Are any of you baiting up with a long handle baiting spoon for boilies?
I'm doing a few boilie only venue sessions next year that get the guls bad! Rather than catty or stick i like the idea of slinging volumes out with a long handled spoon. - gardner, nash and fox do one but I can't see many reviews.
Is anyone getting decent spread and range out with these? What kind of distance are you getting with what sized baits?
I'm doing a few boilie only venue sessions next year that get the guls bad! Rather than catty or stick i like the idea of slinging volumes out with a long handled spoon. - gardner, nash and fox do one but I can't see many reviews.
Is anyone getting decent spread and range out with these? What kind of distance are you getting with what sized baits?
In reply to Post #1
A large scruffy Bob pouch and heavy elastic on a large catty will get you 30-40 yds with a big handful of 16mm boilies, gulls won't know what's going on.
I think the loading of a baiting spoon with boilies might be a faff.
A large scruffy Bob pouch and heavy elastic on a large catty will get you 30-40 yds with a big handful of 16mm boilies, gulls won't know what's going on.
I think the loading of a baiting spoon with boilies might be a faff.
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I've an ancient Zebco fibreglass landing net handle and spoon and it's very stiff to compress. The spread is wide but distance is mediocre at best. Up to 40 yards is achievable. Perhaps with better flex more accuracy is gained but landing net poles need to have rigidity. Another business opportunity for Korda ?
I've an ancient Zebco fibreglass landing net handle and spoon and it's very stiff to compress. The spread is wide but distance is mediocre at best. Up to 40 yards is achievable. Perhaps with better flex more accuracy is gained but landing net poles need to have rigidity. Another business opportunity for Korda ?
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I haven't used one of these, so this isn't a recommendation, just me thinking out loud.
Nash Dot Spod Air.
Opens up when it hits the clip, flinging the bait 'further'.
Benefits:
1 - ?!Apparently!? you can alter the spread of bait depending how you cast
2 - The spod falls short of the fishing spot to cause less disturbance to your spot (some might not care if the spomb is a 'dinner bell' on their water)
I haven't used one of these, so this isn't a recommendation, just me thinking out loud.
Nash Dot Spod Air.
Opens up when it hits the clip, flinging the bait 'further'.
Benefits:
1 - ?!Apparently!? you can alter the spread of bait depending how you cast
2 - The spod falls short of the fishing spot to cause less disturbance to your spot (some might not care if the spomb is a 'dinner bell' on their water)
In reply to Post #4
A tone got any experience using these at distance?
A tone got any experience using these at distance?
Korda did a video years ago
Danny used what he called a hand of god
I think it was one of the Walthamstow ones but I honestly can't remember.
Danny used what he called a hand of god
I think it was one of the Walthamstow ones but I honestly can't remember.
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A lad I know uses a "Scoop" on a landing net handle and can chuck them a good distance and can put 5 KG out in no time and spreads them all over.
But, due to circumstances at the moment, I don't know when I will see him again to find out what make it is.
I bought a scoop many years ago and was using it on a short bankstick and snapped it. But, I cannot recall what make it was. I have a feeling though it could have been a Gardner one, but, it was that many years ago that if they were snapping then, they will have improved them by now
A lad I know uses a "Scoop" on a landing net handle and can chuck them a good distance and can put 5 KG out in no time and spreads them all over.
But, due to circumstances at the moment, I don't know when I will see him again to find out what make it is.
I bought a scoop many years ago and was using it on a short bankstick and snapped it. But, I cannot recall what make it was. I have a feeling though it could have been a Gardner one, but, it was that many years ago that if they were snapping then, they will have improved them by now
In reply to Post #4
I bought one of these.
Total rubbish, bait everywhere, random opening, or not opening at all.
I bought one of these.
Total rubbish, bait everywhere, random opening, or not opening at all.
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I use them all the time for particles.
I had an original orange cobra spoon for over 25 years that finally died after I trod on it. I now use one of the green gardner spoons which is pretty much an exact copy of the cobra. The plastic may be different but no issues so far.
I use a rigid 6ft pole which serves me well but have used slightly longer poles that have a bit of flex & they definitely get the bait out further.
you can get a lot of bait out very quickly with them - best method is an overhead whack, just like you're casting. get a couple of the quick release bankstick adapters (NGT do them) for the spoon. I have one on my pole & another on a short handle & it makes it really easy to switch them around.
I use them all the time for particles.
I had an original orange cobra spoon for over 25 years that finally died after I trod on it. I now use one of the green gardner spoons which is pretty much an exact copy of the cobra. The plastic may be different but no issues so far.
I use a rigid 6ft pole which serves me well but have used slightly longer poles that have a bit of flex & they definitely get the bait out further.
you can get a lot of bait out very quickly with them - best method is an overhead whack, just like you're casting. get a couple of the quick release bankstick adapters (NGT do them) for the spoon. I have one on my pole & another on a short handle & it makes it really easy to switch them around.
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That's useful to know thanks (so I don't invest!)
If they'd have worked as advertised I think they would be great.
That's useful to know thanks (so I don't invest!)
If they'd have worked as advertised I think they would be great.
In reply to Post #7
@Zack: Could it have been cobra? I think I have an old one kicking around somewhere from 30 years ago
When I say Cobra, I am talking about 'ye olde' days....before Nash bought them out more recently
@Zack: Could it have been cobra? I think I have an old one kicking around somewhere from 30 years ago
When I say Cobra, I am talking about 'ye olde' days....before Nash bought them out more recently
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They seem to be a copy of the TFG air bomb that was released years ago. That was always a bit hit and miss but a great idea in principle so if someone could nail it they would be on to a winner
They seem to be a copy of the TFG air bomb that was released years ago. That was always a bit hit and miss but a great idea in principle so if someone could nail it they would be on to a winner
Used the Cobra scoop and others. A 2ltr coke bottle cut to shape is better. Cut off the bottom, cut off the side of the first two thirds leave the last third near screw top untouched, use a bit of camo tape to stiffen up and screw to pole of choice, far more accurate and better distance.
I have the Gardner one with the handle which I think is 6ft, works up to 12 wraps, maybe 15 if your fitter than me, with big baits. I used it to defeat the gulls. It works but is hard work and pretty indiscriminate, i used it to bait to an island margin, did the job, but put quite a few baits on the island .
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The TF Gear air bomb works a lot better than the nash version i tried the nash version and binned it of after one use found it absolute crap compared to the TF air bomb . Which is much better been using that one for a few years now on one of the 4 acre lakes i fish spombing sweetcorn out gives a nice spread
The TF Gear air bomb works a lot better than the nash version i tried the nash version and binned it of after one use found it absolute crap compared to the TF air bomb . Which is much better been using that one for a few years now on one of the 4 acre lakes i fish spombing sweetcorn out gives a nice spread
In reply to Post #14
Baiting up this way is individual like golf clubs, a 6ft pole on a 6ft 3 bloke doesn't get the same result from a bloke who's 5ft 10, nothing new, loads of bad anglers who can't think outside the box.
Seen loads of anglers with gear they can't control but bought because the mags said they should.
Baiting up this way is individual like golf clubs, a 6ft pole on a 6ft 3 bloke doesn't get the same result from a bloke who's 5ft 10, nothing new, loads of bad anglers who can't think outside the box.
Seen loads of anglers with gear they can't control but bought because the mags said they should.
In reply to Post #16
Of course that's true, however if you've no experience of using any tool you cant judge what it's capable of in your hands.
Like you say we are all built differently, and are of varying degrees of fitness. Shouldn't stop people from trying new ideas though.
Of course that's true, however if you've no experience of using any tool you cant judge what it's capable of in your hands.
Like you say we are all built differently, and are of varying degrees of fitness. Shouldn't stop people from trying new ideas though.
In reply to Post #14
Thanks for all the thoughts all.
My intensions were something like a large pole like the Gardner, Nash or fox, possibly with a bit of compression in it so it can whip a spoon around overhead cast wise and then match with a suitable scoop end - the Nash deliverance ones look alright.
If I can get 20-30 baits out up to 60 yds/15 wraps per sling and the birds only snag 1 or 2 then that would be great.... get in a rhythm and thats easy 100 baits in a minute.
I was wondering how much of a knack and how consistent it might be from peoples' experiences - it sounds like its one where you just have to try!
The Dot spods - yes, I heard they were a bit inconsistent - great idea but maybe the execution makes it more frustrating that the problem it solves.
Thanks for all the thoughts all.
My intensions were something like a large pole like the Gardner, Nash or fox, possibly with a bit of compression in it so it can whip a spoon around overhead cast wise and then match with a suitable scoop end - the Nash deliverance ones look alright.
If I can get 20-30 baits out up to 60 yds/15 wraps per sling and the birds only snag 1 or 2 then that would be great.... get in a rhythm and thats easy 100 baits in a minute.
I was wondering how much of a knack and how consistent it might be from peoples' experiences - it sounds like its one where you just have to try!
The Dot spods - yes, I heard they were a bit inconsistent - great idea but maybe the execution makes it more frustrating that the problem it solves.
In reply to Post #18
If you want speed, keep your baits in a bag on the ground and just turn, dig out a scoop and let fly.
If you want speed, keep your baits in a bag on the ground and just turn, dig out a scoop and let fly.
In reply to Post #18
another little tip is that i find the baits go further with an underfilled spoon. only fill it half way seems to be the best of both worlds.
a bit like using a pouch catapult - less is more when it comes to getting accuracy & distance.
another little tip is that i find the baits go further with an underfilled spoon. only fill it half way seems to be the best of both worlds.
a bit like using a pouch catapult - less is more when it comes to getting accuracy & distance.
In reply to Post #18
Watch Jim Lightfoot's YouTube channel, he has some good tips on using a baiting scoop.
Watch Jim Lightfoot's YouTube channel, he has some good tips on using a baiting scoop.
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