In reply to Post #15
Thanks OJ
The Arun, Rother and Adur all have carp. The Arun in particular is not over fished. It has some very big carp and there's always the chance of a very big barbel. One or two stretches allow night fishing, so bivvying up is not a problem if that's what you want to do. My club is about £80 a year, so a damn sight cheaper than an syndicate too.
Roll on June 16th
Thanks OJ
The Arun, Rother and Adur all have carp. The Arun in particular is not over fished. It has some very big carp and there's always the chance of a very big barbel. One or two stretches allow night fishing, so bivvying up is not a problem if that's what you want to do. My club is about £80 a year, so a damn sight cheaper than an syndicate too.
Roll on June 16th
In reply to Post #16
River carp , now there's a challenge , fantastic when you do actually land one though !
River carp , now there's a challenge , fantastic when you do actually land one though !
In reply to Post #1
Been here felt the same . . .
The answer is to mix it up . . .stop focusing on carp and look to fish for other species / different venues / styles . . .
Whilst the twitch then scream of a buzzer at dusk on a secluded lake of monsters is addictive so is -
1 - Watching a stick float meander downstream to that elusive eddy to be pulled under by a large chub
2 - Waiting for the tips to hoop round on a larger river with a pair of rods fishing for barbel
3 - Sweetcorn in the margin using a pole and hooking into a decent tench / bream / carp
4 - Building a swim on a commercial and using a pellet waggler / slow sinking bomb for a fish a chuck
5 - Keeping mobile whilst spinning for pike with a variety of lures
6 - Fly fishing . . .possibly the ultimate challenge
When you've done all that re-visit the carp lakes and ignore the ****s . . .stay away from opinions / tackle / all the general bs associated with being a 'propa carpa' and you might just enjoy yourself / appreciate it a whole lot more . . .
Been here felt the same . . .
The answer is to mix it up . . .stop focusing on carp and look to fish for other species / different venues / styles . . .
Whilst the twitch then scream of a buzzer at dusk on a secluded lake of monsters is addictive so is -
1 - Watching a stick float meander downstream to that elusive eddy to be pulled under by a large chub
2 - Waiting for the tips to hoop round on a larger river with a pair of rods fishing for barbel
3 - Sweetcorn in the margin using a pole and hooking into a decent tench / bream / carp
4 - Building a swim on a commercial and using a pellet waggler / slow sinking bomb for a fish a chuck
5 - Keeping mobile whilst spinning for pike with a variety of lures
6 - Fly fishing . . .possibly the ultimate challenge
When you've done all that re-visit the carp lakes and ignore the ****s . . .stay away from opinions / tackle / all the general bs associated with being a 'propa carpa' and you might just enjoy yourself / appreciate it a whole lot more . . .
In reply to Post #18
Kids will be kids, whether they have a mental age of 8 like the Nash 'team', the handful of nobs on every water or the avaricious crew at Korda. Just like the videos with load Blairing music, you know within seconds who to turn your back on. Life's too short. Find your place and don't be fooled into thinking everyone is like them. They certainly aren't.
Kids will be kids, whether they have a mental age of 8 like the Nash 'team', the handful of nobs on every water or the avaricious crew at Korda. Just like the videos with load Blairing music, you know within seconds who to turn your back on. Life's too short. Find your place and don't be fooled into thinking everyone is like them. They certainly aren't.
People are products of their environment. Some may have alcohol or recreational drug problems, some talk with an accent you don't like and so on.
I find superiority complexes more offensive and making assumptions about others based on music preference and social skills.
Sometimes wish DF and the other usual targets would come on here and tell people to **** off.
Funny how Hearn and Fairbrass can use the same phrases but only one is chastised for it
I find superiority complexes more offensive and making assumptions about others based on music preference and social skills.
Sometimes wish DF and the other usual targets would come on here and tell people to **** off.
Funny how Hearn and Fairbrass can use the same phrases but only one is chastised for it
Theres just as many knobs in fishing as there are in most walks of life. As said a lot depends on the venues. I fish club waters and I find some of the older generation can be just as irritating, albeit from a different way. By all means post on a public forum to have a rant, but to then name a high profile angler in the same post as cocaine use is not on. Interesting you say noj about hearn/fairbrass. I suppose one has a God like status (as far as it can be in fishing terms) and the other has a higher profile media type status.
In reply to Post #1
Do tell how you know they are blatant cocaine users
Do tell how you know they are blatant cocaine users
You're all quite right in that I shouldn't generalise and having a pop at DF isn't fair. I'm a great fan of what he's done for carp fishing as a whole and his branding and what he's done for the image of the sport is certainly a feat.
It's difficult to do without naming, but my reason for pointing the finger in that general direction, was on several fishing trips with the same group of people, who regularly fish with the Korda crew, were very keen to point out that (I won't name names) "such and such loves a pill" or "such and such always comes prepared with a couple of grams when we go to bank".
This isn't confirmed and is little more than hearsay. But the people I went on these trips with were sponsored anglers, who moved in those particular circles.
As for themselves? Lets just say being on a coach for 10 hours with packets and snorting for it's entirety, there's no doubt in my mind that I know they were "blatant cocaine users". Aside from this group, I've witnessed it on the banks, in peoples bivvies when walking past and even in a tackle shop.
It's difficult to do without naming, but my reason for pointing the finger in that general direction, was on several fishing trips with the same group of people, who regularly fish with the Korda crew, were very keen to point out that (I won't name names) "such and such loves a pill" or "such and such always comes prepared with a couple of grams when we go to bank".
This isn't confirmed and is little more than hearsay. But the people I went on these trips with were sponsored anglers, who moved in those particular circles.
As for themselves? Lets just say being on a coach for 10 hours with packets and snorting for it's entirety, there's no doubt in my mind that I know they were "blatant cocaine users". Aside from this group, I've witnessed it on the banks, in peoples bivvies when walking past and even in a tackle shop.
In reply to Post #17
I used to frequent the River Wye once a year (Lower Canon Bridge) and had so much fun with the fight the Barbel used to put up!
I used to frequent the River Wye once a year (Lower Canon Bridge) and had so much fun with the fight the Barbel used to put up!
In reply to Post #18
Top post, Chris. You've put it in a nutshell. I am still having a few on those floats you put me on to. Many thanks for that!
Top post, Chris. You've put it in a nutshell. I am still having a few on those floats you put me on to. Many thanks for that!
In reply to Post #23
Why did you keep going on these trips with these loud, boozy and blatant cocaine users with their wide-boy attitude, being loud, abrasive and general condescending attitude? Why didn't you just stop going mate?
I've been to Cherpont a couple of times and I thought it was lovely. But I went with mates.
Why did you keep going on these trips with these loud, boozy and blatant cocaine users with their wide-boy attitude, being loud, abrasive and general condescending attitude? Why didn't you just stop going mate?
I've been to Cherpont a couple of times and I thought it was lovely. But I went with mates.
In reply to Post #23
Substance abuse, (be it drugs or alcohol) has always gone on in Carp circles, you only have to read books from various well known an respected anglers to know it's not something new..
Substance abuse, (be it drugs or alcohol) has always gone on in Carp circles, you only have to read books from various well known an respected anglers to know it's not something new..
In reply to Post #1
I have a simple answer, I keep to myself.
It may cost me fish being round the opposite side of the lake or on somewhere quieter away from the 'party animals', but I fish for myself.
I avoid circuit waters or areas where these party animals are.
I rarely drink when I'm fishing, and definitely avoid other substances after a tearaway youth life that meant me and others had to pick up the pieces.
I have split up with two ex's, long term relationships, both with kids involved, and one that got especially nasty.
I have had long talks with my children, about my life, they know what has happened in my past.
Fishing was my return to sanity, most definitely.
I also don't fish exclusively for carp, I enjoy trips fishing for chub, roach, pike and because of that I can pick and choose my venues.
Thing is this alcohol and drug using attitude is not just in fishing, I think it is society as a whole. I've been running hotels, pubs, bars etc for over 20 years, on and off, mostly on, and almost every wedding I end up having to eject a toilet ' sniffer'. Every week in the pool and snooker club, at least one ejected and barred for drug use.
Binge drinking, every week someone ejected for being over the odds of alcohol.
I have a simple answer, I keep to myself.
It may cost me fish being round the opposite side of the lake or on somewhere quieter away from the 'party animals', but I fish for myself.
I avoid circuit waters or areas where these party animals are.
I rarely drink when I'm fishing, and definitely avoid other substances after a tearaway youth life that meant me and others had to pick up the pieces.
I have split up with two ex's, long term relationships, both with kids involved, and one that got especially nasty.
I have had long talks with my children, about my life, they know what has happened in my past.
Fishing was my return to sanity, most definitely.
I also don't fish exclusively for carp, I enjoy trips fishing for chub, roach, pike and because of that I can pick and choose my venues.
Thing is this alcohol and drug using attitude is not just in fishing, I think it is society as a whole. I've been running hotels, pubs, bars etc for over 20 years, on and off, mostly on, and almost every wedding I end up having to eject a toilet ' sniffer'. Every week in the pool and snooker club, at least one ejected and barred for drug use.
Binge drinking, every week someone ejected for being over the odds of alcohol.
In reply to Post #28
See my posts on the nick Helleur thread about chefs and drugs, it's rife even worse in London
See my posts on the nick Helleur thread about chefs and drugs, it's rife even worse in London
In reply to Post #29
I know two chefs and they both love the beak
*neither are anglers I'll add.
I know two chefs and they both love the beak
*neither are anglers I'll add.