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Carp Sacks (33 posts / 4,262 views)
coolcarpfisher coolcarpfisher
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Post #1 2 Nov 2020 16:45
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Does anyone use Sacks anymore for rataining? Ive found an old Chub one in the shed. Wondered if anyone would want it or shall I just Bin it? Most places have banned them now havn't they?
darkoL darkoL
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Post #2 2 Nov 2020 16:53
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In reply to Post #1
I prefer sacks as they let the fish decide where they want to be when resting... not all fish want to be on top. I do however have float attached for just in case, it can happen to anyone.
ip100 ip100
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Post #3 2 Nov 2020 18:57
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In reply to Post #1
Bin it. There is no need whatsoever to retain fish for more than a few minutes to get the camera etc ready, the technology nowadays means you can get great night shots. And a floating Retainer is the best thing for doing the job
Lostagudun
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Post #4 2 Nov 2020 20:30
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Never been a fan of sacking, have seen a friend retain a prize fish from an hard water some 15 years ago.
Retained it over night in a sack ready for the next morning stills. Till this day he does not understand how it happened, but he could not find the carp or the sack.
The whole scenario still haunts him at times.
As I only do days, not found the need even for a flotation sling.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #5 2 Nov 2020 20:54
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In reply to Post #3
I agree completely with this, like said there is no need at all to keep them now
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #6 2 Nov 2020 21:07
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Threw my old Nashy sack with the silver lining away twenty years ago ..

i dont use a retainer either,as i dont want one...im not desperate for a photo of a carp,i have enough..what i do photograph are mat or handheld pics of nice perch,and today i was lucky with a lovely 3lb.12oz and 3lb .8oz and seven others on chopped prrawns...good times...

Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
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Post #7 2 Nov 2020 21:16
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In reply to Post #6
Can't stand them , used them when I was in my teens
I use a retainer sometimes just to give myself time to sort things out
Funny how on tv it's always just before dawn as an excuse
Also photographing fish has become a joke , both sides and front
Then put the vass waders on and get the shot in the water
Try doing that all while holding your breath😂
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
Posts: 314
Post #8 2 Nov 2020 21:20
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In reply to Post #7
Just read below , couldn't find it , flipping hell🤮
Heard of a few losing their tickets for breaking this rule👍🏻
bluebeat13
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Post #9 2 Nov 2020 22:16
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In reply to Post #6
Show us the pics! Would be good to have a something positive to look at!
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #10 2 Nov 2020 23:53
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In reply to Post #9
i`d be genuinely honoured to put my pics up,however i have no idea how to go about getting them off my smart phone,and putting em up..on the forum..

what made these captures special is all i have caught from this place ,perch wise is just smaallens,so it was very satisfying to know they got to this size..i also had a nice mid double common ,i use a 13ft four piece match rod,centrepin,five lb maxima ,to 14 hook,handtied spade end

i fish the prawns cut down like a massive maggot ,hooked on the end ,not the middle...was a great sess..not much beats float fishing using a centrepin on an old manor house lake,and being the only soul there...
yonny yonny
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Post #11 3 Nov 2020 07:32
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In reply to Post #1
Both sacks and retainers are safe if used sensibly imo.
darkoL darkoL
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Post #12 3 Nov 2020 07:39
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In reply to Post #3
yes there is... been lucky enough to fish some crystal clear lakes and many many times I have seen big fish swim of strong and than after 10m lay down on the bottom on its side and recover for more than 1h... retaining fish for me has got little to do with photos...
yonny yonny
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Post #13 3 Nov 2020 08:08
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In reply to Post #12
I have fished waters on which it is a rule that you HAVE TO retain fish for at least 15 mins.

There is a place for sacks and retainers imo. As usual it's idiots misusing them that gives the equipment a bad name.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #14 3 Nov 2020 08:48
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In reply to Post #13
Do you mean land fish, weigh, photo and retain for 15 minutes before letting it go
Or land fish, retain for 15 minutes to regain strength, restress it by weighing and photoing with the extra danger caused by the fish having regained strength

If you're well organised you can do the first one quickly without retaining but can't see any harm in doing so if you have the depth of water.
The second one I don't understand.
yonny yonny
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Post #15 3 Nov 2020 09:03
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In reply to Post #14
The rule was retain for at least 15 mins prior to photos to let the fish recover a little.

I can see the logic in the rule. Giving the fish a little break to recover in prep for it's visit to the bank. But I also see your point regards re-stressing.

I think we have to be careful when discussing stress. I mean, look at what we do to them lol. There are pros and cons for resting vs. getting it all out of the way quickly.
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