In reply to Post #180
But we don't know the route cause do we ?
All I see on this thread is Tory bashing and waiting for the next snippet from the tabloids.
But we don't know the route cause do we ?
All I see on this thread is Tory bashing and waiting for the next snippet from the tabloids.
In reply to Post #179
I honestly believe that more fossil fuels will not reduce prices or fuel poverty.
It will just increase company profits and continue the current problem.
Based entirely on the evidence of fuel and energy companies behaviour so far and government refusal to act in the best interests of the majority of people
I think that's as clear an answer as possible to what you're asking.
I honestly believe that more fossil fuels will not reduce prices or fuel poverty.
It will just increase company profits and continue the current problem.
Based entirely on the evidence of fuel and energy companies behaviour so far and government refusal to act in the best interests of the majority of people
I think that's as clear an answer as possible to what you're asking.
In reply to Post #182
The Germans seem to be splitting the electricity market along the lines of those that use gas to generate and those that don't. Taxing excess profits on the ones that don't use gas on the grounds that the coupling of prices is coincidental. Putting billions into tax relief schemes for heavy manufacturing, cheap fixed €9 a month local transport for workers and various support for pensioners, students etc.
€95 billion package without borrowing or increasing personal taxation.
Liz Truss on TV this morning promised her plan within a week and needs to get it right.
#181 I don't see much Tory bashing on this thread mate. Feel free to defend the poor buggers if you feel they're getting an unjustified hard time.
The Germans seem to be splitting the electricity market along the lines of those that use gas to generate and those that don't. Taxing excess profits on the ones that don't use gas on the grounds that the coupling of prices is coincidental. Putting billions into tax relief schemes for heavy manufacturing, cheap fixed €9 a month local transport for workers and various support for pensioners, students etc.
€95 billion package without borrowing or increasing personal taxation.
Liz Truss on TV this morning promised her plan within a week and needs to get it right.
#181 I don't see much Tory bashing on this thread mate. Feel free to defend the poor buggers if you feel they're getting an unjustified hard time.
In reply to Post #183
There's been loads of tory bashing on the news and TV recently.
That Sunak fella has had a right go at them and their handling of the pandemic. And the lass who does the rubbish Thatcher impersonation... liz something... you should hear her criticising the former tory chancellor...
There's been loads of tory bashing on the news and TV recently.
That Sunak fella has had a right go at them and their handling of the pandemic. And the lass who does the rubbish Thatcher impersonation... liz something... you should hear her criticising the former tory chancellor...
In reply to Post #179
My personal opinion is that we've “painted ourselves into a corner” as it were, so I don't believe we've much of a choice other than to use more fossil fuel in the short term. However I would be surprised if prices came down significantly either way.
Remember most of our energy companies are not British owned so can we expect any favours from them?
Realistically I believe the best we can hope for is that our supply will be maintained with some help from fossil fuels.
Energy prices tend to be heavily influenced by the most expensive energy source, certainly if a significant amount comes from an expensive source then prices would need to allow for any extra used from that source. Presumably there is a base level of use from renewables and cheap sources so any extra will need to be produced from that higher priced source. Perhaps a tariff for all domestic users that rises with quantity to penalise extravagant use would make sense.
I agree nuclear will almost certainly play a big part in our future energy supplies, right or wrong, its controllable and relatively clean until decommissioning unless there is a problem of course.
My personal opinion is that we've “painted ourselves into a corner” as it were, so I don't believe we've much of a choice other than to use more fossil fuel in the short term. However I would be surprised if prices came down significantly either way.
Remember most of our energy companies are not British owned so can we expect any favours from them?
Realistically I believe the best we can hope for is that our supply will be maintained with some help from fossil fuels.
Energy prices tend to be heavily influenced by the most expensive energy source, certainly if a significant amount comes from an expensive source then prices would need to allow for any extra used from that source. Presumably there is a base level of use from renewables and cheap sources so any extra will need to be produced from that higher priced source. Perhaps a tariff for all domestic users that rises with quantity to penalise extravagant use would make sense.
I agree nuclear will almost certainly play a big part in our future energy supplies, right or wrong, its controllable and relatively clean until decommissioning unless there is a problem of course.
In reply to Post #181
just waiting for an expert, know eny
just waiting for an expert, know eny
In reply to Post #182
Fossil fuel is dead, peak oil was a long time ago. See the latest Shell advert, renewables, the super power as well as others are on their arse and they know it, where will they pump their money now? Just imagine when Saudi is a dust land of the past and they can't control **** all
Fossil fuel is dead, peak oil was a long time ago. See the latest Shell advert, renewables, the super power as well as others are on their arse and they know it, where will they pump their money now? Just imagine when Saudi is a dust land of the past and they can't control **** all
In reply to Post #187
'Fossil fuel is dead' .....
Post of the year.
'Fossil fuel is dead' .....
Post of the year.
Having not been active for a few days it seems there are a few points that need to be made to challenge the ideas that green energy isn't as 'green' as its claimed to be.
Firstly, there is an obvious carbon cost to making the actual equipment, and the subsequent disposal of broken parts. Whilst it Is true that they will currently be produced by burning fossil fuels, the energy that they create will in turn be used in some capacity for the manufacturing of future renewables. I don't personally think that anyone is saying that they are a golden bullet, but its better than what the current options as far as net carbon neutrality goes. The building of green energy production will propagate the production of more materials to generate more energy in a cyclic manor.
Its worth noting that early adoption of technology is enormously beneficial for development of future technology. As someone pointed out, the technology for recycling of carbon fibre is not YET currently available, but it is possible. Its also worth pointing out at this point that in the last ten years, the efficiency of solar module efficiency has increased by 30% (from roughly 14% to 20%) and the loss of solar PV in a panel has reduced by 80%. More shockingly, the efficiency from the early 2000s was around 2%. So in 20 years, we have increased the efficiency of solar energy of almost 10 fold.
If investment is pushed into green energy, the technological advancement could be phenomenal and immeasurably beneficial for future generations, and I think that this is the duty of everyone alive to push the future wellbeing of our children, and their children to the forefront of our lives.
Finally, when it comes to the decision of wether or not to use fossil fuels, I think its worth baring in mind that there are some things that we simply cannot get from any other source. Obviously the fractions of crude oil that are used in fuel can be replaced with greener forms of energy, but other fractions of fuel, particularly those that make certain plastics and other synthetics are currently not available by other means. Our consumption of plastics and their environmental impacts =, for example leaching into the food chain are actually terrifying. I don't currently have a broad enough knowledge base to know anything about potential replacements for these distillates, but if anyone knows of some future tech that could be used to replace these id like to hear about them?
So unfortunately as far as I know, we will still be using crude oil for an awful long time...
Firstly, there is an obvious carbon cost to making the actual equipment, and the subsequent disposal of broken parts. Whilst it Is true that they will currently be produced by burning fossil fuels, the energy that they create will in turn be used in some capacity for the manufacturing of future renewables. I don't personally think that anyone is saying that they are a golden bullet, but its better than what the current options as far as net carbon neutrality goes. The building of green energy production will propagate the production of more materials to generate more energy in a cyclic manor.
Its worth noting that early adoption of technology is enormously beneficial for development of future technology. As someone pointed out, the technology for recycling of carbon fibre is not YET currently available, but it is possible. Its also worth pointing out at this point that in the last ten years, the efficiency of solar module efficiency has increased by 30% (from roughly 14% to 20%) and the loss of solar PV in a panel has reduced by 80%. More shockingly, the efficiency from the early 2000s was around 2%. So in 20 years, we have increased the efficiency of solar energy of almost 10 fold.
If investment is pushed into green energy, the technological advancement could be phenomenal and immeasurably beneficial for future generations, and I think that this is the duty of everyone alive to push the future wellbeing of our children, and their children to the forefront of our lives.
Finally, when it comes to the decision of wether or not to use fossil fuels, I think its worth baring in mind that there are some things that we simply cannot get from any other source. Obviously the fractions of crude oil that are used in fuel can be replaced with greener forms of energy, but other fractions of fuel, particularly those that make certain plastics and other synthetics are currently not available by other means. Our consumption of plastics and their environmental impacts =, for example leaching into the food chain are actually terrifying. I don't currently have a broad enough knowledge base to know anything about potential replacements for these distillates, but if anyone knows of some future tech that could be used to replace these id like to hear about them?
So unfortunately as far as I know, we will still be using crude oil for an awful long time...
In reply to Post #188
Well he is correct it's from dead matter 😀
We have a few dinosaurs on this thread in need of meeting an asteroid .
In Liz we truss 😀👍🏼
You know that price cap is coming 🤞
Well he is correct it's from dead matter 😀
We have a few dinosaurs on this thread in need of meeting an asteroid .
In Liz we truss 😀👍🏼
You know that price cap is coming 🤞
In reply to Post #190
In reply to Post #190
haha, good one.
They're already sending letters to the 1922 committee.
haha, good one.
They're already sending letters to the 1922 committee.
In reply to Post #165
The head of OVO worth's a read????
Whilst he's busy lining his own pockets.......
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1664829/Martin-Lewis-clash-OVO-energy-boss-GMB
The head of OVO worth's a read????
Whilst he's busy lining his own pockets.......
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1664829/Martin-Lewis-clash-OVO-energy-boss-GMB
February Putin put his nuclear arms at high level alert because of a statement made by Liz Truss. Seven months later Liz Truss is announced the UK's new PM 😂
In reply to Post #194
Good on Liz.
If labour were in power we'd be saying comrade now 😀
Good on Liz.
If labour were in power we'd be saying comrade now 😀