I've not read that book, you've piqued my interest 
I can see humans going extinct on this planet, you only have to look at that famous quote about consuming of resources (which I can't find). I wouldn't put it beyond humanity to send fertilised eggs into space when push comes to shove, far easier than sending humans....why am I thinking alien films...hmm.
The fact we think it's o.k to crash things into the moon rather than repatriate them to earth, send ships on 1 way missions to the edge of the galaxy on the pretence of learning while littering the far reaches of space, that should say everything another species needs to know.
And then there's the idea of mining other planets, stripping them of their resources, quite a few films based on that theory only with earth as the target.
Come to think of it I don't know what's worse, the idea of humans actually meeting another species or them introducing religion to them.
I can see humans going extinct on this planet, you only have to look at that famous quote about consuming of resources (which I can't find). I wouldn't put it beyond humanity to send fertilised eggs into space when push comes to shove, far easier than sending humans....why am I thinking alien films...hmm.
The fact we think it's o.k to crash things into the moon rather than repatriate them to earth, send ships on 1 way missions to the edge of the galaxy on the pretence of learning while littering the far reaches of space, that should say everything another species needs to know.
And then there's the idea of mining other planets, stripping them of their resources, quite a few films based on that theory only with earth as the target.
Come to think of it I don't know what's worse, the idea of humans actually meeting another species or them introducing religion to them.
In reply to Post #14
"If there is intelligent life out there they should throw a big envelope around earth to prevent humans from contaminating the rest of space with junk, or worse...humans."
Funny you should say that as there's been reports of spacecrafts etc. interfered with by unknown entities. There's also been many reports of nuclear weapons being intercepted & neutralised by UAP's. There's a famous case at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana back in 1967. Then there were nuclear ICBM's stored with launching capability during the cold war. They reported a red glowing light hovering over the base which disabled the weapons systems for a short time & then disappeared. It's a well documented case & backed up by an air force captain.
I do have the same opinions as yourself regarding the Human race.
We really do need an intervention IMO!
"If there is intelligent life out there they should throw a big envelope around earth to prevent humans from contaminating the rest of space with junk, or worse...humans."
Funny you should say that as there's been reports of spacecrafts etc. interfered with by unknown entities. There's also been many reports of nuclear weapons being intercepted & neutralised by UAP's. There's a famous case at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana back in 1967. Then there were nuclear ICBM's stored with launching capability during the cold war. They reported a red glowing light hovering over the base which disabled the weapons systems for a short time & then disappeared. It's a well documented case & backed up by an air force captain.
I do have the same opinions as yourself regarding the Human race.
We really do need an intervention IMO!
In reply to Post #13
Thanks for the recommendation.
I've already listened to a couple of chapters today.
Thanks for the recommendation.
I've already listened to a couple of chapters today.
It does make you wonder if they could be here to help or guide us.
It reminds me of the "Fukoshima Lights" where several UAP's were spotted in the area before, during & after the disaster. There were also eye witness reports of UAP's sending beams of light to the site & an immediate reduction radioactivity.
If there's any Netflix users here that are interested. I recommend watching a thought provoking documentary "Encounters: episode 4". It's a good watch whether you believe or not. The Japanese are so spiritual & open minded in this regard, I found it fascinating.
It reminds me of the "Fukoshima Lights" where several UAP's were spotted in the area before, during & after the disaster. There were also eye witness reports of UAP's sending beams of light to the site & an immediate reduction radioactivity.
If there's any Netflix users here that are interested. I recommend watching a thought provoking documentary "Encounters: episode 4". It's a good watch whether you believe or not. The Japanese are so spiritual & open minded in this regard, I found it fascinating.
In reply to Post #15
I've read his wiki page as I wasn't aware of his work.
Interesting stuff I'll have to check the book out.
I've read his wiki page as I wasn't aware of his work.
Interesting stuff I'll have to check the book out.
In reply to Post #16
Some good points, made me laugh, especially the last para
I don't put much into conspiracy theories or flat earthers or similar tripe
I do believe there is "LOT more" to "space" than we now know
The US etc. have been looking at life on other planets for a while, they know the bigger picture
Some good points, made me laugh, especially the last para
I don't put much into conspiracy theories or flat earthers or similar tripe
I do believe there is "LOT more" to "space" than we now know
The US etc. have been looking at life on other planets for a while, they know the bigger picture
In reply to Post #19
UFO'S are depicted in cave art, historic art etc covering many many thousands of year's, they've been watching since the birth of mankind.
Crashed UFOs? That's bull**** too, they come billions of miles only to crash in a US desert for no reason? Yeah course they did🤣 The truth of what has been happening is actually in plain sight.
UFO'S are depicted in cave art, historic art etc covering many many thousands of year's, they've been watching since the birth of mankind.
Crashed UFOs? That's bull**** too, they come billions of miles only to crash in a US desert for no reason? Yeah course they did🤣 The truth of what has been happening is actually in plain sight.
For any none believers Google US Nimitz UFO encounter, the Tic Tac UFO , official US military footage, our laws of physics tell us what was filmed should be impossible.
In reply to Post #22
Yeah it doesn't really make any sense that does it. All that tech & distance then they crash into a mountain or something.
The military probably get lucky every once in a while. I don't imagine they're just sitting back & observing crafts flying in restricted air space twiddling their thumbs..
Yeah it doesn't really make any sense that does it. All that tech & distance then they crash into a mountain or something.
The military probably get lucky every once in a while. I don't imagine they're just sitting back & observing crafts flying in restricted air space twiddling their thumbs..
In reply to Post #24
Look up one of the latest Shawn Ryan Podcasts - specifically about the guy who killed himself in a tesla truck outside one of trumps hotels or residencies.
He was a ex special forces guy and said he had proof of American and Chinese anti gravity drones which was the cause of all the recent increases in sightings above military installations. is a very interesting listen.
As said the probability that we are alone in the universe is minute.
I was sold after listening to Bob Lazar on Joe Rogan (particularly the element 115 comments) and then researching myself. I think if you look at the rate of technological progress since the end of WW2 it points to some form of reverse engineering.
Look up one of the latest Shawn Ryan Podcasts - specifically about the guy who killed himself in a tesla truck outside one of trumps hotels or residencies.
He was a ex special forces guy and said he had proof of American and Chinese anti gravity drones which was the cause of all the recent increases in sightings above military installations. is a very interesting listen.
As said the probability that we are alone in the universe is minute.
I was sold after listening to Bob Lazar on Joe Rogan (particularly the element 115 comments) and then researching myself. I think if you look at the rate of technological progress since the end of WW2 it points to some form of reverse engineering.
In reply to Post #25
Heard of him but haven't listened to any of his podcasts. I'll take a listen to the podcast you mentioned thanks.
I've seen the Joe Rogan Bob Lazar podcast & a few other documentaries about him. He is fascinating & consistent in his story throughout the years, & many of his stories turned out to be true - like the element 115, years before it's "official" discovery - as you mentioned.
I don't understand how he hasn't been successfully silenced before now or had a suspicious "accident".. It wouldn't be the first time would it.
Do you think the government (or other) could be allowing the info to be leaked? Or do they think his chequered past discredits his claims? It seems odd to me. Maybe he's just "too hot to handle".
At this point with everyone having a camera & instant social media etc. it's now the worlds worst kept secret.
Heard of him but haven't listened to any of his podcasts. I'll take a listen to the podcast you mentioned thanks.
I've seen the Joe Rogan Bob Lazar podcast & a few other documentaries about him. He is fascinating & consistent in his story throughout the years, & many of his stories turned out to be true - like the element 115, years before it's "official" discovery - as you mentioned.
I don't understand how he hasn't been successfully silenced before now or had a suspicious "accident".. It wouldn't be the first time would it.
Do you think the government (or other) could be allowing the info to be leaked? Or do they think his chequered past discredits his claims? It seems odd to me. Maybe he's just "too hot to handle".
At this point with everyone having a camera & instant social media etc. it's now the worlds worst kept secret.
In reply to Post #26
Recently discovered Jesse Michels on YouTube, some fascinating guests. Excellent watch.
https://youtu.be/2Xxmguz0GEQ?si=HeCMLmlZaFRfmbf1
https://youtu.be/73YBwFvcmF8?si=okxThwHwuuZg55J1
Just a couple to get you going. 👍
Recently discovered Jesse Michels on YouTube, some fascinating guests. Excellent watch.
https://youtu.be/2Xxmguz0GEQ?si=HeCMLmlZaFRfmbf1
https://youtu.be/73YBwFvcmF8?si=okxThwHwuuZg55J1
Just a couple to get you going. 👍
Check out the documentaries by Dr Steven Greer. 👍😉
In reply to Post #28
I'm aware of Greer. I've seen his documentary & a few podcasts. There's something about the guy that I can't quite put my finger on & he bores the hell out of me!
I think it's his expressionless face & monotone voice that does it.
My loss no doubt.
I'm aware of Greer. I've seen his documentary & a few podcasts. There's something about the guy that I can't quite put my finger on & he bores the hell out of me!
I think it's his expressionless face & monotone voice that does it.
My loss no doubt.
In reply to Post #27
Another guy I haven't heard of.
Thanks for sharing I've got some catching up to do!
Another guy I haven't heard of.
Thanks for sharing I've got some catching up to do!