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winter bait (26 posts / 4,313 views)
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #16 15 Oct 2020 12:09
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" bits of crap being included"

You can actually make a good bait better
Was Richworths original TF basemix a 50/50 or 3-way split ?
Smurf Smurf
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Post #17 15 Oct 2020 12:23
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I did better on other baits at the time

Was the original really that good or rose tinted spectacles

If it was so good how come its not so good now? Maybe because the carp have got used to a better diet
bigappleslice bigappleslice
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Post #18 15 Oct 2020 12:27
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''bits of crap''

yeah including ingredients that actually give a rounded diet for mr carp never sounded like a good idea to me either.
Gary76
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Post #19 15 Oct 2020 13:13
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ICI's Pruteen pig feed. Which was discontinued as the pigs didn't like the taste.
TKO-1 TKO-1
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Post #20 15 Oct 2020 13:52
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This is great advice 👍🏻 Although I like to use WPC80 and Calcium in winter / all year around and had great results in doing so.
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #21 15 Oct 2020 13:56
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the pigs didn't like the taste.

They´d happily munch on cadavers
christian
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Post #22 15 Oct 2020 14:26
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A lot of people seem to miss the fact that the early very successful richworth baits were based on putreen and were freezer baits. Originally 50/50 meant 50% protein 50% none protein and not 50% semolina and 50% soya that people understand today.

Since the production of putreen ceased have there baits ever been as successful and have there shelf life baits ever been as effective as the frozen... No they haven't even though later frozen tutti baits were still reasonably effective... And that comment comes from a confirmed flavour user.
scaley&dark
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Post #23 15 Oct 2020 17:32
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With the richworths, the clever use of sweetners took away any bitterness from either the high flavour levels used, and the Pruteen.

So was it just a taste thing with the sweeteners, or a nutritious thing for either protein, or carbs, or a clever combo of all three ?

keeperboy
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Post #24 15 Oct 2020 19:27
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I would also add that richworth tutti were once effective in winter due to the fact that bright orange baits hadn't been done and that carp were under less pressure. Nowadays bright things are often the kiss of death (think bright hookbaits at this stage in the year). I never use sweet corn (I know I'm mental right) because every other angler piles it in. But I do find I'm getting more bites and faster bites by avoiding colour! By the spring it may well have all changed Again


viking
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Post #25 15 Oct 2020 20:52
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Maybe part of it was:
Single cell proteins + loads of sugars + no preservatives = bacteria party
scaley&dark
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Post #26 16 Oct 2020 11:17
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They did ‘liven up' in the right conditions, a few days in the polythene freezer bag, and go sticky or tacky

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