In reply to Post #7
That's the thing though, it has hardly any smell to us but may well be really strong to the fish.
That's the thing though, it has hardly any smell to us but may well be really strong to the fish.
In reply to Post #16
Agree, remember trying that artificial bread and watching carp ignore it but happily take real thing.
Agree, remember trying that artificial bread and watching carp ignore it but happily take real thing.
In reply to Post #17
Soon bait firms won't use bread far to expensive,
Soon bait firms won't use bread far to expensive,
In reply to Post #18
Yeah but the high quality bait firms have plenty of room to manoeuvre, go from bakers granary to tesco basic white, customers won't notice.
Yeah but the high quality bait firms have plenty of room to manoeuvre, go from bakers granary to tesco basic white, customers won't notice.
In reply to Post #12
Different things taste better cooked at different temperatures, over cook a fish, its pants, under cook a vegetable you suddenly identify as a rabbit.
I agree about the peanuts, I personally either use peanuts simmered in solution as hookbaits or the roasted and salted variety.
But not everything works like that, sure you get the reaction but dependant on the source material thats either going to positively or negatively effect the bait.
A little tip here, some "burnt" items get really really positive reactions from fish, mainly sugars and spices, but only some sugars and only some spices. from my experience, yours may differ c:
Different things taste better cooked at different temperatures, over cook a fish, its pants, under cook a vegetable you suddenly identify as a rabbit.
I agree about the peanuts, I personally either use peanuts simmered in solution as hookbaits or the roasted and salted variety.
But not everything works like that, sure you get the reaction but dependant on the source material thats either going to positively or negatively effect the bait.
A little tip here, some "burnt" items get really really positive reactions from fish, mainly sugars and spices, but only some sugars and only some spices. from my experience, yours may differ c:
In reply to Post #7
And some will try to say using bread crumbs in boilies makes them bad... The most consistent bait for carp... Bread... There aint carp out there that will not eat it.
And some will try to say using bread crumbs in boilies makes them bad... The most consistent bait for carp... Bread... There aint carp out there that will not eat it.
In reply to Post #21
Only ABS breadcrumbs..... Stickys are better quality
Only ABS breadcrumbs..... Stickys are better quality
In reply to Post #21
bread crumb in a boilie is a far cry from real bread but lets stop the trolling now
bread crumb in a boilie is a far cry from real bread but lets stop the trolling now
In reply to Post #23
No it is not.
No it is not.
In reply to Post #23
How is it a far cry... same ingredients and will have a same nutritional profile. Just less water.
How is it a far cry... same ingredients and will have a same nutritional profile. Just less water.
In reply to Post #23
Is it fake bread then?
Is it fake bread then?
In reply to Post #1
I think overloaded flavours, or even at recommended maximum level can cause good baits to 'blow' faster than the same bait with a lower level, or even act as a repellent, especially those within the Nature Identical (NI) or Artificial flavour.
Natural flavours don't necessarily have the same effect.
I have seen high level flavoured baits be ignored until the level is reduced, or even stimulate feeding away from the bait. Weird that the carp appeared to be feeding around 10yards away from the bed of boilies, on an area that had no (apparent) natural food. Or that the carp would not take the boilies until they had been in the lake for around 4 days, yet the same base mix with a different flavour and essential oil at lower levels produced from the off.
The two flavours that I recorded as being 'repellent' were a high level of strawberry and cheese. For both of them I had to drop to half the recommended dosage for carp, although chub loved the cheese at maximum level.
I think overloaded flavours, or even at recommended maximum level can cause good baits to 'blow' faster than the same bait with a lower level, or even act as a repellent, especially those within the Nature Identical (NI) or Artificial flavour.
Natural flavours don't necessarily have the same effect.
I have seen high level flavoured baits be ignored until the level is reduced, or even stimulate feeding away from the bait. Weird that the carp appeared to be feeding around 10yards away from the bed of boilies, on an area that had no (apparent) natural food. Or that the carp would not take the boilies until they had been in the lake for around 4 days, yet the same base mix with a different flavour and essential oil at lower levels produced from the off.
The two flavours that I recorded as being 'repellent' were a high level of strawberry and cheese. For both of them I had to drop to half the recommended dosage for carp, although chub loved the cheese at maximum level.
In reply to Post #25
the way bread is mentioned in this thread is different, Goose in one about a bread hook bait i.e crust
A high level of bread crumb in a bait is completely different. its binds up, makes bait hider for fish to break down, detracts from from the nutrient profile etc.
if neither of you can determine the distinction, you're unintelligent and its not worth me trying to explain,
enjoy your weekend.
the way bread is mentioned in this thread is different, Goose in one about a bread hook bait i.e crust
A high level of bread crumb in a bait is completely different. its binds up, makes bait hider for fish to break down, detracts from from the nutrient profile etc.
if neither of you can determine the distinction, you're unintelligent and its not worth me trying to explain,
enjoy your weekend.
Would it be acceptable for someone from a proper bait company to come on here & make insinuations about their competitors?
It totally lacks class and is proper cringey. As an example, you don't see Ali Hamidi saying negative things on social media about Fox or ESP for usng plastic packaging.
It's not a case of being right or wrong, it's just good business sense to let your product do the talking and not look like a classless fool by commenting on competitors products.
It totally lacks class and is proper cringey. As an example, you don't see Ali Hamidi saying negative things on social media about Fox or ESP for usng plastic packaging.
It's not a case of being right or wrong, it's just good business sense to let your product do the talking and not look like a classless fool by commenting on competitors products.
In reply to Post #29
When people ask questions, they get answers, if you don't like my answers its of zero consequence to me lol. if its a good product I say so if it isn't, I say so. I've praised plenty of firms on here even firms who I genuinely don't get on with for reasons outside of fishing.
My product does the talking, never spend a penny on sales, I'm alright thanks. but cheers for spilling over into what was an interesting thread.
Word of advice Boycie, you know one side of me on a very little forum, and yeah, in written word I come across at my worse, but ask a few people who've done business with me and ask if they have a single complaint? no. they will say I am an extremely accommodating person who does their utmost for them. Im also a generous person, giving away a good 20% of what I earn to charities both within fishing and outside it. you can think me a fool, classless, all you like but in reality, you're basing that on a very niche side to who I am. I invite you to enter dialogue with me, lets share a conversation, Im genuinely serious, unless thats not something you want which is perfectly fine also.
have a lovely weekend
When people ask questions, they get answers, if you don't like my answers its of zero consequence to me lol. if its a good product I say so if it isn't, I say so. I've praised plenty of firms on here even firms who I genuinely don't get on with for reasons outside of fishing.
My product does the talking, never spend a penny on sales, I'm alright thanks. but cheers for spilling over into what was an interesting thread.
Word of advice Boycie, you know one side of me on a very little forum, and yeah, in written word I come across at my worse, but ask a few people who've done business with me and ask if they have a single complaint? no. they will say I am an extremely accommodating person who does their utmost for them. Im also a generous person, giving away a good 20% of what I earn to charities both within fishing and outside it. you can think me a fool, classless, all you like but in reality, you're basing that on a very niche side to who I am. I invite you to enter dialogue with me, lets share a conversation, Im genuinely serious, unless thats not something you want which is perfectly fine also.
have a lovely weekend