Should I be using raw or roasted peanuts when using them for carp bait? They will be soaked and boiled, but I am wonder which is the preferred type. Is there a reason one is preferred over the other?
In reply to Post #1
Imo roasted peanuts are perfect used straight from the bag as a hookbait only. Fished over a small bed of boiled standard nuts works very well. The roasted will stand out much more and tend to picked up pretty quickly.
Imo roasted peanuts are perfect used straight from the bag as a hookbait only. Fished over a small bed of boiled standard nuts works very well. The roasted will stand out much more and tend to picked up pretty quickly.
In reply to Post #1
buy raw, shelled nuts from a pet food supplier, soak & boil - they are much cheaper than the roasted / salted ones you get in the supermarket
buy raw, shelled nuts from a pet food supplier, soak & boil - they are much cheaper than the roasted / salted ones you get in the supermarket
In reply to Post #3
I would buy food grade nuts from Amazon , bird peanuts can contain aflatoxin.
I would buy food grade nuts from Amazon , bird peanuts can contain aflatoxin.
In reply to Post #4
No difference these days between food quality and animal feed with peanuts these days. There all treated for Alfatoxins.
No difference these days between food quality and animal feed with peanuts these days. There all treated for Alfatoxins.
In reply to Post #5
Seeing as they colour sort the peanuts to remove the aflatoxin using complex vision systems in the food industry , I would be surprised if they are allowed to use fungicides in their process due to the possible toxicity problems Involved.
It's only possible to see a small percentage of aflatoxin in peanuts with the human eye , they use UV lights to cause a fluorescent effect for removal of the peanuts containing aflatoxins.
They do not use colour sorters for animal grade peanuts , hence I have no idea how they are removing the Aflatoxin.
I would suggest to everyone that they use food grade peanuts for fishing conditions , they are a bit more expensive then animal grade in large quantities but you can guarantee the aflatoxin levels are greatly reduced.
Seeing as they colour sort the peanuts to remove the aflatoxin using complex vision systems in the food industry , I would be surprised if they are allowed to use fungicides in their process due to the possible toxicity problems Involved.
It's only possible to see a small percentage of aflatoxin in peanuts with the human eye , they use UV lights to cause a fluorescent effect for removal of the peanuts containing aflatoxins.
They do not use colour sorters for animal grade peanuts , hence I have no idea how they are removing the Aflatoxin.
I would suggest to everyone that they use food grade peanuts for fishing conditions , they are a bit more expensive then animal grade in large quantities but you can guarantee the aflatoxin levels are greatly reduced.
In reply to Post #4
There is another solution to drastically remove the aflatoxin from peanuts and that is to roast or microwave them. Roasted nuts used in nut butters have a much smaller ppm of aflatoxins compared with the raw unblanched peanuts.
There is another solution to drastically remove the aflatoxin from peanuts and that is to roast or microwave them. Roasted nuts used in nut butters have a much smaller ppm of aflatoxins compared with the raw unblanched peanuts.
In reply to Post #6
Yet they are and have to have the certification on import.
Yet they are and have to have the certification on import.
In reply to Post #8
If you buy American peanuts you are almost guaranteed that the Aflatoxin is at a acceptable level however the cheaper peanuts come from Asia and Africa where their quality control for aflatoxin is virtually non existent.
Yes some packets of bird grade peanuts say aflatoxin approved or checked , but the vast majority of them do not. It's only the larger brands in the UK that test for aflatoxin.
If you buy American peanuts you are almost guaranteed that the Aflatoxin is at a acceptable level however the cheaper peanuts come from Asia and Africa where their quality control for aflatoxin is virtually non existent.
Yes some packets of bird grade peanuts say aflatoxin approved or checked , but the vast majority of them do not. It's only the larger brands in the UK that test for aflatoxin.
In reply to Post #9
But what about the import regulations and requirements? Are you saying it's not being followed? Border control are checking and letting through peanuts with toxic levels of aflatoxin in?
FSA info here
But what about the import regulations and requirements? Are you saying it's not being followed? Border control are checking and letting through peanuts with toxic levels of aflatoxin in?
FSA info here
afloxins aren't just present in peanuts - they can be found in any seed or grain including hemp, pigeon conditioner, barley & maize & come about due to bad storage practices. (check out Salem witch trials for the effects of them)
The risks around them are related to human poisoning more than carp poisoning & I have never heard of a single case of afloxin-related illness in a carp angler or fish in over 40 years of carp fishing.
The risks around them are related to human poisoning more than carp poisoning & I have never heard of a single case of afloxin-related illness in a carp angler or fish in over 40 years of carp fishing.
In reply to Post #11
And when it comes to carp eating them, are they, um, animals?
And when it comes to carp eating them, are they, um, animals?
In reply to Post #11
Yes you are right Aflatoxin can become prominent in poor storage conditions , but as only parts of the sack of peanuts become infected it's very difficult to trace.
You would not know if a carp had died from aflatoxin poisoning as they don't perform post mortems on every carp that dies.
Yes you are right Aflatoxin can become prominent in poor storage conditions , but as only parts of the sack of peanuts become infected it's very difficult to trace.
You would not know if a carp had died from aflatoxin poisoning as they don't perform post mortems on every carp that dies.
In reply to Post #11
The risks around them are related to human poisoning more than carp poisoning & I have never heard of a single case of afloxin-related illness in a carp angler or fish in over 40 years of carp fishing.
I don't think it will ever be proven, but didn't Benson die potentially due to uncooked nuts?
I believe the owner said they found the baits in margins of the lake.
The risks around them are related to human poisoning more than carp poisoning & I have never heard of a single case of afloxin-related illness in a carp angler or fish in over 40 years of carp fishing.
I don't think it will ever be proven, but didn't Benson die potentially due to uncooked nuts?
I believe the owner said they found the baits in margins of the lake.
I get a kilo of fine, oily, salted peanuts here at the supermarket for 3,18 euro. 25kg of animal grade with membrane go for 50 euro. A bit cheaper, but imo the supermarket ones are miles ahead, like a different league. Also saves a lot of preparing, easy with pva etc etc. Overall fish seem to agree with it.