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Stove recommendations. (86 posts / 5,825 views)
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #16 25 Sep 2021 09:51
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In reply to Post #15
I haven't been a forum member long enough to get access to the classifieds mate.

Regarding your Omnifuel stove, you may be able to make it quieter with a Berniedawg silent cap for about £30. The videos I've been watching on these caps makes quite a bit of a difference to the noise being emitted.
bluebeat13
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Post #17 25 Sep 2021 10:00
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In reply to Post #14
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.

I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #18 25 Sep 2021 10:05
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In reply to Post #12
if you want to go gas
then a stove that will work all year and not a lot of money is the Bulin T4 stove this has the pre heater pipe that warms the gas so it works in winter on the liquid gas if you invert the can
obviously this stove is a budget stove and wont last anywhere near the length of time a quality gas stove like the Original Primus Gravity stoves mine is 30 years old and only had to clean the jet twice in that time
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #19 25 Sep 2021 10:30
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Just get yourself a Trangia set up, either in 25 or 27 size,you'll enjoy using them and the art of thorough cooking..

You can use meths or reconstructed bioethanol

I don't go fishing without mine..
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #20 25 Sep 2021 10:39
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In reply to Post #19
I'd 2nd that All I ever use, total reliability in all weathers.
bmthman bmthman
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Post #21 25 Sep 2021 10:56
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Nothing beats a Trangia for reliability in all weathers and it's satisfying to use.
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #22 25 Sep 2021 12:18
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In reply to Post #18
I've just taken a look at the Primus Gravity 3 stove and fir £65 delivered looks a cracking bit of kit. Didn't realise that you can also get a multi-fuel kit to go with it for about £50 so I suppose you could initially buy just the stove and possibly upgrade to multi-fuel later on.
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #23 25 Sep 2021 12:22
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In reply to Post #19
I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?

I drink an awful amount of tea and coffee on the bank and just wondering if it would be worth the effort with waiting much longer for the kettle to boil for my brew. I want to be looking out for activity of fish showing rather than watching my stove longer. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was about 8 to 10 minutes for the trangia to boil water.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #24 25 Sep 2021 12:47
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No mate it's a bit of a misconception, I find it very quick to boil water,especially if you put in your cup what you need to boil,then that amount in the kettle,..just don't use the simmer ring for boiling,I do though myself...

They are simple ,literally bomb proof nothing to fail or break on you,worst thing you can do is forget the fuel..


I'm into stoves,from stick stoves,to Uco grills ,I'd have a trangia over ANY stove on the market..


Each to there own n all that, your missing out a bit remember Trangia is system,not a stove

Hope you find what you want.
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
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Post #25 25 Sep 2021 12:59
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In reply to Post #24
Sorry, just taken a look at the Trangia stuff and didn't realise you can get a system that includes a gas ring too. I also found I can get 15% off through my wife's NHS discount card so for £85 looks a great little kit without the need to get pans etc. Would my trakker kettle fit on it though?

Definitely a contender now though to be added to the others. 😁👍
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #26 25 Sep 2021 13:16
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In reply to Post #14

Depends on the day. If you are waking up at 3 or 4 degrees C or less and it stays that cold all day then you might need to do it throughout the day. If it warms up to 7 degrees or more just the once.

Warm A couple of millimetres of water in the saucepan to boil a kettle or Moka pot, neither chicken nor egg, just a quick fix😉
It is normally only a problem when the canister is nearly empty as the pressure inside is lower.


As Bluebeat says, that pre-heat tube really does make a difference. It is why I like the Bulin more than the WebTex or Thermolite (which I still have).

I've seen this suggestion a couple of times regarding warming up the cannisters in warm water in the colder months. Is this something you need to do every time before use in 5he winter or only first thing in the morning and it will be fine for the rest of the day.

Also, if you're needing to warm up the cannisters in a shallow pan of warm water, where are you sourcing the warm water if your stove isn't working to heat up the water anyway (it sounds like the case of which came first, the chicken or the egg).


In reply to Post #14
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.

I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #27 25 Sep 2021 14:35
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In reply to Post #25
Depending on what version you buy ,they come with a kettle specified to the system you have bought..,unless you don't want a kettle as some use the space for fuel ,or a cup..

The smaller the no,is the size of the set,ie 25 size is the so called family Trangia,the 27 is a one and two man version,you buy the gas burner separately if you want..I bought a generic,go gas one,and went straight back to meths ,but that's me..

I also use the 28 mini,for another interest ,it is also part of my survival grab bag,that I have,plus a lixada stick stove and Hammaro lighting paper..

My humble advice,....get a 27ul,ultralight and non stick pan,don't bother with gas..and have fun...you wanna see the Mably wagyus I cook on it...three component meals,teach old outlaw and Ramsey ...lol

Pps,look at my 27 ul ,pre non stick frypan in my avatar,it shows the kettle,and how it sits in...!
Zack
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Post #28 25 Sep 2021 15:09
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>>>>I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?<<<

If you use a preheater with a Trangia, you will be cooking straight away in seconds and then they are not slow. Overdo the preheater though and the Trangia burner will be like an Saturn 5 rocket engine on steroids.

But, no matter how long it takes your water to boil, you can still be looking at the water for activity, their is no need to sit with your eyes transfixed on your kettle singing "Boil Baby Boil".

I also bought the Trangia Billy Can, 2.5 litres to fit my Trangia 27. It all fits inside the Billy can including the windshields etc as I find the supplied cooking pots too "piddly" small unless your cooking a tin of soup or sausages and beans etc but with the Billy can it makes it easier to knock up big meals like a stirfry or stew and plenty of room to "Stir" things without it falling out of the pan.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #29 25 Sep 2021 15:40
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In reply to Post #28
Zack,if you look at Paul Bisseker Bushcraft on YouTube he does a vid on that Billy can set up,he also uses it as oven on its side..

Don't know if you have seen it..?
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #30 25 Sep 2021 15:54
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stoves with a pre heat tube dont need any of this hot water nonsence

in zero degrees butane wont vaporise into a gas but if you have a stove like a Bulin thats got a pre heat tube you simply light it then turn the gas bottle upside down this will then gravity feed the liquid gas the pre heat tube will then vaporise it into gas and it will run like its a summers day simple
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