In reply to Post #48
Yes the zips were a nightmare for that. Great weight and pack down size but sadly not for me.
Yes the zips were a nightmare for that. Great weight and pack down size but sadly not for me.
In reply to Post #49
Mmm - looks like I'll be sticking with my Gardner; it too has annoying zips and a weird baffle around the shoulder area but its roomy, versatile and warm - it was the pack down/fold in the bed size I was interested in but not over comfort and my large planks
Mmm - looks like I'll be sticking with my Gardner; it too has annoying zips and a weird baffle around the shoulder area but its roomy, versatile and warm - it was the pack down/fold in the bed size I was interested in but not over comfort and my large planks
In reply to Post #43
I rate the original SP C Tech and haven't noticed any bars / pressure at 80cms width - saying that I've only owned it a couple of seasons so maybe time will tell. I've ditched the SIM as don't find I need it on this bed (compared to previous Wychwood Tactical X which I also own 2x of) as for 48hr sessions its firm which I like and comfy enough. . . . a week in France might be a different issue . . .
I rate the original SP C Tech and haven't noticed any bars / pressure at 80cms width - saying that I've only owned it a couple of seasons so maybe time will tell. I've ditched the SIM as don't find I need it on this bed (compared to previous Wychwood Tactical X which I also own 2x of) as for 48hr sessions its firm which I like and comfy enough. . . . a week in France might be a different issue . . .
In reply to Post #51
Thank you
Thank you
So my sleep system turned up today my first impressions are as follows
The sleep system is really high quality and the extra 10cm width is perfect for me as I'm 6ft 1 17 stone and have a wide shoulder to shoulder frame. My previous SPC tech standard Bedchair with a Fortis Techlite sleeping bag and SIM always felt a little cramped when I turned around and was always a bit of a struggle to zip up the bag. The MK2 extra 10cms is a winner for me personally being wider.
The sleep system has 2 layers the first layers top quarter is fleece and the bottom 3 quarters is a smooth material which I think is a nice touch. This layer can be removed
The second layer is smooth and I guess is predominantly used for summer the only down side is this layer has no baffle unlike the top layer but I guess in summer would you really need it.
The memory foam definitely adds to the comfort, however I haven't slept on it all night yet to fully give an honest view.
On the frame you have better quality tension straps which really do improve getting it as compact as possible. It also has straps for the legs to keep them in place and underneath it has an elasticated compartment to store (I guess a summer shroud) me I'll store my bivvy slippers there
That's my initial views so far..... hope it helps
The sleep system is really high quality and the extra 10cm width is perfect for me as I'm 6ft 1 17 stone and have a wide shoulder to shoulder frame. My previous SPC tech standard Bedchair with a Fortis Techlite sleeping bag and SIM always felt a little cramped when I turned around and was always a bit of a struggle to zip up the bag. The MK2 extra 10cms is a winner for me personally being wider.
The sleep system has 2 layers the first layers top quarter is fleece and the bottom 3 quarters is a smooth material which I think is a nice touch. This layer can be removed
The second layer is smooth and I guess is predominantly used for summer the only down side is this layer has no baffle unlike the top layer but I guess in summer would you really need it.
The memory foam definitely adds to the comfort, however I haven't slept on it all night yet to fully give an honest view.
On the frame you have better quality tension straps which really do improve getting it as compact as possible. It also has straps for the legs to keep them in place and underneath it has an elasticated compartment to store (I guess a summer shroud) me I'll store my bivvy slippers there
That's my initial views so far..... hope it helps
So my sleep system turned up today my first impressions are as follows
The sleep system is really high quality and the extra 10cm width is perfect for me as I'm 6ft 1 17 stone and have a wide shoulder to shoulder frame. My previous SPC tech standard Bedchair with a Fortis Techlite sleeping bag and SIM always felt a little cramped when I turned around and was always a bit of a struggle to zip up the bag. The MK2 extra 10cms is a winner for me personally being wider.
The sleep system has 2 layers the first layers top quarter is fleece and the bottom 3 quarters is a smooth material which I think is a nice touch. This layer can be removed
The second layer is smooth and I guess is predominantly used for summer the only down side is this layer has no baffle unlike the top layer but I guess in summer would you really need it.
The memory foam definitely adds to the comfort, however I haven't slept on it all night yet to fully give an honest view.
On the frame you have better quality tension straps which really do improve getting it as compact as possible. It also has straps for the legs to keep them in place and underneath it has an elasticated compartment to store (I guess a summer shroud) me I'll store my bivvy slippers there
That's my initial views so far..... hope it helps
The sleep system is really high quality and the extra 10cm width is perfect for me as I'm 6ft 1 17 stone and have a wide shoulder to shoulder frame. My previous SPC tech standard Bedchair with a Fortis Techlite sleeping bag and SIM always felt a little cramped when I turned around and was always a bit of a struggle to zip up the bag. The MK2 extra 10cms is a winner for me personally being wider.
The sleep system has 2 layers the first layers top quarter is fleece and the bottom 3 quarters is a smooth material which I think is a nice touch. This layer can be removed
The second layer is smooth and I guess is predominantly used for summer the only down side is this layer has no baffle unlike the top layer but I guess in summer would you really need it.
The memory foam definitely adds to the comfort, however I haven't slept on it all night yet to fully give an honest view.
On the frame you have better quality tension straps which really do improve getting it as compact as possible. It also has straps for the legs to keep them in place and underneath it has an elasticated compartment to store (I guess a summer shroud) me I'll store my bivvy slippers there
That's my initial views so far..... hope it helps
In reply to Post #54
Forgot to mention there is a bag provided to put the top layer cover in for storage.... Again a nice touch
Forgot to mention there is a bag provided to put the top layer cover in for storage.... Again a nice touch
In reply to Post #50
I removed the bottom shoulder baffle from mine, unpicked the end stitching and pulled out the filling. Much better.
I removed the bottom shoulder baffle from mine, unpicked the end stitching and pulled out the filling. Much better.
In reply to Post #54
Hi mate, any chance of a update and your thoughts please?
Hi mate, any chance of a update and your thoughts please?
In reply to Post #57
I've been looking at the sleep system also . As I've never had memory foam I was wondering if it was hot to sleep on in the summer , thanks.
I've been looking at the sleep system also . As I've never had memory foam I was wondering if it was hot to sleep on in the summer , thanks.
In reply to Post #58
We have a **** off expensive memory foam bed, never any issues in the summer
Memory Foam is a lot different today to when it came out, today the heat BS is just that today, wasn't 20 years ago though.
We have a **** off expensive memory foam bed, never any issues in the summer
Memory Foam is a lot different today to when it came out, today the heat BS is just that today, wasn't 20 years ago though.
Resurrecting an old thread.. Does the new sleep system have any more foot room than the mk1?
I have size 12 feet and occasionally sleep on my back when fishing and from memory the bag was always a little tight?
Also just to confirm you can fully remove the top layer(s) and just have it with the memory foam bottom and thin 2 season top layer?
I only ever used the actual sleep system maybe 3 times, I found it way too hot and there was not a layer to remove. Also found the baffle a bit thick and annoying!
I have size 12 feet and occasionally sleep on my back when fishing and from memory the bag was always a little tight?
Also just to confirm you can fully remove the top layer(s) and just have it with the memory foam bottom and thin 2 season top layer?
I only ever used the actual sleep system maybe 3 times, I found it way too hot and there was not a layer to remove. Also found the baffle a bit thick and annoying!
In reply to Post #60
Haven't ever used a sleep system but my fear is also one of 'constriction' especially if you are tall / have big planks etc and are used to a bigger / more roomy bag. . .only way is to try before you buy I suppose . . .also dont like fleece lining in bags - smooth synthetic much more comfy as it doesn't grab you if you switch from side to back sleeping etc
Haven't ever used a sleep system but my fear is also one of 'constriction' especially if you are tall / have big planks etc and are used to a bigger / more roomy bag. . .only way is to try before you buy I suppose . . .also dont like fleece lining in bags - smooth synthetic much more comfy as it doesn't grab you if you switch from side to back sleeping etc
Saw that one is fleece and one is smooth? Which seemed odd.
There's no tackle shops anywhere near me that stock them unfortunately, West Sussex.
There's no tackle shops anywhere near me that stock them unfortunately, West Sussex.
In reply to Post #62
I have the Wideboy version. The main bag is smooth and although I only have size 10 feet there is plenty of room by my feet. Cant see size 12 being a problem.
That being said I also dont have my bags zipped up both sides. they are over sized and cover your body without it zipped closed which gives additional space. Great bed though. Even with memory foam on the stiff side which I like. I am 21 stone and it doesnt sag at all unlike my old nash MF60 Wideboy. The bag is also a lot warmer than the 5 season system on the Nash and the quality cant be compared. My nash chair the arms split as made out of thin metal badly welded. I can jump on the Solar and it wont budge an inch
I have the Wideboy version. The main bag is smooth and although I only have size 10 feet there is plenty of room by my feet. Cant see size 12 being a problem.
That being said I also dont have my bags zipped up both sides. they are over sized and cover your body without it zipped closed which gives additional space. Great bed though. Even with memory foam on the stiff side which I like. I am 21 stone and it doesnt sag at all unlike my old nash MF60 Wideboy. The bag is also a lot warmer than the 5 season system on the Nash and the quality cant be compared. My nash chair the arms split as made out of thin metal badly welded. I can jump on the Solar and it wont budge an inch