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Korda Underwater. (109 posts / 17,453 views)
finbob finbob
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Post #17 7 Aug 2024 08:39
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I actually enjoyed the video but to claim that is a bit titish especially as show has Richie Mac on!
Stokesy is a far better guest than the others and seems a good lad who gets genuinely excited about his fishing- just how it should be and not a punisher making himself look a goose for camera's sake!
0nslow 0nslow
Posts: 1,616
Post #18 7 Aug 2024 08:53
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Last one of the Underwater series I watched was when hooky DVD's off eBay were a thing 😂😂.

This one I really enjoyed for what it was, decent footage, camaraderie and made me think about my own fishing a little bit. They do make me want to go fishing too which can only be a good thing.

My fat fingers and simple mind prevent me from tieing up complex rigs, but there are plenty which will, so hopefully means these free films will continue to be made available to everyone 👍.

Anything else on YouTube similar to these worth watching because I'm very out of touch with this digital stuff.
kells kells
Posts: 6,017
Post #19 7 Aug 2024 09:49
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Because Terry Hearn says it does. That's all you need to know Leroy..

That rig is credited to Terry. But was actually shown to him by Joe Morgan.
finbob finbob
Posts: 3,466
Post #20 7 Aug 2024 10:14
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Was interesting with such clear footage and the way they were picking up rigs , moving them and the bait movement. Food for thought or more head fu**ery lol
esoxlucious esoxlucious
Posts: 1,824
Post #21 7 Aug 2024 12:35
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How much better are these videos without the monster ego hamidi in them
finbob finbob
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Post #22 7 Aug 2024 13:38
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Really miss someone filling their mouth full of maggots or tugging off an ex footy player/minor celeb
mark1009
Posts: 4,738
Post #23 7 Aug 2024 14:26
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I think they are so obsessed with the fact that the rig needs to re- set, they forget that the point is to hook the fish first time it picks up the bait. The fish seem to have sussed stiff rigs, any fish that approached from the opposite end to the lead spat it out , one that approached from the lead end got hooked. Should have tried an old fashioned confidence rig, braid perhaps with a small stick to help avoid tangles and disguise bait, especially with the spread baiting they were doing. I guess one spool of braid is not going to generate as much profit as all the bits for a spinner rig.
Edit. Forgot to add, even more so in this particular situation as no fish were present other than carp.
alemac1 alemac1
Posts: 201
Post #24 7 Aug 2024 14:44
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skipped through the bits you didn't need, and watched the bits you did.

biggest thing that sold out for me was angle of approach. any time the fish came "via the lead end" as it were, they got hooked as the hook link was already in that tightened position as such, perhaps I am wording that poorly... also, turning after sucking the rig in resulted in a hookup.

but every time they approached from the "bait end" they were able to blow the rig back out. stiff or otherwise.

so for me, the angle at which they come onto the bait played more of a part Thant he materials in use.
framey framey
Posts: 5,319
Post #25 7 Aug 2024 15:27
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Perhaps they needed to use the tragic twig..
I haven't watched the film
mark1009
Posts: 4,738
Post #26 7 Aug 2024 15:34
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You can achieve the same effect as the shot on the hair by using a bottom bait on a long hair,exiting near the bend. Parrot rig comes to mind. Nothing new in this game, unless your in the business of selling very expensive bits of plastic and steel.
christian
Posts: 1,377
Post #27 7 Aug 2024 16:44
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Yes agree, I would have liked to have seen how a braided rig with a longer hair would have performed, I would definitely have tried a kd rig in the circumstances they were in.

I would also have liked to have seen a variation of baiting strategy, one with fewer but bigger baits would have been interesting. It might have bought fewer fish into the zone but I think it would have caught just as many fish.
InTheMargin
Posts: 451
Post #28 7 Aug 2024 17:54
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In reply to Post #27
Thats the thing, they have a perfect opportunity to try an array of different rigs, yet they just tweak the same rig with a stiff boom etc.

PVA bags, braided hooklinks, ronnies etc. Lets see them in action. I know they are pressed for time but these underwater films just seem to be films where someomes using a camera to help catch carp rather than use it to study how different rigs perform.

Missing a trick big time, either that or they are worried a braided knottless knot rig will out perform the all singing all dancing stiff boomed, supple hair, flippa whiz bang fandango rig with 30 different components to it.
HarrisonCarp HarrisonCarp
Posts: 387
Post #29 7 Aug 2024 18:40
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Think you hit the nail on the head.

People see a rig working really well, they tent to want to try it and discover it takes several components to make only bought from that one brand 🤷‍♂️

Can't be outdone by a short length of braid and a knotless knot 🤣
Innocenti Innocenti
Posts: 519
Post #30 7 Aug 2024 19:37
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In reply to Post #24
Someone give Danny a shake to waken him up!
Why he insists on using a boilie/snowman rig when it's blatantly obvious that the fish in his swim are feeding on corn is beyond me.Has done it in a few of his videos.
Oh! 4lb t.c rods?
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
Posts: 5,282
Post #31 7 Aug 2024 19:58
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They completely dismissed the pop up after about five minutes as Danny has disappeared down a rabbit hole of saying if its only a tiny bit off the bottom it gets ignored. Thats patently horse5h1t as I think we can all remember how many carp have been caught on chods and hinge stiff rigs over the years. In fact on one of the under waters when they were struggling, didnt Elliot put out a stiff hinge and hook one straight away?

Also they seemed genuinely surprised that a tiny 10mm hookbait or half a wafter was being easily ejected all the time. Why on earth didnt they put on a 16 or even 18mm hookbait. Instead of getting 14 pick ups and getting done 13 times. They might have only got two or three pick ups but converted all of them. Albert Einstein said something like the definition of madness is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

The trouble is I think Danny is constantly driven to change things all the time. Trying to evolve for the sake of it, then just going round and round in circles and disappearing up his own backside in the process. They mock Dovey cos all he ever does is chuck out pineapple pop ups, but he does that for a reason, he consistently catches big fish.

Im quite old now, the first ever korda stuff i watched was back in the day when you had to buy double VHS tapes and I bought them all, then on to the free DVDs youd get in tackle shops. Over the years Dannys told up youve gotta use bright pop ups, then it was all about particle fishing on Layer etc, then it was all about chod rigs and mouth trap, then match the hatch was everything, then your baits had to stink with goo, now its tiny hookbaits on the deck, before that it was maggot rigs, or flavoured plastic etc etc etc. Hes spun round more times than a weather vane over the years. Change for change sake is no change. Give it a couple of years and Im pretty sure that he'll be telling everyone that massive high pop ups are the answer. I honestly think that he genuinely does want to help people catch more fish, but every year he seems to chuck out everything he learnt the year before.
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