In reply to Post #15
It's not necessarily saleable bait, I doubt they are opening up 5kg bags and chucking it in but every factory has wastage that needs to go somewhere.
It's not necessarily saleable bait, I doubt they are opening up 5kg bags and chucking it in but every factory has wastage that needs to go somewhere.
In reply to Post #6
Can you list the Ingrediants and levels in both so we can compare ?
Can you list the Ingrediants and levels in both so we can compare ?
In reply to Post #10
None of them are truly "active" baits in the sense of accelerated break down, Hydra K comes in a shelf life option for starters.
Its not a big statement to say one of the largest bait rollers and suppliers in the world makes a better bait, fairly sure ABS don't get their ingredient from the same place as sticky as they don't use enough.
I've never claimed hydra k to be a bad bait, its just ingredients wise and nutritionally inferior.
I will not publish any numerative info I have on the baits as thats out of order to each company.
None of them are truly "active" baits in the sense of accelerated break down, Hydra K comes in a shelf life option for starters.
Its not a big statement to say one of the largest bait rollers and suppliers in the world makes a better bait, fairly sure ABS don't get their ingredient from the same place as sticky as they don't use enough.
I've never claimed hydra k to be a bad bait, its just ingredients wise and nutritionally inferior.
I will not publish any numerative info I have on the baits as thats out of order to each company.
In reply to Post #9
You've literally logged in for the first time in months and seem to only ever log on to comment on ABS bait, zero impartiality from you
You've literally logged in for the first time in months and seem to only ever log on to comment on ABS bait, zero impartiality from you
In reply to Post #16
whilst some companies do stickys operation is very efficient, I'm sure with recovery built into their production lines and some of the consultants wanting the old randoms there wont be a lot of wastage, think they have financial ties to the willows syndicate so some may go in there
whilst some companies do stickys operation is very efficient, I'm sure with recovery built into their production lines and some of the consultants wanting the old randoms there wont be a lot of wastage, think they have financial ties to the willows syndicate so some may go in there
In reply to Post #18
so just to quell a few unsubstantiated rumours on here....
Sticky do not have a exclusive supply base to any other of the big rolling companies - i know for a fact they buy several ingredients from the same companies as Nash, Mainline, & Abs to mention a few. I know the account manager who sell's it to them as i previously worked for the same group.
I think some are living under the impression that bait companies are big players in the aqua feed / ingredient world... they are anything but.... what one company buys will be available to them all in the same minimum order spec's.
I cant see how publishing a nutritional info profile for bait would be out of order if you have them? however im sure some could argue in that being on a part of the make up to a "good" bait
so just to quell a few unsubstantiated rumours on here....
Sticky do not have a exclusive supply base to any other of the big rolling companies - i know for a fact they buy several ingredients from the same companies as Nash, Mainline, & Abs to mention a few. I know the account manager who sell's it to them as i previously worked for the same group.
I think some are living under the impression that bait companies are big players in the aqua feed / ingredient world... they are anything but.... what one company buys will be available to them all in the same minimum order spec's.
I cant see how publishing a nutritional info profile for bait would be out of order if you have them? however im sure some could argue in that being on a part of the make up to a "good" bait
In reply to Post #18
If you're talking about size of rolling operation being an indication of quality, pretty sure Marco makes a whole lot more than Sticky. Lol.
Cant see how publishing the ingredients is out of order, most baits are pretty similar tbh. And in Europe they have to have them on the bag anyway.
If you're talking about size of rolling operation being an indication of quality, pretty sure Marco makes a whole lot more than Sticky. Lol.
Cant see how publishing the ingredients is out of order, most baits are pretty similar tbh. And in Europe they have to have them on the bag anyway.
In reply to Post #18
To be fair I didn't mean supplier as in distributor. I mean the brand of ingredient. Take krill meal for instance, there is a small number of companies that “make” krill meal. And anyone from a huge bait company to someone rolling bait for themselves in their shed can get access to every single different brand of krill meal.
I'd be sure that ABS roll enough to be buying ICBs and hitting minimum orders for a majority of distributors out there. And regardless, they are all distributing the same products. It's like going in to tesco and being told you can't buy Nescafé coffee so going to sainsburys and buying Nescafé coffee isn't it
To be fair I didn't mean supplier as in distributor. I mean the brand of ingredient. Take krill meal for instance, there is a small number of companies that “make” krill meal. And anyone from a huge bait company to someone rolling bait for themselves in their shed can get access to every single different brand of krill meal.
I'd be sure that ABS roll enough to be buying ICBs and hitting minimum orders for a majority of distributors out there. And regardless, they are all distributing the same products. It's like going in to tesco and being told you can't buy Nescafé coffee so going to sainsburys and buying Nescafé coffee isn't it
I have a fair bit of sticky krill active taking up space in the freezer, if you stick on it give me a shout we can sort something out I am sure
In reply to Post #19
I've never said I was impartial, and I've also stated that I'm an ABS customer. Yes I don't login often. But when I do all I see is posts from you on every subject while you spread your “knowledge” Well done for doing your research. Pity you don't do the same when your spouting about companies. Giving an opinion and degrading other companies are totally different with no evidence. All that need to be said was “I would go with sticky” far “superior ingredients” implies you know. So to help the person out fully is publish both recipes and let them make their own decision.
I've never said I was impartial, and I've also stated that I'm an ABS customer. Yes I don't login often. But when I do all I see is posts from you on every subject while you spread your “knowledge” Well done for doing your research. Pity you don't do the same when your spouting about companies. Giving an opinion and degrading other companies are totally different with no evidence. All that need to be said was “I would go with sticky” far “superior ingredients” implies you know. So to help the person out fully is publish both recipes and let them make their own decision.
In reply to Post #25
I love how the entire bait world is all “rumours” and here say. It must be impossible for newcomers to make any sense of where to buy decent bait.
It's a market which is completely saturated and full of absolute lies. There are good baits and bad baits. Use them and make your own minds up or like I said before, get someone more in the loop (the honest one) to help you choose.
Keeperboy
I love how the entire bait world is all “rumours” and here say. It must be impossible for newcomers to make any sense of where to buy decent bait.
It's a market which is completely saturated and full of absolute lies. There are good baits and bad baits. Use them and make your own minds up or like I said before, get someone more in the loop (the honest one) to help you choose.
Keeperboy
In reply to Post #26
That's the problem - everyone's an expert so how do they know who to trust?
That's the problem - everyone's an expert so how do they know who to trust?
In reply to Post #26
Well said.
The art of bait making is lost on many newcomers/ready rolled users.
Business bait companies know other Business owners, they talk to each other.
They can only go on fellow angler capture whilst fishing same venues, Clever marketing, friends recommendations, social media, to find your own happy bait.
If you still cannot make your mind up on a bait to use.
You could learn to make a boilie base mix from scratch. Plenty of advice and mixes on here. Then you know, what is what, and why it is in there, and the cost of good quality ingredients.
Well said.
The art of bait making is lost on many newcomers/ready rolled users.
Business bait companies know other Business owners, they talk to each other.
They can only go on fellow angler capture whilst fishing same venues, Clever marketing, friends recommendations, social media, to find your own happy bait.
If you still cannot make your mind up on a bait to use.
You could learn to make a boilie base mix from scratch. Plenty of advice and mixes on here. Then you know, what is what, and why it is in there, and the cost of good quality ingredients.
In reply to Post #15
Believe me they do feed sticky krill into the lake. Think I might fish them side by side for a while see what happens
Believe me they do feed sticky krill into the lake. Think I might fish them side by side for a while see what happens
In reply to Post #7
15 years ago I was fishing Farlows it had so much cell chucked in it people caught on it I was using the big fish mix and did as well if not better.
I thought active bait supplies a large quantity to the bait industry the only other provider be it a small bait company I'm aware of that does his own thing is John Baker.
15 years ago I was fishing Farlows it had so much cell chucked in it people caught on it I was using the big fish mix and did as well if not better.
I thought active bait supplies a large quantity to the bait industry the only other provider be it a small bait company I'm aware of that does his own thing is John Baker.