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Raw Sewage in our rivers and sea again? River carp (136 posts / 10,770 views)
sundance sundance
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Post #46 10 Nov 2021 07:18
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Its off the front pages. They are all about Govt corruption now.
So they go ahead. And with an 80 seat majority they can do
What they like.
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #47 10 Nov 2021 11:34
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The Government does not represent the people of this country? Unbelievable! OFWAT wrote to every household to ask them how much extra would they would be willing to pay in order to force the Utilities to provide extra tanking to accommodate rain water in combined sewers. The answer, a resounding sweat FA.
sundance sundance
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Post #48 10 Nov 2021 17:56
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Did they? Any links to that? Cant find it
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #49 10 Nov 2021 20:31
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Every household had one. It was part of the AMP 3 programme I recall.
Halfcentury
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Post #50 10 Nov 2021 21:04
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They don't need to increase costs. These companies are owned by foreign governments and private investment companies all over the world and because the income is guaranteed they have been able to borrow against them and now have a collective debt of 50 billion pounds. Yet they still pay big bonuses and big dividends to investors. Its time the shareholders were made to pay to maintain the companies by accepting a significant reduction in income.
sundance sundance
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Post #51 10 Nov 2021 22:49
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Can't find a single reference to it on Google.
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #52 11 Nov 2021 10:42
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Ofwat consult every week. This was during the AMP3 programme in the run up to AMP4.

I was heavily involved in the legality of CSO 'spills' in rivers. Discharges were being allowed when (6x dry weather flow) combined levels in the sewer were caused by 'storms' under the provision that the receiving water body would.also be flooding and thereby dilute the effluent. I stood again the policy at the time while looking after spring fed rivers which take three days to rise after rain. I won a civil action for a pollution caused by a CSO on a limestone river and lobbied hard.

The greatest problem for me was this wretched Ofwat consultation which was held up against my claims, because the public would only pay 1p extra a week on their water bills to see the CSO problem resolved.

In the end I managed to force a local sewage station to invest £12.5m to upgrade under AMP5 and prevent 'spills' but achieved nothing nationally. I only did this through detailed benthic invert population studies which proved reduced ecological conditions below the discharge.

I do hope this latest media focus will.cause people to.want to pay to invest in clean rivers..
sundance sundance
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Post #53 11 Nov 2021 17:13
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By consultation you mean they write to every customer in the uk and ask them if theynare willing to,pay more
?
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #54 11 Nov 2021 17:39
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The Regulator consults in loads of different ways. Just visit their website. Some are industry consultations others are via more wider groups but occasionally they consult every household. This was the case in question. I was told they should consult all consumers at the beginning of every asset management plan.
sundance sundance
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Post #55 13 Nov 2021 08:43
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Well quite. But when you said this:

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The Government does not represent the people of this country? Unbelievable! OFWAT wrote to every household to ask them how much extra would they would be willing to pay in order to force the Utilities to provide extra tanking to accommodate rain water in combined sewers. The answer, a resounding sweat FA.


I can't find any reference to this letter at all. You would think it would also be a massive story. I mean a letter to every household. That's more than we have even done under Covid.

It's as big as the referendum really. If this happened I would expect to find some evidence of it. And why arent the Tory spin doctors using it.?
bluebeat13
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Post #56 13 Nov 2021 12:26
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It didn't happen, or we would have had the letter.
mark1009
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Post #57 13 Nov 2021 13:20
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I didn't receive a letter from O F W A T. Can someone explain what cos means and amp3 and 4.Thanks.
sundance sundance
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Post #58 18 Jan 2023 20:04
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Anglian Water has been fined £510k after allowing 6m litres of raw sewage to be discharged into the Great River Ouse killing 5,000 fish including brown trout, chub and pike.
Last year the firm made £93.6m profit & its 2 executive directors were paid £919k and £531k
mal mal
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Post #59 18 Jan 2023 20:41
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And yet otters are the problem....





wandle1 wandle1
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Post #60 18 Jan 2023 21:52
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Saputo is a 48 billion dollar company ..

Saputo ,Dairy crest ,based on the old MMB site on Davidstow Moor, fined a paltry 1.5million quid ,for completely destroying the ecosystem of the famous River Inny,on the upper reaches..

They don't care,peanuts,loose change to a company of that stature, their mantra ,locally us to champion the environment..

Yeah right...!!!!

I stopped buying their products ,even though Cathedral city is nice..
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