In reply to Post #15
Exactly that Ian
I'm slowly (very very slowly) getting there but it's a labour of love when it comes to marketing/Web design etc.... quite literally like a fish out of water.
Exactly that Ian
I'm slowly (very very slowly) getting there but it's a labour of love when it comes to marketing/Web design etc.... quite literally like a fish out of water.
In reply to Post #16
Best of luck Dave
Best of luck Dave
I used to sharpen my own, then when JH released his own range ready sharpened I moved to those. Just wish he did a wide gape with a straight point.
If I could get away with Kamakuras I would use them a lot more, but fishing weedy gravel pits they are one per cast and replace as they go over easy and can't really be touched up. There is nothing sharper though.
A friend suggested the new Ridgemonkey hooks and they are surprisingly excellent. Every medium curve shank in the pack was razor sharp so might give some other patterns a go. They also take a file touch up nicely.
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
If I could get away with Kamakuras I would use them a lot more, but fishing weedy gravel pits they are one per cast and replace as they go over easy and can't really be touched up. There is nothing sharper though.
A friend suggested the new Ridgemonkey hooks and they are surprisingly excellent. Every medium curve shank in the pack was razor sharp so might give some other patterns a go. They also take a file touch up nicely.
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
In reply to Post #18
The ridgemonkey hooks are excellent and so is the packaging as stops them getting bashed around in the packet
The ridgemonkey hooks are excellent and so is the packaging as stops them getting bashed around in the packet
In reply to Post #2
I also use Jason's hooks exclusively.
I do primarily fish a “10 -20 bites a season” water over here, and a tricky French commercial where I hope for 2 fish in a week
I also use Jason's hooks exclusively.
I do primarily fish a “10 -20 bites a season” water over here, and a tricky French commercial where I hope for 2 fish in a week
I use j precision hooks and tbh mate can't fault them at all, I won't use anything else now I love them been using them for a few years now and ill be honest at first was a bit put off by the price but then realised actually they ain't that and compared to others, use them with complete confidence now 👍
In reply to Post #1
With respect to your original question , I have used JP hooks before and felt that the style they were sharpened in was so simple that its not worth paying for sharpened hooks, they seemed that they were just sharpened quite dramatically along the back of the hook on the reverse side of the barb if that makes sense . Im not saying anything about the quality of the product at all , not putting them down, merely stating that it was a simple filing along one plane. The hooks were sharper than an original version at a not too much higher price point per pack of 10 when compared to shop bought non sharpened hooks .
The muggas that i buy from time to time sharpened by Jason H from the shops are sharpened on 3 planes i believe which in my mind makes a sharper more pricise point, and the price reflects that.
I would think damaged hooks from either of those suppliers are very few percentage wise as they use the little caps on the points.
A nice little selling point might be using something that can be reused as a hook bead or similar.
With respect to your original question , I have used JP hooks before and felt that the style they were sharpened in was so simple that its not worth paying for sharpened hooks, they seemed that they were just sharpened quite dramatically along the back of the hook on the reverse side of the barb if that makes sense . Im not saying anything about the quality of the product at all , not putting them down, merely stating that it was a simple filing along one plane. The hooks were sharper than an original version at a not too much higher price point per pack of 10 when compared to shop bought non sharpened hooks .
The muggas that i buy from time to time sharpened by Jason H from the shops are sharpened on 3 planes i believe which in my mind makes a sharper more pricise point, and the price reflects that.
I would think damaged hooks from either of those suppliers are very few percentage wise as they use the little caps on the points.
A nice little selling point might be using something that can be reused as a hook bead or similar.
In reply to Post #18
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
They are as sharp as they need to be. A 'too sharp' a hook can also do more mouth damage, like a barbless hook, cut and slide.
Touching up a hook with the added chance of turning the point when fishing, means it's going to need changing more often. Another fashion or fad to get you to spend more money?
We are well past the days of needing to sharpen our Mustad 34021's just to have them sharp enough to fish with.
I've used Drennan and Kamasan hooks, B175's, Specimen and Super Specialists and never needed to sharpen them either, nor Owner FLB's, Gamakatsu GP204's or even any VMC hooks.
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
They are as sharp as they need to be. A 'too sharp' a hook can also do more mouth damage, like a barbless hook, cut and slide.
Touching up a hook with the added chance of turning the point when fishing, means it's going to need changing more often. Another fashion or fad to get you to spend more money?
We are well past the days of needing to sharpen our Mustad 34021's just to have them sharp enough to fish with.
I've used Drennan and Kamasan hooks, B175's, Specimen and Super Specialists and never needed to sharpen them either, nor Owner FLB's, Gamakatsu GP204's or even any VMC hooks.
In reply to Post #23
You really do come across as a painful know it all sometimes Nick.
Sharp enough for you might not be sharp enough for other people. Hook sharpening is not a modern fad, it's been going on for years and years.
All hooks cause mouth damage. They pierce the flesh and you pull the fish in by it's mouth. A properly sharpened hook does not cause any more damage than your blunt ones out of the pack. It could be argued that they penetrate easier and deeper and therefore give a better hold less likely to move.
I've used Gamas, super specialists, Kamasans, owners. Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
Modern hooks are sharper and stronger, specially when you've run a file over them. For me a sharper hook converts more pick ups and a stronger hook lands more fish. It works for me and I'll carry on doing it.
You really do come across as a painful know it all sometimes Nick.
Sharp enough for you might not be sharp enough for other people. Hook sharpening is not a modern fad, it's been going on for years and years.
All hooks cause mouth damage. They pierce the flesh and you pull the fish in by it's mouth. A properly sharpened hook does not cause any more damage than your blunt ones out of the pack. It could be argued that they penetrate easier and deeper and therefore give a better hold less likely to move.
I've used Gamas, super specialists, Kamasans, owners. Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
Modern hooks are sharper and stronger, specially when you've run a file over them. For me a sharper hook converts more pick ups and a stronger hook lands more fish. It works for me and I'll carry on doing it.
In reply to Post #24
I've used Jamies hooks exclusively since he started up. I 100% think you convert more pickups to landed fish with a sharper hook. I also find his hooks stay sharper longer than the likes of fox and korda that used to blunt and turn over all the time. I often re-use a hook for several fish, sometimes just touching it up with a pillar file.
I've used Jamies hooks exclusively since he started up. I 100% think you convert more pickups to landed fish with a sharper hook. I also find his hooks stay sharper longer than the likes of fox and korda that used to blunt and turn over all the time. I often re-use a hook for several fish, sometimes just touching it up with a pillar file.
In reply to Post #24
Wheres the like button...
Wheres the like button...
In reply to Post #26
Agree , I'll ask the hospital next time to use a semi sharp needle for my Jabs Incase it tares. Never seen any damage from a hand sharpened hook bar the hole created by the hook initially.
Agree , I'll ask the hospital next time to use a semi sharp needle for my Jabs Incase it tares. Never seen any damage from a hand sharpened hook bar the hole created by the hook initially.
In reply to Post #25
I use Jason's muggas and love them . For my type of fishing - a handful of fish a season , they are a no brainer . They seem quite robust in comparison to kamakuras - they work for me 👍
I use Jason's muggas and love them . For my type of fishing - a handful of fish a season , they are a no brainer . They seem quite robust in comparison to kamakuras - they work for me 👍
In reply to Post #24
Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
It's known as passing on experience and backing it up with first-hand information.
I gave arguments why I don't sharpen hooks, but you decide to get rude, because you actually have no valid argument on your point.
The fad you are on about bores me like your posts, so you bore on at every opportunity, makes you and me
I never said sharpening hooks was modern, in fact I even gave reference to it, on Mustad 34021's.
That is the knowledge and experience I've passed on, because I can remember more than your 5minutes.
Also in that 5minutes, I have actually learnt through experience not just by rote, repetition of articles that are actually designed to sell fishing tackle.
A stronger hook is one that has not had material removed to make it thinner.
Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
It's known as passing on experience and backing it up with first-hand information.
I gave arguments why I don't sharpen hooks, but you decide to get rude, because you actually have no valid argument on your point.
The fad you are on about bores me like your posts, so you bore on at every opportunity, makes you and me
I never said sharpening hooks was modern, in fact I even gave reference to it, on Mustad 34021's.
That is the knowledge and experience I've passed on, because I can remember more than your 5minutes.
Also in that 5minutes, I have actually learnt through experience not just by rote, repetition of articles that are actually designed to sell fishing tackle.
A stronger hook is one that has not had material removed to make it thinner.
Jeez,,, some of you lot would argue with a woman on how to use a tampon. 