In reply to Post #11
Happy to see the affordable range from Korda and like anybody else I like using quality gear. My point really was the generic products that can be bought much cheaper than the carpy branded stuff. Water proofs, clothing, camping gear, footwear etc.
Happy to see the affordable range from Korda and like anybody else I like using quality gear. My point really was the generic products that can be bought much cheaper than the carpy branded stuff. Water proofs, clothing, camping gear, footwear etc.
I like all the people in this post saying "its worth spending the extra money on hooks" just assuming that anything that costs more money is better.
Buy all my end tackle, swivel's etc off Ebay nowadays to avoid the carp tax, no problems whatsoever with it 
Hooks are not something i have comprised as yet but i guess like most things, the mark up will be extortionate
Might be a bit of adapt or be out of it this! I guess more and more people get fed up with been ripped off and are starting to realise that carp tax is massive and cheaper alternatives from Ebay (same Chinese stuff) is just as good
Its good to have choices and more importantly competition
Hooks are not something i have comprised as yet but i guess like most things, the mark up will be extortionate
Might be a bit of adapt or be out of it this! I guess more and more people get fed up with been ripped off and are starting to realise that carp tax is massive and cheaper alternatives from Ebay (same Chinese stuff) is just as good
Its good to have choices and more importantly competition
In reply to Post #17
Having had problems with a few cheaper brands, i think in some cases it is, hooks being one of them. If you have got on ok with cheap hooks, good for you, but i haven't and ive lost both fish and opportunities because of it, which i cant afford to do on the water that im on atm
To me, buying cheap hooks is like buying a decent car and putting cheap tyres on it
Having had problems with a few cheaper brands, i think in some cases it is, hooks being one of them. If you have got on ok with cheap hooks, good for you, but i haven't and ive lost both fish and opportunities because of it, which i cant afford to do on the water that im on atm
To me, buying cheap hooks is like buying a decent car and putting cheap tyres on it
I tried the Bank tackle stuff but went back to ESP, Korda etc.
The swivels look the same, but when you test the rotation against the ESP high performance they catch and grind. Also had them with blobs of the coating blocking them up.
For the sake of a few quid it's not worth it for me.
The swivels look the same, but when you test the rotation against the ESP high performance they catch and grind. Also had them with blobs of the coating blocking them up.
For the sake of a few quid it's not worth it for me.
I wo der how many factories there are that make hooks. I know that NGT have their own factory and make hooks for Fox, and id expect they make others too.
I wonder who makes J precision hooks, people rave about them, thr same people who dismiss some of the other cheaper brands that look exeptionally similar.
A proper blind test on hooks, id be very suprised if people woipd be able to pick out the cheaper brands.
I wonder who makes J precision hooks, people rave about them, thr same people who dismiss some of the other cheaper brands that look exeptionally similar.
A proper blind test on hooks, id be very suprised if people woipd be able to pick out the cheaper brands.
In reply to Post #21
I could be wrong but I don't believe NGT make anything. I understand they are an importer i.e they rebrand (tat) and bring/sell to the European market.
Like I say, could be wrong.
I could be wrong but I don't believe NGT make anything. I understand they are an importer i.e they rebrand (tat) and bring/sell to the European market.
Like I say, could be wrong.
In reply to Post #22
I believe that its the complete opposite, so ive been told on good authority. They are one of the very few manufacturers that have factories and produce their own items, and they produce many for others too.
I believe that its the complete opposite, so ive been told on good authority. They are one of the very few manufacturers that have factories and produce their own items, and they produce many for others too.
In reply to Post #23
If that is true I find it odd that they produce such absolute sh*t under their own banner and manufacture presumably half decent stuff for other brands.
If that is true I find it odd that they produce such absolute sh*t under their own banner and manufacture presumably half decent stuff for other brands.
In reply to Post #24
I agree. But ive been told it by someone in the tackle industry, i see no reason he would lie.
Theres probably a lot of money to be made just churning out cheap tat. No one is going to spend full price for a premium product with NGT written on it, so why even bother attempt to compete in that market.
I agree. But ive been told it by someone in the tackle industry, i see no reason he would lie.
Theres probably a lot of money to be made just churning out cheap tat. No one is going to spend full price for a premium product with NGT written on it, so why even bother attempt to compete in that market.
In reply to Post #25
Good point
Good point
In reply to Post #22
No mate you aren't wrong. Met the guy at an evening of carp with Terry Hearn a few years back and he told me they import huge quantities of stuff to get the price so low direct from China. They manufacture nothing
No mate you aren't wrong. Met the guy at an evening of carp with Terry Hearn a few years back and he told me they import huge quantities of stuff to get the price so low direct from China. They manufacture nothing
I stand corrected.
That's a good price. Hooks have become overly expensive over the years. They look a bit like one of the Fly patterns anglers were using a few years back. Like all buisness they've seen a demand and gone for it. I'll definately be having a look. 
Lot of the even cheaper tat also comes in from India, was a guy I met once his full name escapes me at one show on the next trade stand to the one I was helping out on he had a booking company for lakes abroad but also dabbled in cheap fishing kit, he had a brand name he used again cannot remember that but he was absolutely making a killing at Zwolle on baiting spoons with either a long or short handle he sold something like 600 over that weekend all the stock of them he took over, he was banging them out for something like 6 euro told me they cost him pence from India he goes to some tackle expo every year over there, his words were cheap as chips cheaper than China.