In reply to Post #1
I almost exclusively use 9ft 3lb TC rods these days. I can cast over 100yards with them without any issue, and the convenience of the shorter pack down length is brilliant for mobility and storage. The 12fts rarely get used, tho there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. Just like the ability to store the 9fts made up in a cupboard, and transport easily in the boot of a car or public transport.
At the end of the day the fish don't care. As a kid I used to fish for float fish for carp with a match rod, match reel and 6lb mainline regularly catching fish to 20lb with no issue, or used an old 7ft fibre glass sea spinning rod for stalking. Heck I once caught a trout hand lining blue nylon string to a bent nail with some bread flake on it. All that really matters is getting your bait presented in front of a fish.
I almost exclusively use 9ft 3lb TC rods these days. I can cast over 100yards with them without any issue, and the convenience of the shorter pack down length is brilliant for mobility and storage. The 12fts rarely get used, tho there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. Just like the ability to store the 9fts made up in a cupboard, and transport easily in the boot of a car or public transport.
At the end of the day the fish don't care. As a kid I used to fish for float fish for carp with a match rod, match reel and 6lb mainline regularly catching fish to 20lb with no issue, or used an old 7ft fibre glass sea spinning rod for stalking. Heck I once caught a trout hand lining blue nylon string to a bent nail with some bread flake on it. All that really matters is getting your bait presented in front of a fish.
In reply to Post #16
Agreed I had 12 fly rods between 9 and 11 feet a 14ft Salmon rod various float and ledger rods it's not an issue a 6 ft Woolworths rod was fine. Gotta say though I like looking down the 12 and 13ft rods when the sun is shining they look lovely just pleased I have the opportunity to go regardless of all the thoughts just being there is enough happily lug around a set of 12 ft rods
Agreed I had 12 fly rods between 9 and 11 feet a 14ft Salmon rod various float and ledger rods it's not an issue a 6 ft Woolworths rod was fine. Gotta say though I like looking down the 12 and 13ft rods when the sun is shining they look lovely just pleased I have the opportunity to go regardless of all the thoughts just being there is enough happily lug around a set of 12 ft rods
My carp rods have always been 12ft, with the exception of my stalking rod.
I have used or tested shorter rods occasionally, and for me, the reduction in casting distance. If I was on small intimate waters it may not matter, but I do fish large waters where I do need to cast big distances at times.
I love my Century NG's and my Rod Hutchinson The Ones they both cast well over 100metres and playing fish is a pleasure.
The only reason I can see for shorter rods is boat use or stalking in enclosed areas.
I have used or tested shorter rods occasionally, and for me, the reduction in casting distance. If I was on small intimate waters it may not matter, but I do fish large waters where I do need to cast big distances at times.
I love my Century NG's and my Rod Hutchinson The Ones they both cast well over 100metres and playing fish is a pleasure.
The only reason I can see for shorter rods is boat use or stalking in enclosed areas.
In reply to Post #1
Very much doubt 12ft rods will become a thing of the past.
Majority of small rod use is trend driven.
It really comes down to the way you like to fish and the circumstances you face.
Very much doubt 12ft rods will become a thing of the past.
Majority of small rod use is trend driven.
It really comes down to the way you like to fish and the circumstances you face.
Why would I bring a 12ft rod when I can hit 100 yards with my 10ft which is also great for playing with fish?
+100 yard lol i will use a baitboot from now for that distance.
+100 yard lol i will use a baitboot from now for that distance.
In reply to Post #18
For me the benefit of a 9ft rod is nothing really to do with the fishing aspects. I live in a London flat, and the only way of storing my 12ft rods is under a bed, without reels on. I can store my scopes made up ready to go in a cupboard, and they're dead easy to carry on a bus/tube (12fts are a right pain). Got the 12fts when I had a garden flat and a shed to store them in, now I don't they're just impractical for all the times they're not being used for fishing. In truth though now I've got the 9fts, I can't say I've really noticed any way that they're inferior in terms of casting or fish playing. Maybe I've had to improve me technique a bit to still get the distance with a 9ft, but I'm still getting my bait where I want it.
For me the benefit of a 9ft rod is nothing really to do with the fishing aspects. I live in a London flat, and the only way of storing my 12ft rods is under a bed, without reels on. I can store my scopes made up ready to go in a cupboard, and they're dead easy to carry on a bus/tube (12fts are a right pain). Got the 12fts when I had a garden flat and a shed to store them in, now I don't they're just impractical for all the times they're not being used for fishing. In truth though now I've got the 9fts, I can't say I've really noticed any way that they're inferior in terms of casting or fish playing. Maybe I've had to improve me technique a bit to still get the distance with a 9ft, but I'm still getting my bait where I want it.
In reply to Post #20
Plenty of distance venues with bait boat bans.
Plenty of distance venues with bait boat bans.
In reply to Post #22
I fish mainly with my 10' ones because I'm on a canal or a small water but I've now realised by end of year when I come off the canals to fish the lakes in the colder months I will need 12 footers,so I'm saving up to get me a matching set of Harrison rods so I can hit that far bank as it seems the fish are over that way in the colder weather.
I fish mainly with my 10' ones because I'm on a canal or a small water but I've now realised by end of year when I come off the canals to fish the lakes in the colder months I will need 12 footers,so I'm saving up to get me a matching set of Harrison rods so I can hit that far bank as it seems the fish are over that way in the colder weather.
In reply to Post #2
Wasn't me was it? 😂, I was fishing last week using my 9fts and I've often wondered at 6ft 3 if I looked silly haha
Back to the question I have 9fts, 10fts and 12fts I use my 10fts most of the time now, I only used my 9fts last week to make it worth having them lol my 10fts are the ones I go for 90% of the time and haven't used my 12fts since last august.
I just really like my 10fts can cast upto 100 yards with them and love playing fish on them
Wasn't me was it? 😂, I was fishing last week using my 9fts and I've often wondered at 6ft 3 if I looked silly haha
Back to the question I have 9fts, 10fts and 12fts I use my 10fts most of the time now, I only used my 9fts last week to make it worth having them lol my 10fts are the ones I go for 90% of the time and haven't used my 12fts since last august.
I just really like my 10fts can cast upto 100 yards with them and love playing fish on them
In reply to Post #1
I remember fishing with some lovely 10ft rods on a small lake many years ago and they were great. But then I moved onto a big pit and I was completely under-gunned. I just couldn't reach where the fish were and I cannot see that anything has changed since those days. Big rods cast further - it is simple physics. Since then I have always fished with 12ft but this year I've had some 12ft 6 Aviators made for me. I wanted a bit more stiffness for casting without losing the playability and apparently lengthening the rod can achieve this. 13ft just seemed too long so the 12ft 6 were a good compromise. First trip in 2 weeks so I will see how they get on.
I remember fishing with some lovely 10ft rods on a small lake many years ago and they were great. But then I moved onto a big pit and I was completely under-gunned. I just couldn't reach where the fish were and I cannot see that anything has changed since those days. Big rods cast further - it is simple physics. Since then I have always fished with 12ft but this year I've had some 12ft 6 Aviators made for me. I wanted a bit more stiffness for casting without losing the playability and apparently lengthening the rod can achieve this. 13ft just seemed too long so the 12ft 6 were a good compromise. First trip in 2 weeks so I will see how they get on.
In reply to Post #25
Ahh,thought it was you Richard,told you I was very fit for my age ,as you found out ,I sure can run If I have to..
Lol
Ahh,thought it was you Richard,told you I was very fit for my age ,as you found out ,I sure can run If I have to..
Lol
In reply to Post #25
Out of interest mate which 10ft rods do you use?
Out of interest mate which 10ft rods do you use?
Back in the day people didn't have multiple set ups, whereas nowadays you'll find a lot of carpers have a general use set up, and a their distance set up.
There's is bit of snobbery amongst carpers (shock horror!) that anything less than 12ft is a toy or a fashion accessory. In truth, if these shorter rods didn't make sense then surely they wouldn't be so successful. Nashy originally come up with the scopes as a solution to a problem, he didn't pluck the concept out of thin air just to start a trend. That would have been too big a gamble. When people started using scopes and other short blanks they realised (as I did) that we had been stuck in a rut with 12/13 foot rods for the past 20 years. Things move on, new ideas and solutions evolve.
I've still got my 12's for bigger waters and France trips, but for most of my fishing, my short rods are perfectly adequate and much more practical. Not because of fashion or fad.
PS, it does make me laugh on here that most threads end up with blokes swinging their dicks about what they used to use in the good old days, and how they've been at it since Adam was a lad 🤣
There's is bit of snobbery amongst carpers (shock horror!) that anything less than 12ft is a toy or a fashion accessory. In truth, if these shorter rods didn't make sense then surely they wouldn't be so successful. Nashy originally come up with the scopes as a solution to a problem, he didn't pluck the concept out of thin air just to start a trend. That would have been too big a gamble. When people started using scopes and other short blanks they realised (as I did) that we had been stuck in a rut with 12/13 foot rods for the past 20 years. Things move on, new ideas and solutions evolve.
I've still got my 12's for bigger waters and France trips, but for most of my fishing, my short rods are perfectly adequate and much more practical. Not because of fashion or fad.
PS, it does make me laugh on here that most threads end up with blokes swinging their dicks about what they used to use in the good old days, and how they've been at it since Adam was a lad 🤣
In reply to Post #27
I knew it 😂 I wondered who was going watching me in the bushes haha
I knew it 😂 I wondered who was going watching me in the bushes haha
In reply to Post #28
At the minute some free spirit 10ft 3.25tc ctx rods I got them to see how I got on with them and actually really like them, my plan was to upgrade them if I liked them but I cant see the need now these are brilliant rods and have no need to upgrade anymore.
My 9fts are mash dwarfs and my 12fts are free spirit s lites
At the minute some free spirit 10ft 3.25tc ctx rods I got them to see how I got on with them and actually really like them, my plan was to upgrade them if I liked them but I cant see the need now these are brilliant rods and have no need to upgrade anymore.
My 9fts are mash dwarfs and my 12fts are free spirit s lites