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Jag Xcavator/Digging stick Alternative (36 posts / 2,130 views)
charlesrl charlesrl
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Post #1 18 Jun 2023 10:12
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Hi,

Does anyone know of an alternative (that isn't fishing branded) of the Jag Xcavator bank stick/digging stick?

Or does anyone use something different for creating a hole in rock hard ground. Seen others, matrix, cygnet etc but they dont look as good as the Jag one.

Cheers
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #2 18 Jun 2023 10:24
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Defiant MPS
strawberryblond
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Post #3 18 Jun 2023 10:58
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Aqua do/did one
Goose Goose
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Post #4 18 Jun 2023 11:14
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Can't beat an appropriately sized masonry drill bit and battery drill. If no in the words of Tina Turner.
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charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #5 18 Jun 2023 11:24
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Oh ok, can't find it.
Problem is everyone calls them different things
charlesrl charlesrl
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Post #6 18 Jun 2023 11:27
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Thanks for you input.
Looks good, but no disrespect, it doesn't look as good as the jag one (the drilling end) and is near enough the same in cost. It might be better, just going on looks online.

Was hoping there would be something out there that wasn't fishing branded and maybe cheaper.

charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #7 18 Jun 2023 11:28
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I did think that, but don't really want to have to take a drill with me .
May not need it everytime, but some swims on my main water are solid, and rather use sticks than the pod.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #8 18 Jun 2023 13:40
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Baitman Baitman
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Post #9 18 Jun 2023 14:51
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Make a pilot hole with a bivvy peg, then wiggle it about a bit.
Then insert a bankstick that has a screw point to grip the sides of the wiggled out hole.

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duggs
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Post #10 18 Jun 2023 17:29
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A coach screw and ratchet is an upgrade on most of the digging sticks I've had/used/seen.

I had to add a wooden handle to my jag one to get around having to push down hard on a half inch stud of metal in the middle of my palm
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #11 18 Jun 2023 18:04
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Jag one is great especially if you have jag sticks. Pretty cheap as well as far as jag goes and will last for years.
charlesrl charlesrl
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Post #12 18 Jun 2023 18:46
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Thanks guys, I'll have a think.
Looking again at all the options, and for what is easy, it looks like just going for the Jag option despite my choice of title for the thread
RKB
Posts: 1,733
Post #13 19 Jun 2023 08:32
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Is there a practical reason for favouring sticks over a pod?
charlesrl charlesrl
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Post #14 19 Jun 2023 08:47
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Just time saving and tight swims.
RKB
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Post #15 19 Jun 2023 08:52
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I found I saved loads of time just slinging a pod into the swim as opposed to digging holes for 6 sticks - which were never straight or level, nor particularly secure! Horses for courses I suppose.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #16 19 Jun 2023 09:16
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A pod is quicker than sticks imo
Muddy_Hi-Lux Muddy_Hi-Lux
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Post #17 19 Jun 2023 09:43
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A long thick shafted flat head screwdriver.
charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #18 19 Jun 2023 12:13
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Not using 6 sticks. Got alarms on buzzbars and using a T set up.
Beyonce
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Post #19 19 Jun 2023 15:11
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Everyone will have their own ways, but I have also found that using a decent bivvy peg to pilot the hole then wiggling your bank stick in is the best method. I have found the digging sticks to be no better than a decent bank stick and more c**p to carry
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
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Post #20 19 Jun 2023 16:21
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Haven't used sticks for 20+ yrs..........
Solar pod all the way 👌👍
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #21 19 Jun 2023 16:22
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Pods are for God's,sticks are for d....
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #22 19 Jun 2023 16:27
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As much as a pod is easier, and I use mine frequently, it's not always practical if you have to point your rod at your end tackle and are fishing different spots in different directions.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #23 19 Jun 2023 16:33
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Thats a good point,how do you achieve that with sticks and buzzbars though which the op says he's using 🤔
stuart666 stuart666
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Post #24 19 Jun 2023 17:15
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You cant 👍🏻
charlesrl charlesrl
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Post #25 19 Jun 2023 18:01
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Good to see different opinions, even if some of them do make you look a C***
Ive got a fox black label pod, and the bank sticks literally wont drive into the ground, even with a pilot hole from a bivvy peg. The ground literally is solid (stones and rocks).

I love the pod and still use it, just found that screwing in 1 bank stick on each buzz bar, and making 2 holes is quicker than setting the pod up, and having to take apart at the end of a session.
RKB
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Post #26 19 Jun 2023 18:17
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Just leave it set up! There's no way I'd be using a pod if I had to keep building it and taking it apart again, screwing on buzzers etc. Otherwise, you have no other options left, you're just going to have to sit and hold all 3 rods and hope you don't get a double take.
charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #27 19 Jun 2023 18:24
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I leave the alarms on obviously, but then theres four sticks (2 on front and 2 on back) to take apart (goal post style), and the pod base?

How do you leave all that set up and still packed away at the end of a session?
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #28 19 Jun 2023 18:26
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Good way of getting anymore help on here,calling ppl ****s
charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #29 19 Jun 2023 18:27
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Sorry, i forgot calling people D***S was helpful.
Funny world hey.

Enjoy ya fishing
RKB
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Post #30 19 Jun 2023 18:44
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I just flip it upside down, extend it and lay it over whatever is at the top of the barrow - so the alarms are hanging over one side and the back rests on the other side. Then when I fit the bungee cords (as you would do anyway) I make sure it's holding the pod so it doesn't fall off. It's a Jag Super Compact, so 4 sticks and a fairly low central bar. Then in the car, just put stuff on / around it, it doesn't really take up much room, you just need to pack it well.
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #31 19 Jun 2023 18:47
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A throw away comment and clearly a joke and you take it seriously.Gave you probably the best company to get what you were looking for at the start,Keith's gear is some of the best made gear on the market,if the banks are really that bad why scrimp on cost to make your life easier
charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #32 19 Jun 2023 18:48
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To be fair, thats not a bad idea.
Personally I'd be too worried about damaging the pod or alarms but something to consider to save setting/packing down.
charlesrl charlesrl
Posts: 101
Post #33 19 Jun 2023 18:52
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Ok, i probably didn't need to take it literal, but on the flip side, a comment that was pointless, even if it was just a 'throw away comment'. Anyway, no issues, lets move on.

Yes, i agree. Keiths stuff is quality. Seen and used some before.
I was originally looking for something that was the same/similar to the jag thing, that didn't have the carp tax, if such a thing existed. After research, it probably doesn't.
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #34 19 Jun 2023 19:02
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No problem 👍 and for how much we spend on other bits and bobs then something that's made for the job with superb customer service from JAG or Keith is well worth the outlay imo
framey framey
Posts: 5,320
Post #35 19 Jun 2023 19:26
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At a push you can
Take the inner out of the bank stick and insert a drill bit
Tighten up the grip screw and wind it in.
You could grind down a drill bit shank of the correct diameter of your bank sticks for a better solution.
Sometimes just think outside the box
NickGordon NickGordon
Posts: 3,121
Post #36 19 Jun 2023 20:01
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I leave my Delkims and hockey sticks on the buzzers bars and take the pod apart every trip, putting it away back into the bag.

It's only if I need to go single sticks do I take the buzzers off the bars and set them up onto single sticks. At the end of the session, I then remove the buzzers and indicators and put them back in the central pocket of the pod bag.

I have a set of single sticks with 'spare' rear rests already on them.

I must admit, the Solar P1 is easy to take apart and put together again.
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