Im not defending mr crow at all but .. let him tell his side before getting slaughtered on the socials.
Then if guilty he deserves all he gets ..
Im just not a fan of trial by social media .........
In reply to Post #51
Probably all set up for social media coverage. No such thing as bad publicity.
Probably all set up for social media coverage. No such thing as bad publicity.
In reply to Post #47
All of us have bent a rule or 2 over the years. So what its fishing .
That's not angling to me.
Breaking rules, nope, never have, never will. I go fishing to enjoy myself not to be looking over my shoulder jic someone sees I'm breaking a rule, and what does it say about me if I break the owners trust? Can a person breaking the rules take as much satisfaction from what they catch, as those that still catch withing the restrictions...well, they probably do, but I couldn't.
I would say each to their own, but I don't like cheating in any form, in life, just me, no doubt I'll get slated or black listed by those that do...oh well.
All of us have bent a rule or 2 over the years. So what its fishing .
That's not angling to me.
Breaking rules, nope, never have, never will. I go fishing to enjoy myself not to be looking over my shoulder jic someone sees I'm breaking a rule, and what does it say about me if I break the owners trust? Can a person breaking the rules take as much satisfaction from what they catch, as those that still catch withing the restrictions...well, they probably do, but I couldn't.
I would say each to their own, but I don't like cheating in any form, in life, just me, no doubt I'll get slated or black listed by those that do...oh well.
In reply to Post #61
Well judging by some comments, Crow appears to be shrugging it off as "something and nothing" which indeed it may have been, however I would suggest the state of the bloke he had an altercation with and Crow's busted lip tell another story...
Well judging by some comments, Crow appears to be shrugging it off as "something and nothing" which indeed it may have been, however I would suggest the state of the bloke he had an altercation with and Crow's busted lip tell another story...
In reply to Post #62
I think that would be Strategic Carp Fighting?
I think that would be Strategic Carp Fighting?
In reply to Post #64
100% agree
100% agree
In reply to Post #63
The whole episode is a sad indictment of modern carp fishing. Full-time anglers, thinking that they have carte blanche to fish however they want despite all their other advantages, generally speaking too many guys spending far too long on the bank instead of dealing with other things in their lives.
The whole episode is a sad indictment of modern carp fishing. Full-time anglers, thinking that they have carte blanche to fish however they want despite all their other advantages, generally speaking too many guys spending far too long on the bank instead of dealing with other things in their lives.
There has been fisty cuffs in carp fishing since the beginning, it's just more out there in the public eye with social media.
Back in the 90s I was on a well known day ticket complex (heard about it in a carpworld article by Rob Hughes and Simon Crow, funnily enough).
Someone in a corner swim cast over an anglers lines who was on the next swim round the corner, so the person there complained to the bailiff who said he would go round to have a word.
Next thing, we hear some shouting and the bailiff comes back around having punched the guy saying 'that outta sort that out, but let me know if it happens again'
Back in the 90s I was on a well known day ticket complex (heard about it in a carpworld article by Rob Hughes and Simon Crow, funnily enough).
Someone in a corner swim cast over an anglers lines who was on the next swim round the corner, so the person there complained to the bailiff who said he would go round to have a word.
Next thing, we hear some shouting and the bailiff comes back around having punched the guy saying 'that outta sort that out, but let me know if it happens again'
Credit, Totally Carp Baits, coming soon to your local Avid stockist.
Ive only seen a bit of it on FB but the page it is on is some Craig fella who seems to like giving 'named anglers' grief. He did it with Elliott Gray a few months back regarding sacking a carp.
Its all a bit sad and 20 years ago we would not have had any video footage or heard any whittling about it on FB.
ATB
Its all a bit sad and 20 years ago we would not have had any video footage or heard any whittling about it on FB.
ATB
In reply to Post #71
Tbf baiting pros (without punching them) is good sport, especially on hard lakes where everyone is blanking most of the time . . . . . a well(ish) known pro angler who still works for a well known tackle co (but shall remain nameless) was on my then 20 man syndicate in the early 00's.
He actually kept himself to himself, he rarely if ever spoke with anyone (unlike the rest of us punishers), not even to glean info / find out what was occurring or not etc. Probably because of this, and the fact that he was a pro he instantly became subject to ridicule . . . .tbf all of us, (being from a diverse set of backgrounds in life) were subject to ridicule from each other most of the time, but he was def an easy target and therefore deemed total fair game. (Being overgrown kids ourselves we were also all probably envious about his status at the time)
It became apparent that he was losing his hair rapidly (unfortunate for someone in their 20's) so we decided that we would all take daft wigs every session and don them the next time he turned up at the lake. The day came and this duly occurred . . .on his very first lap he would discover every angler sitting out in front of their bivvies, quietly watching their rods but wearing a strange, ill fitting hair piece - I actually sported an afro for reasons that escape me.
Sufficed to say he said absolutely nothing as we laughed via messages on our Nokia 5210s that must have been pinging around the entire lake. Must of hurt because we never saw him again after that weekend . . .and he certainly did not renew his ticket
Tbf baiting pros (without punching them) is good sport, especially on hard lakes where everyone is blanking most of the time . . . . . a well(ish) known pro angler who still works for a well known tackle co (but shall remain nameless) was on my then 20 man syndicate in the early 00's.
He actually kept himself to himself, he rarely if ever spoke with anyone (unlike the rest of us punishers), not even to glean info / find out what was occurring or not etc. Probably because of this, and the fact that he was a pro he instantly became subject to ridicule . . . .tbf all of us, (being from a diverse set of backgrounds in life) were subject to ridicule from each other most of the time, but he was def an easy target and therefore deemed total fair game. (Being overgrown kids ourselves we were also all probably envious about his status at the time)
It became apparent that he was losing his hair rapidly (unfortunate for someone in their 20's) so we decided that we would all take daft wigs every session and don them the next time he turned up at the lake. The day came and this duly occurred . . .on his very first lap he would discover every angler sitting out in front of their bivvies, quietly watching their rods but wearing a strange, ill fitting hair piece - I actually sported an afro for reasons that escape me.
Sufficed to say he said absolutely nothing as we laughed via messages on our Nokia 5210s that must have been pinging around the entire lake. Must of hurt because we never saw him again after that weekend . . .and he certainly did not renew his ticket
In reply to Post #72
You buggers
You buggers
I've fished on lakes with a few pro's in the past and they are either really friendly and "normal" like us all, (Tom Dove & Darrell Peck fit into this bracket) or surly arrogant tossers who look at you like you are not worth the time of day, shant name these ones but there was one in particular from Fox who was a really unlikeable chap!
In reply to Post #74
One of the names you did mention can be a right arrogant ****er,telling a young fan he was too busy to give him his autograph.He was only stood talking to a mate and just couldnt spare a couple of minutes,I think thats disgusting if im honest
One of the names you did mention can be a right arrogant ****er,telling a young fan he was too busy to give him his autograph.He was only stood talking to a mate and just couldnt spare a couple of minutes,I think thats disgusting if im honest
In reply to Post #63
I think I know who the dickhead from fox is.....a Lincolnshire chap?
I think I know who the dickhead from fox is.....a Lincolnshire chap?