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Second hand van (93 posts / 13,713 views)
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #61 13 May 2025 13:42
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I'm sure there's one out here but it's not that easy. For example, the PSA engine is used to my knowledge in Peug, Citroen, Renault, Vauxhall, Toyota, Mercedes, small commercials and it's revisions of existing engines. Eg, the 8mm chain is identified by extra bumps on the cam cover or by a code stamped on the engine.

Worth noting that there's also a lot of mention of turbo failure even when the belt hasn't gone to to the bits coming of it clogging the turbo pick up.

@ expat, I watched a video of a American chap explaining why he'd never buy Ford light pick ups again and he'd gone with Isuzu Dmax because it still has a chain.

Ford in this country only accepted there was a problem due to commercials coming back in within warranty due to high miles. A lot of private customers were left high and dry as they only cover those miles after a much longer time; ie out warranty.

If you pick up a dealer serviced van you should be o.k. You might have to factor in some major parts like timing chain/water pump etc.

I'm still running a 56 plate Berlingi with the dreaded DV6 turbo pick up issue, at some point you have to roll the dice.
framey framey
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Post #62 13 May 2025 15:26
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Spooky
I had a post about this come up on my linkdin account t this morning.
Big brother IS watching
harveyboy
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Post #63 11 Aug 2025 20:39
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Ex bt vivaro being picked up tomorrow. Going to fix my bed inside to save putting my titan up.
Any tips please to get the best I can on a medium budget....
Insulation to stop condensation rather than warmth.
Have some carpet coming.

Any other dos and don'ts would be highly appreciated. Not looking for over the top fancy.
Thanks
ip100 ip100
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Post #64 11 Aug 2025 21:51
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How old is it?
harveyboy
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Post #65 12 Aug 2025 05:21
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68 plate. Just looking for tips to turn it into a fishing van.
ip100 ip100
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Post #66 12 Aug 2025 06:47
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Fair enough. I was just going to say if you can find someone to remove the ad blue program then do it, they are a pain in the arse because they don't regen properly a lot and you get the management light come on.
I saw someone with a van who'd fitted a couple of small tarps to the rear tailgate that rolled down to form a porch which was quite smart, but I'm guessing you have normal doors on it being as it's ex bt . You could try something to create the same by fitting something across the tops of those though
Not sure you'll be able to stop condensation fully Tbh
AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #67 12 Aug 2025 20:40
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The cam chain 1.5bluhdi is not in Merc Citans, they use Renault Kangoo 1.5dci engines that have traditional cam belts.

Considering all the issues with the 1.5 bluhdi in cit/peu/Vau/Toy/Fia vans pre 2023 ( in 2023 they increased the chain size to engineer out the fault), VW have their own never ending list of engine faults so their not something I'd touch it only really leave the Renault Kangoo 1.5dci. This comes in normal and Maxi lengths - the maxi is good for a carp porter extreme power porter, no need to break it down at all and that includes having the bucket on the front.

AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #68 12 Aug 2025 20:48
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If you over service it your very unlikely to have the oil pickup issue. Oil changes every 10k max and use quality oil every time I'd say.

Pretty much most issues with engines appear due to lack off or bad maintenance although there are inherent badly designed and engineered issues on engines as well - think.. avoid German imo.



Baza1075
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Post #69 12 Aug 2025 22:32
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I have a home made fold down bed in an old shape swb 2014 vivaro/ Trafic. both the same. Best of both worlds. Can fill it up with ***** or wheel the barrow straight in. My only bit of advice would be if you are going to sleep with the door shut fit a roof vent.
g4fne g4fne
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Post #70 13 Aug 2025 19:42
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What you have to remember with the hysteria over wet belts, DPFs and anything else car or van related, is that a lot go wrong because they are not maintained correctly or serviced often enough.

My advice is ignore all the advice as its just too confusing and too contradictory.

Find the size of van you like, and search for one with as low mileage as possible .... BUT more importantly also must have a FULL SERVICE HISTORY (with receipts of work), make sure you see receipts of any belts, waterpumps etc that were due for change have been and you will reduce greatly the issues many have.

If you want avoid VAT or commercial van insurance (not being able to transfer no claims) then take a look at a Berlingo Multispace or Peugeut equivalent as some models have completely removeable seats which affectively gives you a van. I did it a few years back and worked great. If you need something bigger then look for a seated version of that vehicle (check seats are removable).

Once bought, i would change any cam belts, waterpumps, auxilery belts etc (using genuine parts) and have a full service done (including ALL filters) with proper grade oil, correct grade coolant etc .... Expect a probable circa £1k extra outlay after purchase to get these done.
karmh karmh
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Post #71 13 Aug 2025 21:42
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The insurance no claims you've mentioned isn't entirely true, it depends which insurer. Mine accepted my car insurance from.previous years for a commercial policy.
Belch Belch
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Post #72 14 Aug 2025 09:32
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That's got to be good advice - on any car for that matter let alone vans. I'd add regular 5-7k oil changes especially on high mileage diesels etc

My only regret car wise was selling our high mileage '06 plate VW Touran a few years back which stripped back and seats removed would have made an ideal carp wagon. 2.0 TDI / DSG box it was quick enough and simply would not die! The missus abused it (rarely got serviced / wheels curbed / dinks all over) it as did the kids (banana plants growing out of door pockets / headless barbies with chewing gum under the front seats) but it kept going without much of a grumble.

The mechanic that bought it for his own wife (I was dreading his inspection - he took at least an hour tugging on everything and pulling bits out of the engine) confirmed he was more than happy and that that particular engine / model / year (no DPF etc) was the 'one to have'. He paid me what I wanted in cash and drove off happy . . .
Northern-Dan Northern-Dan
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Post #73 16 Aug 2025 20:37
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I've had a few different fishing/work van setups now as well as done a couple of campers too, off top of my head for an ideal fishing van I'd say

Some form of wipe/wash down floor covering is handy-I've used that rubber coin stuff in my caddy

If carpeting I'd personally carpet only the ply removable panels (go for a dark colour) wouldn't bother with the metalwork, again I've had both (Ive actually seen a few vans with the floor carpeted!) and when loading wet smelly muddy fishing gear in the carpets not gonna stay mint for long!

Insulation wise I've always used soundproofing first-dodo mat deadn is something I've recently used followed by thermolining type insulation and then the dodo fleece roll on top of that and in the voids-don't use the rockwool type insulation!

You won't cut out condensation completely, and a roof vent mentioned above is really good advice if your planning on kipping in it regularly
harveyboy
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Post #74 16 Aug 2025 21:29
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Thanks dan some helpful information there.
Tadpole2 Tadpole2
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Post #75 4 Sep 2025 15:45
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I used to work for Jaguar Landrover back in the day and a fellow asked me if it is interesting....?? I replied ''yes, i get to make a new Discovery every day'' ......



Regards Tad.
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