In reply to Post #43
Exactly. Its been siad , many, many times.

In reply to Post #43
As I've said unless they're N95 rated they are un affective!! Which seems to be the case looking at the massive increase in infection rates higher than they were before masks were compulsory 🤔

In reply to Post #43
If they cough or sneeze and are wearing a mask the mask stops the expelling of viral particles into the air. It does NOT stop you breathing them in. As others have said, damp aerosol viral particles can pass through a mask, unless NBC or N95 rated. A wet facemask, worn for more than 30 minutes or so won't stop viral particles getting into the air when you sneeze or cough.
In the case of a cough or sneeze, covering your face with a tissue or handkerchief does exactly the same, prevents viral particles getting into the air.

Then as you touch your facemask to take it off, you get any virus on your hands.

In reply to Post #47
Your statement is incorrect.

Respirators/face coverings reduce their particulate arrestance capabilities when going down the scale of RPE.

A powered respirator (positively pressured hood) will be the most effective, then a P3 type mask (Half face or full face), then P2/N95.

Surgical style masks/face coverings still offer a lower level of protection, but are still more effective than not wearing one.

Any type of face covering will help eliminate or at least reduce the amount of exposure to pathogens. Remember that they are not going to be challenged with high concentrations, which is how RPE is graded.

I've worked in controlled environments and containment facilities for many years - and yes i do wear a face covering.

Saw this on FB, think it's fitting:

Winter coats and hats are 4 SHEEP! LOL! Did the research, found out 1500/year die from hypothermia in US. That's 0.0005% of population. They live in fear of something 99.9995% of people won't die from. Gets better, hypothermia deaths they were wearing coats and hats, still died! Coats don't work!

In reply to Post #50

The thing with masks is quite a lot of people think they wear one to protect themselves. They are not for that, they are to protect others. But because it doesnt protect the individual wearing it that is seen as valid excuse for not wearing one or as an appropriate argument against wearing them. Which it isn't BTW.

Some anglers are now on for round 2 of making the rest of us look like mugs whining about whether they can go fishing or not, I'm alright Jack etc etc etc, essential travel blah blah.

Lack of personal responsibility has to got us all to this stage again, and now the warm summer temps have gone this 2nd wave will be worse.

Some many internet virologists these days, they were all politics professors about 12 months ago.

In reply to Post #52
"Some many internet virologists these days, they were all politics professors about 12 months ago"

That reminded me of something i saw on FB at the start of all this, which i have managed to find - still makes me smile:-


Decided not to listen to government advice or 111, because Sandra on Facebook who lives next door turns out to be a microbiologist, national economical expert, housing advisor, mortgage guru, GP and national pandemic specialist .... who'd have thought eh? Only last week she was a full time mummy selling bath bombs on Facebook! ... goes to show,
never judge a book by its cover

In reply to Post #49
Obviously you're one of these online experts you're referring to

Respirators, also called N95 masks, are designed to protect the wearer from small particles in the air, like viruses. They're certified by the CDC and National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.

The name comes from the fact that they can filter 95 percentTrusted Source of airborne particles, according to the CDC. N95 masks are also often used when painting or handling potentially toxic materials.

Respirators are selected to fit your face. They must form a perfect seal so no gaps allow in airborne viruses. Healthcare workers use them to protect against airborne infectious diseases, such as tuberculosis and anthrax.

Unlike regular face masks, respirators protect against both large and small particles.

Overall, respirators are considered much more effective at preventing the flu virus than regular face masks.

In reply to Post #54
I would never refer to myself as an expert, i just use respirators on a daily basis. You're correct, for the mask to work efficiently and effectively you need to be face fit tested for that type of mask - but that is for it to work 100%. If you are not face fit tested, it still works, but at a reduced efficiency - This doesn't mean that it is totally ineffective as you refer to in your earlier post.

Any face covering will offer a level of protection against a pathogen with aerosol dispersion - what that level is will be down to the level of filtration -

All done without the assistance of Google.

I'm just trying to get across that ANY face covering, is better than no face covering.

In reply to Post #55
Exactly and combine the covering with social distancing.

In reply to Post #1
I say fair play to the guys that have been Furloughed - get out there lads and enjoy your fishing.

Makes me laugh hearing the so called angling celebrities' moaning about guys on Furlough and how they can't get swims "rocking" anymore. Unlucky and suck it up, welcome to the real world of the working man that has never had the time before to live in a tent for weeks and umpteen years.

Funny how we now see the lack of celebrities' with trophy shots now they are on an even keel with the average working bloke and all of a sudden it becomes noticeable that time was their biggest advantage, not the bull**** that is wheeled out that they spotted a "bubbler" at 200 wraps and got into the "zone".....

Best of luck and be lucky.

In reply to Post #57
Cracking post

In reply to Post #57


Lot of truth in that. It's the campers that catch the fish

Can't catch them at work or doing family things