In reply to Post #61
Ashmead had a bait amount rule....youve only got to look how wonderful those fish are to know they dont rely on bait
Ashmead had a bait amount rule....youve only got to look how wonderful those fish are to know they dont rely on bait
In reply to Post #59
I've found new stockies are especially fond of the pellets they are used to eating I suppose it takes them a while to change their diets. Some change more than others and at different rates.
I've found new stockies are especially fond of the pellets they are used to eating I suppose it takes them a while to change their diets. Some change more than others and at different rates.
In reply to Post #64
An industry standard has been mentioned before on here! My own carp have been fished for with mainly boilies and pellets, and they are fed pellets and boilies when nobody is there angling. And they are pristine!
An industry standard has been mentioned before on here! My own carp have been fished for with mainly boilies and pellets, and they are fed pellets and boilies when nobody is there angling. And they are pristine!
A few posts to answer so please forgive me if I miss anything:
The limit on baiting, how do you do it?
Do you say no more than 1kg of pellets a day?
Or say fish for a week and no more than 10kg of bait to be used.
Some baits, like Vitalin (note I have come away from pellets intentionally), are not going to be as damaging to the environment as pellets may be. So do you limit Vitalin as free bait as well? Or do you simply say 1kg of pellets, but no limit on bread or cereal based groundbait?
Too complicated to police I think, especially when a number of groundbaits may be pellet based.
So the limit simply becomes a certain weight, a ban on pellets, or certain types, or even purchase only from site.
I have seen waters where owners fed their fish with coarse pellets, one swim on one lake was always the best draw...
Mark makes the point about fish being brought up on pellets, and switching to a natural diet; I think Chanmenie on here would back me up, on a rich water where double figure fish were stocked last winter, the carp have already put on in cases over 2lb, previous years doubles are already over 20lb. They have switched off from pellets, straight to natural food and are growing healthily.
This is where we have confusion or differences, the amount of natural food, or anglers bait reliance to survive.
A water poor in natural food, or overstocked and bait reliant fish, the stress that creates with frequent hooking, or a water rich in natural food where pellets or boilies may be a 'treat' rather than an essential.
The limit on baiting, how do you do it?
Do you say no more than 1kg of pellets a day?
Or say fish for a week and no more than 10kg of bait to be used.
Some baits, like Vitalin (note I have come away from pellets intentionally), are not going to be as damaging to the environment as pellets may be. So do you limit Vitalin as free bait as well? Or do you simply say 1kg of pellets, but no limit on bread or cereal based groundbait?
Too complicated to police I think, especially when a number of groundbaits may be pellet based.
So the limit simply becomes a certain weight, a ban on pellets, or certain types, or even purchase only from site.
I have seen waters where owners fed their fish with coarse pellets, one swim on one lake was always the best draw...
Mark makes the point about fish being brought up on pellets, and switching to a natural diet; I think Chanmenie on here would back me up, on a rich water where double figure fish were stocked last winter, the carp have already put on in cases over 2lb, previous years doubles are already over 20lb. They have switched off from pellets, straight to natural food and are growing healthily.
This is where we have confusion or differences, the amount of natural food, or anglers bait reliance to survive.
A water poor in natural food, or overstocked and bait reliant fish, the stress that creates with frequent hooking, or a water rich in natural food where pellets or boilies may be a 'treat' rather than an essential.
In reply to Post #66
I agree on fish growth in a rich natural water with plenty of available food. May be different in a pressured water where fish are reliant on anglers feed input.Not my sort of fishing. My club does not even allow pre-baiting. From what I've seen most members don't pile the bait in whilst fishing either. Mixed fishery with plenty of big bream and tench so big beds of bait can be a magnet for the unwanted species.
I agree on fish growth in a rich natural water with plenty of available food. May be different in a pressured water where fish are reliant on anglers feed input.Not my sort of fishing. My club does not even allow pre-baiting. From what I've seen most members don't pile the bait in whilst fishing either. Mixed fishery with plenty of big bream and tench so big beds of bait can be a magnet for the unwanted species.
In reply to Post #27
I'm in complete agreement with this comment
I'm in complete agreement with this comment
God this is getting boring.
Mozzie, why can't you let a thread in the bait section run without coming on, telling everyone your mates with the forum owner then totally f**King it up with your b****cks. You don't know everything, although I'm pretty sure you think you do
I agree with what Nigel has said, 100%
Mozzie, why can't you let a thread in the bait section run without coming on, telling everyone your mates with the forum owner then totally f**King it up with your b****cks. You don't know everything, although I'm pretty sure you think you do
I agree with what Nigel has said, 100%
In reply to Post #70
He must be mates with somebody as more experienced, knowledgeable, successful and articulate bait makers were banned for a lot less than Mozzi is getting away with. Every thread trashed under the guise of giving advice, advice that is at best arbitrary; use a hydro, use a powder etc etc etc
I've stopped posting on the forum as he just started jumping on every post and picking an argument, waste of time.
He must be mates with somebody as more experienced, knowledgeable, successful and articulate bait makers were banned for a lot less than Mozzi is getting away with. Every thread trashed under the guise of giving advice, advice that is at best arbitrary; use a hydro, use a powder etc etc etc
I've stopped posting on the forum as he just started jumping on every post and picking an argument, waste of time.
Why don't you all pm him and have a conversation,no instead it's the gang bullying mentality and people pressing the little thumbs because it's something to hide behind instead of showing who you are 
In reply to Post #72
It's not gang bullying Tony, it's people getting sick and tired of the compulsive lies and nonsense that goes with it. The problem with the pm system on here is that there isn't the option to block people on it, and as he's apparently harrased a few people on here I doubt anyone would really want to engage in that way with him. I know some members have had to block him on other platforms due to this too .
It's a shame because he does actually talk some sense and give some reasonably decent advice sometimes.
It's not gang bullying Tony, it's people getting sick and tired of the compulsive lies and nonsense that goes with it. The problem with the pm system on here is that there isn't the option to block people on it, and as he's apparently harrased a few people on here I doubt anyone would really want to engage in that way with him. I know some members have had to block him on other platforms due to this too .
It's a shame because he does actually talk some sense and give some reasonably decent advice sometimes.
In reply to Post #73
I have replied to your pm,im not going say anymore on here
I have replied to your pm,im not going say anymore on here
In reply to Post #72
Gang bullying? Are you 12? People can collectively disagree with someone without it being bullying.
I had a particularly nasty pm from him last night (seems to be his MO) to which I replied. He's been banned now so it's irrelevant.
Gang bullying? Are you 12? People can collectively disagree with someone without it being bullying.
I had a particularly nasty pm from him last night (seems to be his MO) to which I replied. He's been banned now so it's irrelevant.
In reply to Post #72
And thats the reason I don't post very often, the minute two people who know each other disagree with someone, there's screams of bullying and cliques
And thats the reason I don't post very often, the minute two people who know each other disagree with someone, there's screams of bullying and cliques
In reply to Post #75
Same. He has sent me loads of pms. He's just a pain tbh
Glad he has been banned. Hopefully people might get some actual advice for the various knowledgeable practitioners on here instead of someone who reads lots of books and has a pretend bait company and claims to know everything
Same. He has sent me loads of pms. He's just a pain tbh
Glad he has been banned. Hopefully people might get some actual advice for the various knowledgeable practitioners on here instead of someone who reads lots of books and has a pretend bait company and claims to know everything