In reply to Post #29
I cant get those guides below 16ml and a 40ml set would add £206 to a rod !!!!
I cant get those guides below 16ml and a 40ml set would add £206 to a rod !!!!
In reply to Post #28
What sort of effect would this style of ringing have on a stiffer blank, say Free Spirit Hi S Ive ER? i was thinking to get mine rebuilt with a 40 to 12mm set as I'm also not keen on the massive 50mm rings.
My basic understanding is that the line should pass through the larger rings with less friction, if this is the case why don't beach/surf casters use 50s? they seem to mostly be 30s on the butt section. We even use similar reels like the Baisas, tournaments, ultegras etc so spool size and line loops don't really come into it.
Apologies if this is covering basics!
What sort of effect would this style of ringing have on a stiffer blank, say Free Spirit Hi S Ive ER? i was thinking to get mine rebuilt with a 40 to 12mm set as I'm also not keen on the massive 50mm rings.
My basic understanding is that the line should pass through the larger rings with less friction, if this is the case why don't beach/surf casters use 50s? they seem to mostly be 30s on the butt section. We even use similar reels like the Baisas, tournaments, ultegras etc so spool size and line loops don't really come into it.
Apologies if this is covering basics!
In reply to Post #32
Beachcasters are rung according to whether a fixed spool or multiplier are going to be used.
Beachcasters are rung according to whether a fixed spool or multiplier are going to be used.
In reply to Post #32
Have a look at fuji,s post Theory New Guide Concept it will put you in the picture and dispell the myth regarding larger guides = distance .
Have a look at fuji,s post Theory New Guide Concept it will put you in the picture and dispell the myth regarding larger guides = distance .
In reply to Post #32
It would have little to no affect on stiffer rods, 4 or 5lb ballista blanks were regularly fitted with 30 & 40mm ringing 'back in the day' as were others like my Greys FX4.
50mm ringing is a modern trend, it's simply that with little proven evidence of actually making any difference. What little difference it might make is only really discernable in the hands of casters making records where a meter or 2 might make a difference, the vast majority of anglers even with lessons are not capable of that. It does however allow the tackle companies to play to your insecurities that you might not be able to reach the fish but your neighbours with 50's fitted will.
Another reason quoted was larger spools means the line comes off in larger loops which need to straighten out before hitting the 1st ring, sounds feasible but again little proof.
Quite interested in what Jeffire has posted, off for a nosey.
It would have little to no affect on stiffer rods, 4 or 5lb ballista blanks were regularly fitted with 30 & 40mm ringing 'back in the day' as were others like my Greys FX4.
50mm ringing is a modern trend, it's simply that with little proven evidence of actually making any difference. What little difference it might make is only really discernable in the hands of casters making records where a meter or 2 might make a difference, the vast majority of anglers even with lessons are not capable of that. It does however allow the tackle companies to play to your insecurities that you might not be able to reach the fish but your neighbours with 50's fitted will.
Another reason quoted was larger spools means the line comes off in larger loops which need to straighten out before hitting the 1st ring, sounds feasible but again little proof.
Quite interested in what Jeffire has posted, off for a nosey.
In reply to Post #33
Correct along with lure rods . When i first started targeting carp i and a few others were using multipliers on the big cheshire meres.
Correct along with lure rods . When i first started targeting carp i and a few others were using multipliers on the big cheshire meres.
In reply to Post #33
Most beach casters are rung hibrid nowadays for either fixed spool or multiplier.
Most beach casters are rung hibrid nowadays for either fixed spool or multiplier.
In reply to Post #31
Century may be able to supply, I've got a few beach casters with them rung 40mm to 10mm. Failing that I've heard good thing about the atlas deep draw guides.
Century may be able to supply, I've got a few beach casters with them rung 40mm to 10mm. Failing that I've heard good thing about the atlas deep draw guides.
All this talk about 50mm not adding distance. Don't anyone believe that would still be the case if you was using a thick fluorocarbon mainline on a wide spooled big pit like an xt10000? I think it does. Have not “scientifically”tested this but sure that it would effect distance in this instance. Maybe not if using a lighter mono/braid with a reel with a narrower spool like that is on the Daiwa tournies
In reply to Post #39
Why would you use a thick diameter fluorocarbon on a large diameter spool if you were fishing at distance.
Why would you use a thick diameter fluorocarbon on a large diameter spool if you were fishing at distance.
In reply to Post #40
Well I for one have tried Flouro on ss2600 and my god it's shocking, you need as bigger spool as possible (imo) to get Flouro to behave. I have recently gone back to Flouro and it behaves reasonably well on a 5000t but wouldn't do anywhere near any spool smaller.
Well I for one have tried Flouro on ss2600 and my god it's shocking, you need as bigger spool as possible (imo) to get Flouro to behave. I have recently gone back to Flouro and it behaves reasonably well on a 5000t but wouldn't do anywhere near any spool smaller.
In reply to Post #40
I suppose the better question would be why would you not?
I suppose the better question would be why would you not?
In reply to Post #42
Only guessing but maybe wondering why using a thick flouro for casting at range when flouro is far from the best casting wise.
I think i get your original point again guessing that a lot of people have the view that thick flouros and heavy mono's behave better with 50's particularly when using wide spool reels?
Only guessing but maybe wondering why using a thick flouro for casting at range when flouro is far from the best casting wise.
I think i get your original point again guessing that a lot of people have the view that thick flouros and heavy mono's behave better with 50's particularly when using wide spool reels?
In reply to Post #42
Because distance casting most are using as thin a line as possible to increase distance plus the fact that flouro is heavier than mono again making it a poor choice.
Because distance casting most are using as thin a line as possible to increase distance plus the fact that flouro is heavier than mono again making it a poor choice.
In reply to Post #44
Surely if you choose to use fluorocarbon for whatever reason, you would want to be able to cast it as far as possible. Hence large spool, heavy lead, and therefore high test curve rod
Surely if you choose to use fluorocarbon for whatever reason, you would want to be able to cast it as far as possible. Hence large spool, heavy lead, and therefore high test curve rod