In reply to Post #30
You've only got to look at some of the bivvies and the kitchen sinks that are brought with them. The vast majority on the vast majority of waters are there for a good time, not for a good result. Their expectations should reflect that.
The exact reason I try to avoid busy waters like the plague. You can never fish where you want to. It's like buying a ticket and dropping in an open hole, it's a lottery
To be fair, when camping on these waters, like you say, I can understand the comfort thing, why not, it's about enjoying yourself at the end of the day
A fish or two MAY just come your way
You've only got to look at some of the bivvies and the kitchen sinks that are brought with them. The vast majority on the vast majority of waters are there for a good time, not for a good result. Their expectations should reflect that.
The exact reason I try to avoid busy waters like the plague. You can never fish where you want to. It's like buying a ticket and dropping in an open hole, it's a lottery
To be fair, when camping on these waters, like you say, I can understand the comfort thing, why not, it's about enjoying yourself at the end of the day
A fish or two MAY just come your way
In reply to Post #28
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In reply to Post #1
I've lived and fished ‘oop north most of my life....I have ventured south on occasion, and believe me most of the named southern anglers get themselves a name by being able to fish venues that actually contain newsworthy fish... every dog as it's day and all that... Even going back to the late 80's the likes of the Rotherham dirty dozen ruled wraysbury etc
Sure nowadays having the social media persona helps greatly but I'd put a lot of northerners well above names down south but they have to stay under the radar and away from the press as the waters that contain anything of note need to kept secret from the crowds etc.
You've got to be good up here to catch as the waters are frozen 10 months if the year....😉
I've lived and fished ‘oop north most of my life....I have ventured south on occasion, and believe me most of the named southern anglers get themselves a name by being able to fish venues that actually contain newsworthy fish... every dog as it's day and all that... Even going back to the late 80's the likes of the Rotherham dirty dozen ruled wraysbury etc
Sure nowadays having the social media persona helps greatly but I'd put a lot of northerners well above names down south but they have to stay under the radar and away from the press as the waters that contain anything of note need to kept secret from the crowds etc.
You've got to be good up here to catch as the waters are frozen 10 months if the year....😉
In reply to Post #30
Great post
Great post
In reply to Post #33
Great post
You are putting your head on the block here mate
Next you will be telling us that Bill Cotham drove down all the way down from Scotland to photograph Mary
That's how big things were, exceptional and they meant something, real!!!
When things REALLY happened, incredible
Great post
You are putting your head on the block here mate
Next you will be telling us that Bill Cotham drove down all the way down from Scotland to photograph Mary
That's how big things were, exceptional and they meant something, real!!!
When things REALLY happened, incredible
In reply to Post #35
The thing is I fished a local club match lake in the mid 80's, beautiful little place maybe 8 carp to upper double, chock full of weed etc, it's was left alone by the club so we ran it as we wanted to.... 3 rods instead of two, nights on a no night water, you get the jist. We loved the place and even though the carp were small they were tricky to put on the bank. Now I'm not saying we invented the method but we started bombing rigs into holes in the weed and started losing fish with the lead snagging, so we started leaving the tag end long on the hooklength swivel (reel side) and put the lead on the tag end and gently nipped on a lead shot and voila a drop off lead system.
Same water again bearing in mind there was only 6 or 7 of us fishing it, one guy Big Nige or Elmo as was his nickname came up with the idea of thick mono hooklinks to push the bait away from the lead, skip forward to last year Lewis Read's cypography interview and lewlew mentioned the inspiration they gained ....Northern Nige (Elmo) when he and Terry were coming up with the HSR.... Nige was the only northerner on the Car park at the time and caught Heather at 46 plus.
The thing is I fished a local club match lake in the mid 80's, beautiful little place maybe 8 carp to upper double, chock full of weed etc, it's was left alone by the club so we ran it as we wanted to.... 3 rods instead of two, nights on a no night water, you get the jist. We loved the place and even though the carp were small they were tricky to put on the bank. Now I'm not saying we invented the method but we started bombing rigs into holes in the weed and started losing fish with the lead snagging, so we started leaving the tag end long on the hooklength swivel (reel side) and put the lead on the tag end and gently nipped on a lead shot and voila a drop off lead system.
Same water again bearing in mind there was only 6 or 7 of us fishing it, one guy Big Nige or Elmo as was his nickname came up with the idea of thick mono hooklinks to push the bait away from the lead, skip forward to last year Lewis Read's cypography interview and lewlew mentioned the inspiration they gained ....Northern Nige (Elmo) when he and Terry were coming up with the HSR.... Nige was the only northerner on the Car park at the time and caught Heather at 46 plus.
In reply to Post #36
Brilliant
Real life, not fantasy
Brilliant
Real life, not fantasy
In reply to Post #28
In reply to Post #35
Got to be a pain in the ass taking your sister with you though 🤓
Got to be a pain in the ass taking your sister with you though 🤓
In reply to Post #39
**** off ****
**** off ****
In reply to Post #24
Well said!
I have always said i'm envious of people's time, not their captures...
Well said!
I have always said i'm envious of people's time, not their captures...
Just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't automatically make you good at it.
Anyone can turn up to a lake and camp if they have the time and money. Eventually they'll be in the right place at the right time.
Lots of people spend years on the bank so they can have a photo album and be in their eyes well known in the carp fishing world, Sad really.
Anyone can turn up to a lake and camp if they have the time and money. Eventually they'll be in the right place at the right time.
Lots of people spend years on the bank so they can have a photo album and be in their eyes well known in the carp fishing world, Sad really.
There are some named anglers who are using time as a 'substitute' for skill, and others who have that natural skill and don't need to use time.
However as has been said through this thread, by published results it is difficult to tell who is who, unless you know one on your water.
There are other factors, like whether the water is 'overstocked'. I'm sure it is easier to catch most fish from an overstocked lake than a water full of naturals. I don't agree that free bait is not an advantage. If you got free bait, and piled it in, to the extent that the carp were eating it because there was so much, and it was more than the natural food, or other baits, then I reckon it is definitely an advantage.
Most of us can't afford say £150 a week to put in as freebies! Our bait limit is probably £10.
That approach might well work on a natural water or an overstocked venue, the fish are able to eat a decent food without getting caught by others than the person who can afford to pile it in.
I think there are two names who are head and shoulders above most other anglers, still, after all these years; Messrs Hearn and Lane. I have seen Dave Lane at work, I thought I could walk a water looking for fish, he makes my efforts look puny. Up and down trees, plotting routes, watching the fish move from one end of the lake to the other, then getting his gear in place for when they arrive.
Then we have the 'quiet' names who aren't so interested in being high profile, some who are possibly on the edge of publicity, but not quite catching enough, and then some into self-publicity.
However as has been said through this thread, by published results it is difficult to tell who is who, unless you know one on your water.
There are other factors, like whether the water is 'overstocked'. I'm sure it is easier to catch most fish from an overstocked lake than a water full of naturals. I don't agree that free bait is not an advantage. If you got free bait, and piled it in, to the extent that the carp were eating it because there was so much, and it was more than the natural food, or other baits, then I reckon it is definitely an advantage.
Most of us can't afford say £150 a week to put in as freebies! Our bait limit is probably £10.
That approach might well work on a natural water or an overstocked venue, the fish are able to eat a decent food without getting caught by others than the person who can afford to pile it in.
I think there are two names who are head and shoulders above most other anglers, still, after all these years; Messrs Hearn and Lane. I have seen Dave Lane at work, I thought I could walk a water looking for fish, he makes my efforts look puny. Up and down trees, plotting routes, watching the fish move from one end of the lake to the other, then getting his gear in place for when they arrive.
Then we have the 'quiet' names who aren't so interested in being high profile, some who are possibly on the edge of publicity, but not quite catching enough, and then some into self-publicity.
We're all just blokes who go fishing. Some for the relaxation, some for glory and some just hate the wife
There are people with a better understanding of fish behaviour, those who can cast to the next postcode, have the energy to spend all day and night looking for an opportunity, can afford higher priced tickets that offer better rewards and have more spare time on their hands.
Very few are actually ‘better' than anybody else, but some make big sacrifices in life for the sake of fishing and deserve at least some recognition for going without a lot that we take for granted.
A good album won't comfort you on your death bed
There are people with a better understanding of fish behaviour, those who can cast to the next postcode, have the energy to spend all day and night looking for an opportunity, can afford higher priced tickets that offer better rewards and have more spare time on their hands.
Very few are actually ‘better' than anybody else, but some make big sacrifices in life for the sake of fishing and deserve at least some recognition for going without a lot that we take for granted.
A good album won't comfort you on your death bed
I can't really think of any activity or sport or pastime that doesn't require time to become successful at professionally.
Snooker players practise for 8 hours everyday. Tennis players train 7 days a week. and so on and so on. Golf players will be on the tee everyday.
But they are only known for their tournament wins, they spend years prepping for that moment. The time when the photos are taken and they get the 10 mins of elation as they lift their trophy. They won't ever get accused of "boring out" a win though....
The full time angler is doing the same in a roundabout way, putting in countless hours for that 10 mins of the cloud 9 feeling and a trophy shot.
I don't think any average anglers likes having full timers on their water. I know I don't. It's not jealousy more "f*ck me he's in that swim again" everytime you go fishing.
Snooker players practise for 8 hours everyday. Tennis players train 7 days a week. and so on and so on. Golf players will be on the tee everyday.
But they are only known for their tournament wins, they spend years prepping for that moment. The time when the photos are taken and they get the 10 mins of elation as they lift their trophy. They won't ever get accused of "boring out" a win though....
The full time angler is doing the same in a roundabout way, putting in countless hours for that 10 mins of the cloud 9 feeling and a trophy shot.
I don't think any average anglers likes having full timers on their water. I know I don't. It's not jealousy more "f*ck me he's in that swim again" everytime you go fishing.