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Omc new project x (1,327 posts / 141,496 views)
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #608 20 Aug 2023 16:54
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From the guys review on the Redmire page, he's tried to break the arms,bent them all the way back on themselves.









what's worrying is the shape of them returning to after he's bent them back.
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #609 20 Aug 2023 17:26
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In reply to Post #608
Maybe baitman can verify this as only passed on to me

A question was asked on the teams call as to what the make up of the plastic is and OMC didn't know?
g4fne g4fne
Posts: 15,110
Post #610 20 Aug 2023 17:30
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In reply to Post #533
I think the reason why people “hate” him is simple. He and his former chums have Konditioned a generation and brought carp fishing from a peaceful pastime where people had respect for each other and just went about their business to a circus full of gob *****s, liars, bull****ters and people that “need” to be famous

I absolutley agree with this .... Korda marketing was awful to begin with and is partly responsible for changing carp fishing forever. Some of it bad (as described above) but also some good (product range, embryo, underwater filming, TV etc and generally dragging carp fishing kicking and screaming into a modern world!).
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With regards the "bad" (imo) i do think Korda have thankfully "softened" in recent years (especially since Ali has left) .... and for me, is much more palatable.

Ali on the otherhand seems hell bent on staying in "full on/shouty/chavvy" mode (maybe, because it was such a successful tactic for Korda?) but I do think times have changed/moved on and this along with this type of product risks his own and OMC's future in the long term.
When i heard his interview on one of the podcasts around I actually warmed to him far more in this environment. I hope he has a good support network around him, as i do think he must be under immense pressure with this.
VLT VLT
Posts: 8,995
Post #611 20 Aug 2023 17:49
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In reply to Post #610
I thought kordas marketing was always pretty balanced, they brought out thinking tackle, and then the free DVD's which were always pretty good. I thought Ali leaving to go it alone (albeit with massive funding) was pretty arrogant and I can imagine Korda were a bit pissed as well. In the same way I didn't like the effect Angling Direct had on our pastime, I don't like the direction Ali is taking, with this thing being the final straw. I will always consciously avoid OMC products as a result.

I will say again, the army of pro OMC people on his social media is absolutely mind blowing.... BUT... a massive online following does not mean massive sales. This 'all publicity is good publicity' is a complete myth. Many of these young lads just want the interaction with someone 'famous'
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #612 20 Aug 2023 20:00
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In reply to Post #602
Crystal Waters?

That actually shocks me knowing the owner and Drafty
Baitman Baitman
Posts: 5,237
Post #613 20 Aug 2023 20:42
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In reply to Post #609
Ali didn't know, but he asked the omc tech guy who was on the call and he did offer a response but I don't know the detail.
Greekskii Greekskii
Posts: 3,434
Post #614 20 Aug 2023 20:57
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Does anyone know if the EA in the Thames area have looked at this yet to see if it falls foul of the byelaw around automatic hooking devices?
I know it doesn't operate like that but it was originally marketed as pretty much that. “Hook every carp that comes near you”

A big market to lose is the Thames area!
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #615 20 Aug 2023 21:27
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In reply to Post #614
I think its been mentioned earlier in the thread and it's banned
Rarebit Rarebit
Posts: 228
Post #616 20 Aug 2023 22:46
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In reply to Post #614
I've read that the EA have said they mean devices that are made to be left unattended..but that could just be internet hearsay
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #617 20 Aug 2023 23:11
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I cannot believe how many ppl on YouTube and omc Facebook are defending this contraption
Carpbourne
Posts: 302
Post #618 20 Aug 2023 23:15
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In reply to Post #617
Sheep 🐑
Grexory Grexory
Posts: 186
Post #619 20 Aug 2023 23:53
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Haven't heard of this thing before, but my main two problems with it are these:

1: It's going to get caught in a net and cause mouth damage, those plastic clips on the side will get stuck in most mesh, which is always going to be a problem - especially with more novice anglers.

2: Presumably, for the self-hooking spring-back mechanism to work, the swivel which attaches to the hooklength, must be very firmly attached or fixed to the twig itself, (so it will work) so I don't see how it would pull away or detatch if snagged in weed.

Lastly, I don't really see what problem it solves... If you're using a well balanced, correctly tied rig presented correctly, with a sharp hook - a normal rig should work fine.
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #620 21 Aug 2023 06:28
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In reply to Post #618
Exactly that, look at the pictures of it in post 608, that is truly horrendous, snag me up.com

So much for fish safety, all these years of advocating that people must drop the lead
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #621 21 Aug 2023 06:41
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In reply to Post #620
they made alot of money advocating dropping leads
Spod Spod
Posts: 13,415
Post #622 21 Aug 2023 09:29
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In reply to Post #620
This is what interests me the most, I cannot see with a normal leadclip arrangement how the lead can possibly drop/eject...?
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