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I have noticed....😉 (63 posts / 5,812 views)
mark1009
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Post #16 7 Jan 2023 20:53
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The favourite prey of otters in river's was eels now mankind has reduced eels to an endangered species it not surprising they are looking for whatever is available. Ecological systems are complex messing with them has many unexpected consequences.
Greybeard54
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Post #17 7 Jan 2023 20:54
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well put sir,
now when is that "like" button arriving?
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #18 7 Jan 2023 21:55
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Well said,couldn't have put it better..


The urbanisation of the countryside is fully underway..those who move into rural areas,not all,but most ,they say we love this area then seek to turn it into a sanitised version of whence they originated..

They have the money,they call the shots,they own more than one property which Jemma and Tarquin come down to stay with their jolly chums plus the surf board and lots of litter afterwards,delivered food from Waitrose,don't use the local shop..stick their noses in the air at born and bred ,country people ,and look down on them,heaven help you if you dare to speak to one ,or even say good morning is a mistake

That's a portal into rural life,a life i live ..like I have mentioned before,and I'm sure some disbelieve me,I am a stranger in my own village,apart from one or two I know..

Where are the locals ? Mostly they are dead,their names, reminders of times past special characters, their old properties unaffordable by the remaining young people who wish to remain,can't get on the property ladders and most end up Airbnb or investment properties..

There is no answer ,no fix to this problem it is what is ,I have learnt accept it now ,but the gentrification ,ruination of the rural parts of the country is in full swing..

This country is woke,broke,and beats to the monetary drum,money ruins everything that was nice ,...but people matter ,communities used to matter..not any more..
Teddybare
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Post #19 7 Jan 2023 22:23
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Don't vote Lib Dem and don't vote Labour. Or Green.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #20 7 Jan 2023 22:39
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That's a fallacy. Otters were always photographed eating eels because where the otter strongholds were didn't support a large variety of fish and eels were plentiful.
Otters will eat whatever is available.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #21 7 Jan 2023 22:49
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Or Conservative.
mark1009
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Post #22 7 Jan 2023 23:32
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Yes otters will eat what ever is available. When eels were plentiful that's what was easiest to catch. Now it's big fat carp. When there are no fish easy to catch they will switch to birds or small mammals. Whichever is the easiest food source.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #23 8 Jan 2023 09:01
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this is a true statement.
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #24 8 Jan 2023 09:48
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Yep, they will kill whatever living thing is the easiest to catch – problem is it's very rare they actually eat what they have killed or only eat a very small portion of the carcase. It does not take long for them to make an area devoid of prey.

As the RSPB have found out the hard way, putting up woke “Otters Keep Out” signs does not work! Just go and look up how many miles of “Predator Fencing” (Woke name for a Otter fence) they have installed around their reserves, it must be 100's of miles by now.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #25 8 Jan 2023 10:06
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Yes, ive seen the fences, good enough to stop a lion
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #26 8 Jan 2023 10:13
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There are plenty of lakes with inlet streams that are fenced Nick.

Otters are here for good now, you either fence your lake or cross your fingers and wait.
They will arrive sooner or later.
No point in keeping on bleating on about it IMO.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #27 8 Jan 2023 12:22
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All my local venues are right bang near a motorway,otter highway.

In fact I have designed, albeit a good few years ago a simple electric flap system with physical stops ,so when the spate streams,spate ..the water in the lake rises and any debris,sticks,pads etc can be ejected ,and no predator ,otter can get in ..

The biggest problem is falling branches off of trees ..so it's in my mind 24/7 check the fence ,check the fence..

We got a system,I check every other day ,son checks every other day and our trusted buddy ,does the checking as well we got a rota .it works ,...

It's about how much passion and care you have for the lake,...I think it was frenzy ,who correctly said ,everything inside thrives, outside pot luck..

No fence,no fish

(This reply was in general ,not Andy as he's on the ball anyway)
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #28 8 Jan 2023 15:14
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totally agreed mate..

once fenced, that will only be a deterrent at best unless its maintained.

Ive just gone over to solar panel, battery banks etc on our fence.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #29 8 Jan 2023 15:28
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On a local fishery Within 24 hours of a branch falling over onto a fence around the stock pond we found a dead carp dragged onto the bank. We didn't even know there were carp left in the stock pond before it was found as it had recently been netted.

Greybeard54
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Post #30 8 Jan 2023 15:33
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Some people just never learn, Australia learned the hard way.
When 24 rabbits were released into the wild in the early 19th century, their population quickly grew--to 600 million. The rabbits began destroying crops, and fences were built to keep them out,
then there's the mice,

Mice first appeared in Australia with the arrival of British colonists in 1788.


then they introduced domestic cats.

Feral cats threaten the survival of over 100 native species in Australia. They have caused the extinction of some ground-dwelling birds and small to medium-sized mammals. They are a major cause of decline for many land-based endangered animals such as the bilby, bandicoot, bettong and numbat.

I could fill the entire page with similar man made cockups regarding ill thought decisions and mismanagement, not just here but worldwide.

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