Thinking of changing my lead set up, has anyone used these before? Are they better than a traditional running rig set up. Should they be fished on slack lines? Any advice would be appreciated
In reply to Post #1
Used them in the past with slack or tight lines but now use a run ring with the thinking anglers C clips.
Used them in the past with slack or tight lines but now use a run ring with the thinking anglers C clips.
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at the Nash one - better solution IMO . . .no friction / lead engagement until the line tightens
Have a look at the Nash one - better solution IMO . . .no friction / lead engagement until the line tightens
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I use the angled drop off run ring from Fox. You can fish these with the lead fixed into the ring with a plug or with a pva plug which dissolves and allows the lead to release if you get weeded/snagged.
You can fish them on a tight line if you like, but they might not be as effective as a fixed lead set up.
They are best used in a slack line set up IMO and I do ok.. I use these for 90% of my fishing. Only switch to fixed leads if fishing @ 90 plus or weed and snag fishing.
I use the angled drop off run ring from Fox. You can fish these with the lead fixed into the ring with a plug or with a pva plug which dissolves and allows the lead to release if you get weeded/snagged.
You can fish them on a tight line if you like, but they might not be as effective as a fixed lead set up.
They are best used in a slack line set up IMO and I do ok.. I use these for 90% of my fishing. Only switch to fixed leads if fishing @ 90 plus or weed and snag fishing.
In reply to Post #4
Think the OP is talking about the new Fox 'running' lead clip which is a lead clip that doesn't lock in the hooklink swivel - its basically in a plug (much like their floater fishing floats) to create an initial soft bolt and then pull free from the clip to create a running rig . . .ie nothing that you can't already create yourself with a standard clip and not as innovative / functional or safe as the Nash one IMO
Think the OP is talking about the new Fox 'running' lead clip which is a lead clip that doesn't lock in the hooklink swivel - its basically in a plug (much like their floater fishing floats) to create an initial soft bolt and then pull free from the clip to create a running rig . . .ie nothing that you can't already create yourself with a standard clip and not as innovative / functional or safe as the Nash one IMO
In reply to Post #4
Can this be fished on a mono mainline? Or could I use a bit of tubing?
Can this be fished on a mono mainline? Or could I use a bit of tubing?
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The nash one seems to lock in place. I can't work out what happens if the fish runs 20 yards and then the clip will lock on a tight line. How do you land the fish?
The nash one seems to lock in place. I can't work out what happens if the fish runs 20 yards and then the clip will lock on a tight line. How do you land the fish?
In reply to Post #7
Haven't seen them but I would assume you'd have a bead set up the line?
Haven't seen them but I would assume you'd have a bead set up the line?
In reply to Post #7
It looks like there is a silicon band that allows the lead to drop? Also not sure how freely that clip would move up the line after it's been sat in silt for 2 days..
Might work great, but too much to go wrong compared to a simple run ring for me.
It looks like there is a silicon band that allows the lead to drop? Also not sure how freely that clip would move up the line after it's been sat in silt for 2 days..
Might work great, but too much to go wrong compared to a simple run ring for me.
In reply to Post #7
Frustrated, if you are lucky:P
Frustrated, if you are lucky:P
In reply to Post #7
Thats a very good question it would be interesting to find out if it can "lock" up the line when playing fish
Thats a very good question it would be interesting to find out if it can "lock" up the line when playing fish
The new thinking tackle I'm sure spooner gets a lead jammed in the eye from a running rig. Have seen it done with inlines on a running set up reason I won't use them.
In reply to Post #5
Yeah.... got that. Just offering a view that if you want to fish slack or semi slack the fox bead is a better option. IMO the running lead clip is a solution to a problem created by tackle companies and overly complicated.
Yeah.... got that. Just offering a view that if you want to fish slack or semi slack the fox bead is a better option. IMO the running lead clip is a solution to a problem created by tackle companies and overly complicated.
In reply to Post #13
How do you set your running rig up? Is it on naked mainline or tubing? Or a leader?
How do you set your running rig up? Is it on naked mainline or tubing? Or a leader?
In reply to Post #12
How does the lead get stuck in an eye?
How does the lead get stuck in an eye?
In reply to Post #7
It's a fair point when you 'visualise' a take - suppose it boils down to whether you're using the set up on mega slack / semi slack lines in the first place and whether you fished locked up / total freespool or not as to how much free line is taken before the lead is 'felt' and line taught / lead semi fixed.
I haven't tested my clips yet but am assuming that unless the lead is dropped intentionally, when the rod is picked up and fully lifted into the 'already hooked' fish there's always a moment of semi slack line between rod tip and lead and that at this point it will simply slide down to the hooklink buffer. This certainly happens when using a Polaris float and / or my own beachcaster set up (similar lock float systems) and these never lock 'up' the line, even when already fished at depths of over 12ft . . .
It's a fair point when you 'visualise' a take - suppose it boils down to whether you're using the set up on mega slack / semi slack lines in the first place and whether you fished locked up / total freespool or not as to how much free line is taken before the lead is 'felt' and line taught / lead semi fixed.
I haven't tested my clips yet but am assuming that unless the lead is dropped intentionally, when the rod is picked up and fully lifted into the 'already hooked' fish there's always a moment of semi slack line between rod tip and lead and that at this point it will simply slide down to the hooklink buffer. This certainly happens when using a Polaris float and / or my own beachcaster set up (similar lock float systems) and these never lock 'up' the line, even when already fished at depths of over 12ft . . .
In reply to Post #12
The exact reason that that stupid nonsense they do crushing the swivel on a lead clip is a death rig. How none of them see this is absolutely beyond me.
The exact reason that that stupid nonsense they do crushing the swivel on a lead clip is a death rig. How none of them see this is absolutely beyond me.
In reply to Post #15
If the fish takes line say 30 yards. Then the lead and clip get caught in weed and stick to the line. when you wind in the lead moves with the line. Next thing you're trying to net a fish with 30 yards of line and the lead in the tip ring. Seen it first hand and had to Wade to help an angler.
Spooners does almost the same by the looks. And if he is using a running lead in snags then that's another massive no
If the fish takes line say 30 yards. Then the lead and clip get caught in weed and stick to the line. when you wind in the lead moves with the line. Next thing you're trying to net a fish with 30 yards of line and the lead in the tip ring. Seen it first hand and had to Wade to help an angler.
Spooners does almost the same by the looks. And if he is using a running lead in snags then that's another massive no
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All I use and no one else does which is bonkers as you know this will out fish any other setup . Indication is ridiculous, harder to deal with, you know even if a carp sniffs at your bait. Most bites line just goes tight. Id say 99% of the time when that alarm beeps its a bite.Those greedy pigs are hung before they even know it and do the off! It's an edge for me being only one on lake using this I am sure of it.
All I use and no one else does which is bonkers as you know this will out fish any other setup . Indication is ridiculous, harder to deal with, you know even if a carp sniffs at your bait. Most bites line just goes tight. Id say 99% of the time when that alarm beeps its a bite.Those greedy pigs are hung before they even know it and do the off! It's an edge for me being only one on lake using this I am sure of it.
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