Morning guys. I currently have a tempest 100 brolly, anyone gone from the nylon version to the aquatexx? My main reason for considering it is the light that the nylon lets through in the summer, but are there any other pros or cons?
Are the accessories interchangeable, like the skull cap?
Are the accessories interchangeable, like the skull cap?
In reply to Post #1
hi so had the tempest brolly mk1 plus wrap for 6 or so years and loved it. My go to overnighter Bivvy. last year I bought the tempest brolly advanced ev aquatexx and have to say the nylon brolly has not been used since.
Main reason was condensation which was pretty bad on the standard brolly plus wrap. the nylon brolly does also let in light but with an overwrap it was fine.
the brolly advanced is super dark and I have bought the nylon cap wrap for the brolly 100 which fits the advanced perfectly.
This on the bivvy massively reduces condensation as it keeps the outer surface of the aquatexx dry and hence it can breath.Also helps with much less effort to dry the bivvy as its only the bottom of the bivvy that get wet in the rain not the whole thing.
Might use the nylon brolly mk1 in peak summer but to be honest very pleased with the purchase and really rate the aquatexx.
It does weigh almost double though!
hi so had the tempest brolly mk1 plus wrap for 6 or so years and loved it. My go to overnighter Bivvy. last year I bought the tempest brolly advanced ev aquatexx and have to say the nylon brolly has not been used since.
Main reason was condensation which was pretty bad on the standard brolly plus wrap. the nylon brolly does also let in light but with an overwrap it was fine.
the brolly advanced is super dark and I have bought the nylon cap wrap for the brolly 100 which fits the advanced perfectly.
This on the bivvy massively reduces condensation as it keeps the outer surface of the aquatexx dry and hence it can breath.Also helps with much less effort to dry the bivvy as its only the bottom of the bivvy that get wet in the rain not the whole thing.
Might use the nylon brolly mk1 in peak summer but to be honest very pleased with the purchase and really rate the aquatexx.
It does weigh almost double though!
1 thing to bear in mind is Aquatex takes longer to dry than Nylon. I have a nylon storm with cap wrap, it's not as dark as Aquatex but it's dark enough for me and far lighter too...... 
In reply to Post #3
agree with the drying time. This why I always use the nylon cap wrap and this gets wet in rain not the bivvy
agree with the drying time. This why I always use the nylon cap wrap and this gets wet in rain not the bivvy
So id probably be better off just using the skull cap wrap through the summer for the light issues?
In reply to Post #5
when I had a tempest the skull cap stayed on permanently
as in hot summer it made it a lot cooler and darker and of course in winter made it warmer and no condensation problems on the roof
In am surprised anyone takes them off ?
when I had a tempest the skull cap stayed on permanently
as in hot summer it made it a lot cooler and darker and of course in winter made it warmer and no condensation problems on the roof
In am surprised anyone takes them off ?
In reply to Post #5
Whilst I'd agree that aquatex is darker this has never been an issue for me . I'm one of the few who prefer the nylon . Aquatex takes an age to dry , nylon is very quick to dry and I don't end up having to dry it out at home .
Whilst I'd agree that aquatex is darker this has never been an issue for me . I'm one of the few who prefer the nylon . Aquatex takes an age to dry , nylon is very quick to dry and I don't end up having to dry it out at home .
In reply to Post #6
Ive always had the skull cap on, only ever take it off in winter to put the skull cap wrap off. The skull cap leaves a fair bit of the bivvy exposed to the sun though, and those bits get really warm and let a lot of light through
Ive always had the skull cap on, only ever take it off in winter to put the skull cap wrap off. The skull cap leaves a fair bit of the bivvy exposed to the sun though, and those bits get really warm and let a lot of light through
In reply to Post #8
That's why I opted for the cap wrap all year round rather than the skull cap.....protects the sides and more of the bivvy should it rain......
That's why I opted for the cap wrap all year round rather than the skull cap.....protects the sides and more of the bivvy should it rain......
In reply to Post #9
Nice one theys, will give it a go this summer, saves me a fair few quid as well
Nice one theys, will give it a go this summer, saves me a fair few quid as well
In reply to Post #10
nylon cap wrap is great weighs next to nothing and easy to put away. Got an aquatexx one for my tempest 100 and it weighs a ton. Nylon much better choice.
nylon cap wrap is great weighs next to nothing and easy to put away. Got an aquatexx one for my tempest 100 and it weighs a ton. Nylon much better choice.
In reply to Post #7
I have bivvies in both Aquatexx and nylon ...Yes Aquatexx might block out some light but the difference in heat is minimal and a good quality nylon performs in every other way on par in my experience, is ligter in weight and dries quicker
I have bivvies in both Aquatexx and nylon ...Yes Aquatexx might block out some light but the difference in heat is minimal and a good quality nylon performs in every other way on par in my experience, is ligter in weight and dries quicker
In reply to Post #1
I had an Aquatexx Tempest V2, used it about 3 times and got rid of it.
Granted it does block a lot of sunlight out which I really like but the down sides meant it had to go.
I found it really heavy, when wet it was ridiculous, the material seemed like it soaked water up rather than repelling it. Condensation in almost all conditions was unbearable even with a groundsheet, and it was just too big for me (I mainly fish 1 night sessions so just don't need the space it provided)
I've had a fair few Trakker shelters over the years but this experience really put me off getting another.
I know use an Aqua Pioneer, the material is much better and I use it exclusively with the Skull Cap so Condensation is a thing of the past, yes it is still heavy but it does repell water like it's supposed too and it's the perfect size for me and feels built to last.
I had an Aquatexx Tempest V2, used it about 3 times and got rid of it.
Granted it does block a lot of sunlight out which I really like but the down sides meant it had to go.
I found it really heavy, when wet it was ridiculous, the material seemed like it soaked water up rather than repelling it. Condensation in almost all conditions was unbearable even with a groundsheet, and it was just too big for me (I mainly fish 1 night sessions so just don't need the space it provided)
I've had a fair few Trakker shelters over the years but this experience really put me off getting another.
I know use an Aqua Pioneer, the material is much better and I use it exclusively with the Skull Cap so Condensation is a thing of the past, yes it is still heavy but it does repell water like it's supposed too and it's the perfect size for me and feels built to last.
In reply to Post #13
I still have a aqua m3, tempest v2 air and a tempest 100 ev all in aquatex i hardly ever get any condensation in any of them and none of mine have ever soaked up water instead it beads on tops and runs off, i do frequently use the tempests with skull caps which will help.
One of the things i like about aquatex compared to nylon is when using them where conditions vary cold nights and warm days the nylon material bivvies would expand and expand and contract so material would flap about when cooler but go excessively tight when it warmed up putting a lot more stress onto material and frame
I still have a aqua m3, tempest v2 air and a tempest 100 ev all in aquatex i hardly ever get any condensation in any of them and none of mine have ever soaked up water instead it beads on tops and runs off, i do frequently use the tempests with skull caps which will help.
One of the things i like about aquatex compared to nylon is when using them where conditions vary cold nights and warm days the nylon material bivvies would expand and expand and contract so material would flap about when cooler but go excessively tight when it warmed up putting a lot more stress onto material and frame
I've got the 100 brolly in nylon and love it. I had Aquatexx on my old V2 before but don't see any real benefits over nylon. People talk about Aquatexx being darker but the nylon is no different to sleeping under a normal camping tent. I dont bother with skull caps or wraps, just takes up more space and weight and not needed with my fishing. The brolly footprint is big enough without these extras to keep you dry and out of the elements. I definitely think about saving the money and going with nylon.
In reply to Post #14
I think the early nylon left a lot to be desired with the shrinking and loosening in different weather conditions and condensation
but now technology has moved on and the newer nylon fabrics are different gravy and have significant advantages over Aquatex IMO
I think the early nylon left a lot to be desired with the shrinking and loosening in different weather conditions and condensation
but now technology has moved on and the newer nylon fabrics are different gravy and have significant advantages over Aquatex IMO
In reply to Post #14
If anything I've experienced the opposite, the latest nylon stays very tight in all conditions unlike my old Aquatexx which sometimes flapped around a lot.
If anything I've experienced the opposite, the latest nylon stays very tight in all conditions unlike my old Aquatexx which sometimes flapped around a lot.
In reply to Post #15
I already have the nylon mate, was just toying with the idea of aquatex and if it would be an upgrade, which in most peoples eyes it isnt
And the weight and size added by having the skull cap on it is negligible. Not sure id want to use it without now
I already have the nylon mate, was just toying with the idea of aquatex and if it would be an upgrade, which in most peoples eyes it isnt
And the weight and size added by having the skull cap on it is negligible. Not sure id want to use it without now
In reply to Post #18
Sorry I didn't realise that, its definitely not an upgrade I'd spend it on other fishing things
Sorry I didn't realise that, its definitely not an upgrade I'd spend it on other fishing things
In reply to Post #16
Maybe modern nylon has improved my opinions were based on the earlier nash titans and mk1 aqua armadillo which which were bad for the expansion and contraction of the nylon
Maybe modern nylon has improved my opinions were based on the earlier nash titans and mk1 aqua armadillo which which were bad for the expansion and contraction of the nylon
In reply to Post #14
Just my experience with that particular shelter...
Never had it before with Trakker, Aqua or Fox shelters, maybe I got a bad one but it's definitely put me off getting another.
Just my experience with that particular shelter...
Never had it before with Trakker, Aqua or Fox shelters, maybe I got a bad one but it's definitely put me off getting another.
In reply to Post #19
Well I seriously disagree. I had a tempest composite which was nylon and it was absolutely freezing and damp in the winter. I agree through summer nothing wrong with Nylon but I much prefer Aquatexx type in winter as they feel a lot drier inside, therefore warmer. I also think they block out the wind better.
I recently bought an aqua pioneer and wrap which has been lovely through the cold and rain although I have had a nightmare with the skull cap not fitting right, the peak ends up loose and floopy with the centre pole having half an inch give in it. I've had 2 already and both were the same, and will need to send the latest one back to total Fishing Tackle as well. I tried my mates skull cap today, and it fits absolutely fine, although its a DPM version. Very very odd. Must be a bad batch..
Well I seriously disagree. I had a tempest composite which was nylon and it was absolutely freezing and damp in the winter. I agree through summer nothing wrong with Nylon but I much prefer Aquatexx type in winter as they feel a lot drier inside, therefore warmer. I also think they block out the wind better.
I recently bought an aqua pioneer and wrap which has been lovely through the cold and rain although I have had a nightmare with the skull cap not fitting right, the peak ends up loose and floopy with the centre pole having half an inch give in it. I've had 2 already and both were the same, and will need to send the latest one back to total Fishing Tackle as well. I tried my mates skull cap today, and it fits absolutely fine, although its a DPM version. Very very odd. Must be a bad batch..
In reply to Post #22
If it's cold like now there is now temperature difference between aquatexx and nylon in the bivvy.......a thermometer doesn't lie........
If it's cold like now there is now temperature difference between aquatexx and nylon in the bivvy.......a thermometer doesn't lie........
In reply to Post #22
Block out the wind better? Hahahahahaha
Block out the wind better? Hahahahahaha
In reply to Post #22
Ive never felt any kind of draft thru nylon material
Ive never felt any kind of draft thru nylon material
In reply to Post #25
Just feels colder when the material is wet and wind is blowing against it and its a thinner nylon.
Clearly just me, nevermind.
Just feels colder when the material is wet and wind is blowing against it and its a thinner nylon.
Clearly just me, nevermind.
In reply to Post #26
It's OK, i agree with you. Not sure if its just in the mind, but it feels colder to me.
It's OK, i agree with you. Not sure if its just in the mind, but it feels colder to me.
In reply to Post #26
Nope not just you,im the same
Nope not just you,im the same
In reply to Post #26
I agree feels colder. Reckon its the dampness in a nylon bivvy if all done up in the winter as they don't breath. Main reason I went with Aquatexx for the bivvy but stuck with nylon for the wrap as its lighter and only needs to be waterproof. It keeps the outer of the aquatexx dry and so it can breath.
I agree feels colder. Reckon its the dampness in a nylon bivvy if all done up in the winter as they don't breath. Main reason I went with Aquatexx for the bivvy but stuck with nylon for the wrap as its lighter and only needs to be waterproof. It keeps the outer of the aquatexx dry and so it can breath.
In reply to Post #29
I did 2 nights under the Aqua Pioneer ev aquatexx with no skull cap and last night I had the door zipped up (I don't normally but my feet got cold the previous night and I've been suffering with bad circulation) anyway it got down to 0 degrees last night and amazingly I awoke to a bone dry bivvy, not a single bit of condensation to be seen! I have to say I'm very impressed with the material on it.
I did 2 nights under the Aqua Pioneer ev aquatexx with no skull cap and last night I had the door zipped up (I don't normally but my feet got cold the previous night and I've been suffering with bad circulation) anyway it got down to 0 degrees last night and amazingly I awoke to a bone dry bivvy, not a single bit of condensation to be seen! I have to say I'm very impressed with the material on it.
In reply to Post #30
I have the same with my ultralite,best bivvy I have ever owned.I would love aqua to do an m3 in this material though
I have the same with my ultralite,best bivvy I have ever owned.I would love aqua to do an m3 in this material though
In reply to Post #30
Air humidity and different outside temp plays a big part in whether you will have any condensation.......temps obviously equal inside and out....if your happy though.....your happy...... 
Air humidity and different outside temp plays a big part in whether you will have any condensation.......temps obviously equal inside and out....if your happy though.....your happy......
In reply to Post #32
Hell yes. Atmospheric conditions or even bivvy placement Trump
Material or skins every time.
Hell yes. Atmospheric conditions or even bivvy placement Trump
Material or skins every time.
In reply to Post #30
hi all, i just quoted you in a thread i started, best warmest Winter bivvy?
https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=437459
appreciate any in put from you winter carpers, cheers!
hi all, i just quoted you in a thread i started, best warmest Winter bivvy?
https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=437459
appreciate any in put from you winter carpers, cheers!
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