In reply to Post #16
Use fresh and then it's not a problem 😂
Use fresh and then it's not a problem 😂
Or tinned corn...
In reply to Post #15
Mpg is a rather sweet liquid. So if your using mpg as preservative it will never taste like battery acid.
Mpg is a rather sweet liquid. So if your using mpg as preservative it will never taste like battery acid.
In reply to Post #19
I can assure you msg is not sweet! Glycerine is sweet. Mpg is not
I can assure you msg is not sweet! Glycerine is sweet. Mpg is not
In reply to Post #20
Then you've tatsed the wrong bottle, Mpg has mildly sweet, almost tasteless taste.
And if you don't believe me, buy some and taste or believe the comments from animal feed industry where mpg is used to treat ketosis.
Btw, some of the preservatives you based on mpg have more additives that make it sour. For that reason, some of my friends are using my own created mixture based on mpg because it has no bitter taste when used in bait!
Then you've tatsed the wrong bottle, Mpg has mildly sweet, almost tasteless taste.
And if you don't believe me, buy some and taste or believe the comments from animal feed industry where mpg is used to treat ketosis.
Btw, some of the preservatives you based on mpg have more additives that make it sour. For that reason, some of my friends are using my own created mixture based on mpg because it has no bitter taste when used in bait!
In reply to Post #1
Which companies produce the best preserved/shelf life bait?
Which companies produce the best preserved/shelf life bait?
In reply to Post #22
A lot of people on here rate the a bait. Not tried them myself though.
A lot of people on here rate the a bait. Not tried them myself though.
In reply to Post #22
A Bait is highly rated
A Bait is highly rated
In reply to Post #21
I've used potassium sorbate at upto 12g a kilo. With the baits air dryed for 24 hours they last 3 months no problem and can't taste any difference to a freezer bait. Certainly no burnt or harsh taste.
The bait takes around 4-6 hours longer than freezer baits to get to the same stage of softness so I'm happy to carry on in this method.
I've used potassium sorbate at upto 12g a kilo. With the baits air dryed for 24 hours they last 3 months no problem and can't taste any difference to a freezer bait. Certainly no burnt or harsh taste.
The bait takes around 4-6 hours longer than freezer baits to get to the same stage of softness so I'm happy to carry on in this method.
In reply to Post #15
Funny you should say about Nut baits. I remember tasting a Dynamite Monster Tiger bait donkeys years ago and i vowed never to use them as they tasted of chemicals, really harsh BUT how many fish have they caught over the years? Indeed shelf life baits in general.
A lot of people far more knowledgeable than me on this thread but what i can say is stabilised baits work. I havent used anything else for the last 4 years and more than held my own on any water ive been on and we are not talking puddles here where carp don't have any choice but to eat any old crap thats thrown at them.
Funny you should say about Nut baits. I remember tasting a Dynamite Monster Tiger bait donkeys years ago and i vowed never to use them as they tasted of chemicals, really harsh BUT how many fish have they caught over the years? Indeed shelf life baits in general.
A lot of people far more knowledgeable than me on this thread but what i can say is stabilised baits work. I havent used anything else for the last 4 years and more than held my own on any water ive been on and we are not talking puddles here where carp don't have any choice but to eat any old crap thats thrown at them.
In reply to Post #25
That's a lot of potassium sorbate.
That's a lot of potassium sorbate.
In reply to Post #27
Per kilo of basemix ? It's below the recommend level by the suppliers including BAF.
The bait breaks down perfect and has no taste difference so I don't see it as high at all.
Per kilo of basemix ? It's below the recommend level by the suppliers including BAF.
The bait breaks down perfect and has no taste difference so I don't see it as high at all.
In reply to Post #28
I had an odd experience with a bait once. One bag of frozen I used 2 years after purchase and I couldn't buy a bite on it. Used a bag of shelfies in the same variety at the same time and they were just as productive as ever. Both baits were the same age but the shelfies seemed to last better even though the freezer bait had remained frozen for the whole time. I never tried them side by side when they were both fresh but I was surprised by the result.
I had an odd experience with a bait once. One bag of frozen I used 2 years after purchase and I couldn't buy a bite on it. Used a bag of shelfies in the same variety at the same time and they were just as productive as ever. Both baits were the same age but the shelfies seemed to last better even though the freezer bait had remained frozen for the whole time. I never tried them side by side when they were both fresh but I was surprised by the result.
In reply to Post #21
Pharma grade mpg is the one with the least smell and least taste, but that is not the most commonly used type in bait is it as it's way more expensive. It is what I use if I ever have to preserve anything(but prefer fresh bait). Over the years i have probably purchased several thousand litres from various places and Mpg has a distinctive chemical taste and smell that taints bait. That is why the best bait companies modify it with sweetners and liquids to cover it up! I have baf one in my hand right now. Smells like chemicals taste like it too! Remember there are several grades of mpg!
Pharma grade mpg is the one with the least smell and least taste, but that is not the most commonly used type in bait is it as it's way more expensive. It is what I use if I ever have to preserve anything(but prefer fresh bait). Over the years i have probably purchased several thousand litres from various places and Mpg has a distinctive chemical taste and smell that taints bait. That is why the best bait companies modify it with sweetners and liquids to cover it up! I have baf one in my hand right now. Smells like chemicals taste like it too! Remember there are several grades of mpg!
In reply to Post #28
If i use potassium sorbate, i use 0.3% (3gram for a kilo)
If i use potassium sorbate, i use 0.3% (3gram for a kilo)