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World Cup 2022 (266 posts / 7,215 views)
RKB
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Post #1 20 Nov 2022 18:42
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Ecuador very comfortable and stayed in 1st gear after taking a two goal lead in the first half. Looking forward to more. Expecting England to trounce Iran tomorrow, though it's England, anything can happen.
Teddybare
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Post #2 20 Nov 2022 19:25
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In reply to Post #1
Won me a few bob that one. wouldnt be surprised to see Iran score.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #3 20 Nov 2022 20:05
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In reply to Post #2
Very possible if Maguire starts.......
scozza
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Post #4 21 Nov 2022 19:18
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Well, not seen the game but off to a good start

Shouldn't really be conceding to Iran for me though, albeit one was a penalty
jeffire jeffire
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Post #5 21 Nov 2022 20:06
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Looking at all reports England look to have won the world cup today the others may aswell go home.Bellingham best since slice bread and southgate a genius ! Lets see what the same people are saying in a couple of weeks.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #6 21 Nov 2022 20:12
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Southgate is a ****ing idiot,the sooner he goes the better,How he can leave a player like Tomori out of the squad is unbelievable and takes a player like Maguire
mal mal
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Post #7 21 Nov 2022 21:55
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Bellingham is really good....

Imagine how much better he'll be once klopp gets hold of him

Agree that tomori should be in the squad. The maguire situation is a joke. Same with pickford. Both only in because Southgate 'likes' them rather than talent, ability or even form.

Pleased for Wales getting the draw against USA

jeffire jeffire
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Post #8 21 Nov 2022 22:57
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We wont be able to afford bellingham and id rather have declan rice to be honest but remember never buy a player off the back of a world cup.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #9 21 Nov 2022 23:19
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In reply to Post #7
Klopp can't get his existing players working let alone bringing in another one.
mal mal
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Post #10 21 Nov 2022 23:28
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In reply to Post #8
El hadj diouf comes to mind.... absolute tool of a player.

I'd rather have Bellingham than Rice tbh. And if the Mason mount rumours are true I'd be OK with that.

braders1978 braders1978
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Post #11 21 Nov 2022 23:51
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Fickle game ain't it,I remember Arsenal fans wanting Arteta sacked now they talk about him like he is a god.When he puts some silverware in the trophy cabinet then fair enough
RKB
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Post #12 22 Nov 2022 07:54
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Good result, nice to see lots of our forwards getting on the scoresheet, which will be great for their confidence. Need to tighten up in defence as to concede two against a poor side (albeit one dodgy penalty) suggests a more potent side will certainly be finding the net.

Need some consistency with VAR generally.

Wales looked awful for most of their game, slightly better last 20 mins and probably just about earned their draw.
RKB
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Post #13 22 Nov 2022 12:49
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Argentina
Cam Cam
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Post #14 22 Nov 2022 13:09
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In reply to Post #10
We actually brought El Hadj Diouf before that World Cup, just wasn't finalised until after.
Agree with him being a tool though lol

I'd take Bellingham over Rice any day of the week. He could be the Gerrard replacement, I don't think Rice would. Just my opinion. I think Rice plays better for England that he does West Ham, I don't see "it" when he plays for West Ham but do in an England shirt. Different tactics/responsibilities I suppose and obviously don't see him week in/week out.
Bellingham just looks like he has a bit of everything and younger.
Would take both mind

Anyway World Cup.
Thought England played OK, not as well as the commentators/pundits made out but OK.
Iran were no competition really but as the old saying goes, you can only beat what is in front of you.


Argentina and Messi failing again. Some peoples favourites, not mine.
Uruguay are my dark horses. Brazil and France will be the teams to beat.
scozza
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Post #15 22 Nov 2022 18:07
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In reply to Post #13
Now that is a shocker, Saudi lol

Imagine the kosh Southgate would have got if that was us
jeffire jeffire
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Post #16 22 Nov 2022 18:29
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In reply to Post #14
Rice would be playing with better players at anfield than with the hammers ,that makes a difference but we need much more than 1 player.Argentina will come good .Belgium or Brazil for me .
Teddybare
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Post #17 22 Nov 2022 18:31
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In reply to Post #15
The bookies must be loving it at the minute, that Argie loss killed many many acca's and chuck in Kane not scoring or even having a shot against the Iranians they are creaming it in at present.
mal mal
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Post #18 22 Nov 2022 22:09
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Nobody fancying Germany?

France look good. Brazil... richarlison? Neymar better be on form...

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #19 23 Nov 2022 00:09
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In reply to Post #11
Not from me, I've never asked for Wenger, Emery or Arteta to be sacked.
Although Arteta is doing well I think Emery would have done well if given as much time that Arteta has been given.
RKB
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Post #20 23 Nov 2022 15:03
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In reply to Post #13
Germany
scozza
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Post #21 23 Nov 2022 19:50
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In reply to Post #19
What is that helmet lol, ffs

Mr golden helmet
scozza
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Post #22 23 Nov 2022 19:52
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Japan lol

Well, just watched the first half of the Belgium vs. Canada game, should have had 10 goals Canada ffs, can't finish, strikers wanting too many touches sadly, lacking quality up front

On a plus point, blueprint is out there for Belgium, long ball down the channels and the quick attacks is killing them!
mal mal
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Post #23 23 Nov 2022 22:05
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Spain ....

Most enjoyable football I've seen so far. Luis Enrique has got them playing with the right attitude...

Surprised by the Germany result. I do expect both them and Argentina to improve in their next games though.

Belgium got lucky by all accounts

And as for tinhead.... clearly been spending too much time polishing his helmet...
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #24 24 Nov 2022 00:42
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In reply to Post #21
I think it looks rather suave, that nice chap Karlos chose it for me
RKB
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Post #25 24 Nov 2022 07:37
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Yes, Spain looked slick and completely unhurried - as they should against a side like Costa Rica. Great to see all of the Belgian superstars moaning at each other.

Given the Germany and Argentina results, was beginning to think that Englands drubbing of Iran was better than it looked. Next round will be interesting.

Nice bunch of fixtures today; tight between Cameroon and Switzerland, Uruguay should have Korea's measure, Ghana to upset Portugal (?) and a bit of Samba magic to end the first round of group games.
mal mal
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Post #26 24 Nov 2022 22:24
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Portugal... lucky win? Ronaldo again showing his class in 'winning' the penalty. He fell over easier than a drunk nanna at a wedding....

Brazil... richarlison?!,!? Clearly my view of him is tainted by only seeing him play with crap teammates.. ...

On what I've seen so far, France and Spain look the best bets. But its all a bit unpredictable. Netherlands could be dark horses
troutybrown
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Post #27 25 Nov 2022 13:51
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Wales were being overrun in 2nd half but Page kept the same formation if you going to keep Bale on put him up front where he can make a difference. Iran fully deserved the win and are 1 place below Wales in FIFA rankings so not a big surprise.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #28 25 Nov 2022 20:55
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That was dull.
We'll qualify out of the group stages but can't see us going much further based on that performance.
scozza
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Post #29 25 Nov 2022 20:56
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Well, to be fair I think America could give any team problems, super fit and chased the ball around in numbers. A good counterattacking side would have had 5 against them and that's not us.

We are totally one dimensional under Southgate, and the same old, possession at the back and build on it, tell he was a defender. A long ball would have killed the Americans, build up play does not work, it's got to be slick and quick and in their half in seconds before they stick 8 men behind the ball

To be fair this has got to be Southgate's last roll of the dice unless he wins it. Looking a the competition, I think we have a good chance!
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #30 25 Nov 2022 21:04
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Comes to something when your best player was Harry Maguire! 🤦‍♂️
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #31 25 Nov 2022 21:07
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Why does Southgate keep playing Mount probably let's hope changes are made for the Wales game id drop Sterling and start Foden
Teddybare
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Post #32 25 Nov 2022 21:33
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In reply to Post #31
And drop Kane too
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #33 26 Nov 2022 01:33
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I can't believe you think we can win it
scozza
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Post #34 26 Nov 2022 07:04
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Great club player and finisher but has not got the pace we need, needs the ball to his feet or a cross and he will finish. Can't say i am a big Foden fan but at least he can shift a bit, same for Sterling, can't say I'm his biggest fan either but I would like to see those too given a free role to just run and terrorise defences, has to be a second half or last 20 minute option surely. The changes yesterday did virtually nothing!

As I said though, America just get everybody behind the ball quickly making it difficult to score. Tactically wrong from Southgate for me, saying that they seemed happy with the draw.

The Wales game is massive for us and those sheep shaggers will want it, probably more than us!
troutybrown
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Post #35 26 Nov 2022 09:31
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That's the big problem i have with a striker being Captain makes him sort of undroppable always prefer a defender. Even when Southgate made the subs it didn't change anything he is tactically inept.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #36 26 Nov 2022 11:49
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I hope Wales knock us out and they sack Southgate straight after the game
Teddybare
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Post #37 26 Nov 2022 14:13
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Looks to me like Kane is playing with an injury, definitely not the player he was a year ago. Not really been the same since the City move fell through.
Teddybare
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Post #38 26 Nov 2022 14:14
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Can't see him being sacked, he'll resign because he wants a job in the Prem.
scozza
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Post #39 26 Nov 2022 16:32
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Braders, go and sit in the corner and face the wall for at least one hour, what kind of statement is that!
troutybrown
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Post #40 26 Nov 2022 17:29
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I'm with Bradders on this one hello wall.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #41 26 Nov 2022 18:48
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Southgate is useless,this build from the back slow play does not work as we have no clue how to break teams down.We have got pace in that team with Sterling,Saka and Walker we also have creative players with Foden,Bellingham,Grealish and Mount.We should be flying at teams like USA and keep them chasing the ball to create space for Kane to run into and do what he does best.Mbappe is the best player in the tournament so far for me and he is only 23,its scary how good his movement and decision making is at such a young age
scozza
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Post #42 26 Nov 2022 19:06
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Completely different players, Mbappe was good tonight, electric pace and a real threat, their ain't a defender in the world who likes people taking them on and running at them, exactly what we need to be doing!

Disappointed for the Danes, deserved a draw or maybe the win for me

Cmon England, fancy us for the final
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #43 26 Nov 2022 19:29
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You really are a deluded dope
scozza
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Post #44 26 Nov 2022 20:50
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Watching the game, wonder goal from the worlds greatest player? apparently

Argentina are *****!

Feel for Mexico in a way but, similar to us though, one dimensional!
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #45 26 Nov 2022 21:05
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Argentina are ***** but would still turn us over.Come on Wales put us out of our misery and knock us out on Tuesday.I want see Southgate doing that dance Wednesday morning
mal mal
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Post #46 26 Nov 2022 23:27
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We don't have a player like mbappe though. Not since Michael Owen really in terms of that pace and direct running and finishing...

We lacked creativity against the USA. And yet there are players like foden and trent warming the bench. Southgate still thinks like a defender. Maddison could be an option too against Wales

Kane looks jaded. He's not had a shot on goal yet. Wilson deserves a try. He can't do worse can he?

Pleased that Messi isn't done yet. It would be a shame if they'd gone tonight.
scozza
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Post #47 27 Nov 2022 07:54
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Kane has scored more England goals than Owen already

He ain't getting the service and Southgate ain't doing him any favours with his tactics either!

Against teams who want a game I think we will do well, watching the yanks was like watching kids football, everybody was chasing the ball and then they just stuck everybody behind it. You should know what we are looking for, look at the scousers front line, pace, break, score!

If Kane is up there he needs people around him, we will get the world record for holding onto the ball and passing it around in our own half

Not to mention then looking for a break with a striker who the ref can run faster than, wrong tactics for Kane, he needs the ball to feet. Dare I say it, Rashford may even be a better option the way how they are playing, will he leave Kane out, nope. He really needs to make tactical subs, the other night it was virtually like for like other than Henderson having a good 5 minutes when he came on but then just faded away

We live in hope
scozza
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Post #48 27 Nov 2022 08:04
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Stop it with those negative waves Moriarty

Moriarty Braders
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #49 27 Nov 2022 14:59
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Say what you want but under Southgate we are winning F.A,Kane drops off too much trying help where he is not needed.Kane should stay in and around the box and let the midfield do their job,Kane has no pace and is a defenders dream as he can't run onto a ball over the top,Toney would of caused problems with Wilson or Rashford but Kane looks lost and clueless just like Southgate
scozza
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Post #50 27 Nov 2022 15:40
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Look at Belgium, all that talent and got stuffed

Goes to show, you can be whoever you want but teamwork makes the dream work

Kane drops off too much trying help where he is not needed

100%
mal mal
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Post #51 27 Nov 2022 15:56
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In reply to Post #47
Not saying kane hasn't scored goals - his numbers are impressive for his ability and the teams he plays for...

I was referring to you saying we needed a player like mbappe - hence Owen

Kane plays in a very different way. He's no mbappe and he's never had that pace that Owen had. Remember his goal against Argentina when he was just 18?

Belgium?!?! Another surprise result. Keeping it all interesting eh?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #52 27 Nov 2022 17:40
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Come on Spain,send them home
Teddybare
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Post #53 27 Nov 2022 20:56
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Spain and Germany looked average there.

European teams seem to be very leggy in this tournament, strange considering where they all are in there respective leagues.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #54 27 Nov 2022 21:23
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Both closed eachother down very well and limited eachothers time to create anything.I can see Germany getting better as the tournament progresses,I hope I'm wrong though and the next round of results see them going home
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #55 27 Nov 2022 21:43
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Nah looking at their final games it looks like the Gerries will creep through.
Really hope I'm wrong.
mal mal
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Post #56 27 Nov 2022 23:30
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Yeah Germany will win.

And Spain too.

Unless they don't of course.

In which case they'll lose.

Or draw.

There. That's got that sorted
scozza
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Post #57 28 Nov 2022 06:26
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In reply to Post #51
It's interesting and quite an open tournament, anybody could win it, thats why I fancy us to go a long way, hopefully to the final.

Good 2nd half for the gerries, I would have liked to have seen them out of there but as mentioned you just know they will creep though

Best side I have seen is probably France, take away Mbappe and I think they were average

Looking at England, our 11 is as good as any other, probably better, can we play as a team and score goals, that's something else
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #58 28 Nov 2022 10:51
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In reply to Post #57
Croatia. Power, pace, precision. 👌
framey framey
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Post #59 28 Nov 2022 12:06
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In reply to Post #56
Wish I hade seeen this earlier I may have won some money if I'd have had a bet
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #60 28 Nov 2022 19:00
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In reply to Post #59
Not really impressed with Brazil today they showed glimpses of decent stuff France wouldn't have a problem beating them
Teddybare
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Post #61 28 Nov 2022 22:37
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No real stand out team so far, pretty much anyone could beat anyone it seems.
Don't expect anything of quality out of the England game, a lower league prem sort of affair.
scozza
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Post #62 29 Nov 2022 21:03
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Good result that. Wished they had continued to press for four or five and really put it on them and got some goals but no complaints really
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #63 29 Nov 2022 21:16
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Henderson, headless chicken, weak point as always. Other than that fine. Much tougher opponents next. 🤞
RKB
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Post #64 29 Nov 2022 21:24
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Big up Marcus Rashford, delivering free school meals and winning goals at the World Cup. Legendary.
ralph69 ralph69
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Post #65 29 Nov 2022 21:25
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Shearers slating of Wales was quality, was asked if he ever played against wales , he said no I only played against the big nations 😂
Teddybare
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Post #66 29 Nov 2022 21:59
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They were shocking, didn't think they'd be that bad, didn't even have any fight, not a single one got stuck in, looked like a pub team with a hangover on a Sunday morning.
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #67 29 Nov 2022 22:27
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Rashford started to play well now he's concentrating on doing the job that the fans pay him to do, instead of being a dinner lady. Having his back injury and mind sorted has done him a world of good.

Teddybare
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Post #68 29 Nov 2022 22:29
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Not sure his mind is sorted.

Roy Kean nailed it when he referred to him as "team Rashford" pretty obvious that those around him have pushed him into things he shouldn't have been involved in, Alex Ferguson wouldn't have let that happen.
mal mal
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Post #69 29 Nov 2022 22:51
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Not an out and out striker but the modern game has moved past that in most cases (Haaland and lewandowski being exceptions obviously)

He's got pace and can run with the ball just like Harry kane doesn't.

And his other passion in free school meals makes him a cut above the likes of Ronaldo and the typical ego driven types.

If he could find some consistency he'd be even better p
scozza
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Post #70 30 Nov 2022 06:12
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Roy Kean nailed it when he referred to him as "team Rashford" pretty obvious that those around him have pushed him into things he shouldn't have been involved in, Alex Ferguson wouldn't have let that happen.

100%
scozza
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Post #71 30 Nov 2022 06:19
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consistency

That's the worry

I also thought Foden and Bellingham worked well together, more than a handful for anybody those two when they are playing well

It was an interesting front line that and nice to see we can mix it up. One day we will find our starting 11
RKB
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Post #72 30 Nov 2022 07:23
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Less of the negativity about Englands winning goalscorer please lads.
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #73 30 Nov 2022 19:01
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Poland Argentina could be a really good game no sitting back in this for Argentina
Teddybare
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Post #74 30 Nov 2022 22:10
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The Poles didnt deserve to go through, very poor. At least the Mexicans were going for it in the other game.
mal mal
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Post #75 30 Nov 2022 22:39
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Those bloody Poles... going over there, taking all those last 16 places....

Deano48 Deano48
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Post #76 30 Nov 2022 23:15
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Poland where anti-football no ambition got to feel for the Mexicans and Saudis atleast they had ago
mal mal
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Post #77 30 Nov 2022 23:57
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Mourinho has made millions from that approach...

Another surprise result with France getting beat

It's definitely not boring so far.

I've got England in the sweepstake at work. Was gutted at first but if the Saudis can beat Argentina...

...

Yeah I know. I'm being silly
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #78 1 Dec 2022 07:08
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Different Argentina now from when the Saudis played them they seem to be growing into the World Cup and getting better each game they play.
One thing we learnt about France yesterday there squad doesn't have the depth we have
mal mal
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Post #79 1 Dec 2022 10:27
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They were maybe a bit complacent in the Saudi game.

France's 1st team should be able to beat anyone on their day but a suspension or injury and maybe you're right. Southgate hasn't even unleashed the best right back in the world yet...
troutybrown
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Post #80 1 Dec 2022 11:48
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He can't Ben White's come home.
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #81 1 Dec 2022 16:53
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Wow how many chances did Romelu Lukaku have Belgium have been embarrassing
Teddybare
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Post #82 1 Dec 2022 19:04
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Watching Costa Rica is like watching 10 Spidermen.
scozza
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Post #83 1 Dec 2022 20:05
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He is *****, same as Belgium, teamwork zero
scozza
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Post #84 1 Dec 2022 20:07
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France's 1st team should be able to beat anyone on their day

So should England!

Take Mbeppe out of that squad and they are average, Giroude up front, similar to Lukkako, ****
Teddybare
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Post #85 1 Dec 2022 21:05
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The Germans didn't like it up em 😅
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #86 1 Dec 2022 21:14
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F*** em! 😆
Brilliant from Japan. 👏👏
mal mal
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Post #87 1 Dec 2022 21:40
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Giroud is underrated

He's just equalled (passed even?) The French goalscorer record that was held by Henry

Their keeper is also better.

And if you took mbappe out of any team they'd feel it.

England do have a strong 1st eleven. Trouble is that Southgate doesn't play them...

Senegal will be a good test. England are lucky that mane isn't fit
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #88 2 Dec 2022 00:38
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Watched it a pub with loads of japs in there.
They went mental, I was very pleased for them, especially the second goal that looked out of play.
Shame the Spaniards qualified but hey ho.
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #89 2 Dec 2022 04:04
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At one point Spain were also going out, a great 90+ minutes of topsy turvy entertainment.
scozza
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Post #90 2 Dec 2022 06:00
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Wish they would have gone

Well done Japan, teamwork wins the day again
scozza
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Post #91 2 Dec 2022 06:08
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17 goals in. 5 seasons at Chelsea! class act.

About 70 in 7 seasons at the gunners, world class at been on the bench lol. Wonder how many of those were with the head too, I bet most!

Said it now, you know the useless **** will score a crucial goal

And good on Southgate for leaving Trent on the bench, if he can't run up and down the touch line like a headless chicken he looks like a lost sheep

Teddybare
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Post #92 2 Dec 2022 17:08
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Hope there's a camera in the tunnel at the Uruguay game, ref was getting it all the way off🤣🤣🤣🤣
Teddybare
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Post #93 2 Dec 2022 17:10
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Ronaldo v Messi in the final, the fix is in the money has been paid 👍
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #94 2 Dec 2022 18:02
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The ref just wants to hope Suárez don't get near him
I
I did think though Cavani should have got awarded the penalty
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #95 2 Dec 2022 20:01
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Never a penalty in a million years, he deliberately let his leg make contact. Should have been booked for simulation.
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #96 2 Dec 2022 20:06
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Well done Korea. What a cheeky pass that was from Son. 👌
Teddybare
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Post #97 2 Dec 2022 22:04
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Karma for the disallowed Lampard (Fat Frank) goal.

And for bombing our chip shops.

Nearly as funny as 2001 when Liverpool beat Germany 5-1. I remember the commentators starting to laugh as the 5th goal went in, the Germans went silent, the the broadcaster muted the commentary and pumped up the crowd noise, 5000 England fans in Munich humming and whistling the Dam Busters theam tune.

After 66 possibly English footballs greatest moment in Europe, worth a YouTube
scozza
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Post #98 3 Dec 2022 07:17
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Great player
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Post #99 3 Dec 2022 07:17
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Post #100 3 Dec 2022 16:58
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Holland deserved that got there tactics spot on today looked in control from kick off

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Post #101 3 Dec 2022 18:19
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Is it time for an upset ?
The Aussies to bring Messi's World Cup hopes to an end ?
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Post #102 3 Dec 2022 18:38
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Love it to happen but I think sadly Argentina are growing into this world cup
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Post #103 3 Dec 2022 18:48
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I hope so

Just sat watching now, Messi, how about that for a goal scoring record, unreal!
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Post #104 3 Dec 2022 19:20
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I want them to win. I want the best player in the world, maybe the best ever, to win the world Cup.

Speaking of best players, looks like Pele is in time added on.
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Post #105 3 Dec 2022 19:24
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I had the tv on and they showed this
LINK
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Post #106 4 Dec 2022 10:34
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The Dutch will have them out

Take Messi out of that side they are crap
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Post #107 4 Dec 2022 11:58
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Take Messi out..

Take mbappe out..

You need a new line scozza

I think you could be right though. The Dutch are quietly doing a very good job. Can't believe some pundits had the USA to beat them.

And even with Messi, there's virgil to contend with so it could be game over for them.

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Post #108 4 Dec 2022 16:21
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Why have the BBC got Dublin as a commentator,he was useless as a player and he is giving his opinion on players that have achieved more than he ever did.
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Post #109 4 Dec 2022 16:50
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To be fair... that's most English ex players commenting on world cups, champions league finals etc.

Doesn't he do a house renovation show now?
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Post #110 4 Dec 2022 16:50
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He's crap. He just prattles on and on, talking b*******.
He's not the only one.
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Post #111 4 Dec 2022 17:00
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Don't knock him he knows a good house when he sees one👍
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Post #112 4 Dec 2022 17:02
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Poland, about as good at defending tonight as there were at the start of WW2
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Post #113 4 Dec 2022 17:52
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He Never was any good with walls
That's why he always wants to knock them down.
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Post #114 4 Dec 2022 18:22
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Post #115 4 Dec 2022 18:32
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Everyone, if it all goes wrong tonight there's another in 4 years time.


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Post #116 4 Dec 2022 18:33
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Post #117 4 Dec 2022 18:42
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Funny how you get no crowd troubles if the consequences are getting your hands chopped off, stoned or chained to a wall for twenty years. What a fabulous country👍
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Post #118 4 Dec 2022 18:49
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Southgate: yeah it's great to see Marcus rashford back to his best and scoring important goals for England

....


Southgate: yeah Marcus is dropped to the bench for the game tonight.

...



Edit : luckily there's the Bellingham / Henderson combination that were all looking forward to in the Premier league soon... 😀
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Post #119 4 Dec 2022 20:12
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I didn't know Henderson was going to Man City too
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Post #120 4 Dec 2022 20:44
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Post #121 4 Dec 2022 20:56
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Post #122 4 Dec 2022 21:01
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Good first half performance and decent overhaul, another plus point we did not concede either

HMG looked suspect a couple of times, JG was poor!

Star performances from Kane, Bellingham and Foden for me, some great attacking football

Senegal are difficult to play against too!
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Post #123 4 Dec 2022 21:10
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Strength in depth, tallyho tallyho

Operation Overlord next 😘
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Post #124 4 Dec 2022 21:38
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Senegal difficulties in going forward cost my acca tonight the useless sods🤣
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Post #125 4 Dec 2022 22:33
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Klopp to Germany, Gerrard to Liverpool?
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Post #126 4 Dec 2022 22:40
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We will beat France, I think they will implode on the night.
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Post #127 4 Dec 2022 22:43
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Tough game. Keeping Mbappe quiet is the key, but I fear he will run rings around Maguire. 🤦‍♂️
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Post #128 5 Dec 2022 12:19
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Agree, seems to have been playing more left sided thankfully, I reckon Walker can deal with is pace

But if we have a weakness in defence...

Is he 100% fit, didn't look it to me?
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Post #129 5 Dec 2022 17:53
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Japan's penalties where just aweful shame they have had a great world cup
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Post #130 5 Dec 2022 18:06
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Yes, appalling. Let themselves down a bit I think.
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Post #131 5 Dec 2022 19:39
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Samba boys looking good, what a pass for the third goal, brilliant
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Post #132 5 Dec 2022 19:50
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This is men against boys Koreas defence is shocking
If results go right it could be Brazil Argentina semi final that could be something special
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Post #133 5 Dec 2022 20:00
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I'd love to know what the Korean manager is saying to the players at half time.
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Post #134 5 Dec 2022 23:09
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Luckily giroud is useless and won't score eh?...



I was surprised at how England did against Senegal. It would be even more surprising if they beat France but if Saudi can beat Argentina....

Brazil... winning for Pele?
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Post #135 6 Dec 2022 06:16
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Exactley that, horrendous defending but looked good on the break

Brazil still playing similar tactics to when the Germans thrashed them, nothing in midfield, like two banks of 4 or 5 in defence or attack
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Post #136 6 Dec 2022 06:19
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He had is luck in the last game, I hope

Cmon England, player for player we are better than the frogs, we just need to get it together as a team on the day, and score...
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Post #137 6 Dec 2022 17:48
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Wow morocco I never thought that was going to happen
Just seen Ronaldo been dropped to the bench for Portugal come on Switzerland 🇨🇭
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Post #138 6 Dec 2022 17:52
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Neither did i but Spain ain't the team they were.

As for Portugal the manager says with Ronaldo it's all about him not the team good call IMHO.
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Post #139 6 Dec 2022 17:54
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Enrique had his players take over a 1000 penalties before the world cup just shows you can't replicate the pressure of a penalty shoot out
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Post #140 6 Dec 2022 17:57
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What odds would you have got for Spain missing all their penalties?
Fantastic from Morocco.
Hope they go further.
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Post #141 6 Dec 2022 18:04
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They certainly know how to defend they could go all the way.
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Post #142 6 Dec 2022 19:11
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Diego's out

Well done Morocco
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Post #143 6 Dec 2022 20:25
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That's the end of Ronaldo then.
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Post #144 6 Dec 2022 20:29
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Hopefully
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Post #145 7 Dec 2022 12:08
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Why's that then?
I didn't see any of yesterday's football.
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Post #146 7 Dec 2022 14:29
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He was a sub didn't come on until 70 odd minutes and his replacement scored a hat trick lol
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Post #147 7 Dec 2022 14:39
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Much like Man United Portugal are a better team without Ronaldo in the starting 11
Portugal's manager got it spot on yesterday leaving Ronaldo on the bench use him as a impact player or when the games already won
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Post #148 7 Dec 2022 20:48
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Agreed

Is he going to strop out of Portugal too?

Not seeing the queues of big clubs to sign him up. Saudi payday for him maybe? MLS?
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Post #149 9 Dec 2022 17:49
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Have a dance about that Naymar you bottler
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Post #150 9 Dec 2022 17:59
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Exactly my thoughts
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Post #151 9 Dec 2022 18:06
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Bye Bye Brazil. Bye Bye Naymar. 😂
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Post #152 9 Dec 2022 18:09
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Great news.
Let's hope we don't bottle it.
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Post #153 9 Dec 2022 18:18
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Result that for Croatia
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Post #154 9 Dec 2022 18:32
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Brazil out, well it is winter 😀

Is it time to put a bet on England to win it 😉
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Post #155 9 Dec 2022 18:33
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Wide open now, anybodys.
Fancy this next match to be a cracker. Think the Dutch will edge it though.
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Post #156 9 Dec 2022 19:09
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Fancy Argentina to win this but the winners of France England to win the World Cup
Good thing about Brazil being knocked out Paquetá will be available for West Hams friendly against Fulham next week
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Post #157 9 Dec 2022 19:09
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Post #158 9 Dec 2022 19:28
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I drew England in the sweep at work... immediately asked 'so who's got Brazil then?'

Full of surprises this one
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Post #159 9 Dec 2022 19:36
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As Portugal go under the radar.
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Post #160 9 Dec 2022 20:58
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Watching Holland is like watching Wimbledon in the crazy gang days
What a free kick so cleverley worked
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Post #161 9 Dec 2022 22:04
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Sunday pub league ref.
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Post #162 9 Dec 2022 22:14
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Tell me about it I was just amazed he didn't send anyone off
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Post #163 9 Dec 2022 22:30
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Bitter sweet result for me.

Didn't want to see virgil knocked out. Been a fan of the Dutch since cruyff, krol, van der kerkhof johnny rep and the like. Then gullit and van Basten of course.

But...

I'd really love to see Messi lift the World Cup...

...

Or jordan Henderson

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Post #164 9 Dec 2022 22:30
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Adds a bit of spice to the game.
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Post #165 10 Dec 2022 06:40
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Extra time, everything depends on it, what a free kick that was

Like you say, Ariel bombardment killed them, should have tried it 45 minutes earlier

Unlucky for the Dutch
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Post #166 10 Dec 2022 08:42
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Argentina couldn't handle the big guys upfront Holland should have kept playing the direct game throughout the Extra time period.
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Post #167 10 Dec 2022 08:50
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Well at the moment the uk has some of the best strikers in the world, so we're in with a good chance 👍🏼
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Post #168 10 Dec 2022 11:05
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Yeah, but who'd have thought the USA would have trouble finding someone who could shoot?
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Post #169 10 Dec 2022 11:39
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If England met them in the final could they play and beat them playing that way though.
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Post #170 10 Dec 2022 13:59
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Post #171 10 Dec 2022 15:49
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Portuguese clearly not liking it up em.

Some award winning acting by them too.
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Post #172 10 Dec 2022 16:57
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Cheerio Pepe you diving ****.🤣🤣🤣
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Post #173 10 Dec 2022 17:00
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And Fernandes let alone CR7
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Post #174 10 Dec 2022 17:09
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In tears in the tunnel, not about him though 🤣🤣
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Post #175 10 Dec 2022 17:35
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Never is.

Hopefully he'll realise that his career is going downward now.
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Post #176 10 Dec 2022 17:38
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You have to laugh good riddance we don't have to put up with his crying attitude no more
Always remember his winking when he got Rooney sent off 🤬
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Post #177 10 Dec 2022 17:41
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But the Arab's want to pay him £174 million for a few seasons, just can't see what they get out of it. Possibly tv money out that way .
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Post #178 10 Dec 2022 19:54
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Looks like France for world cup glory, even the ref agrees. .....
Shocking display from the biased ref so far, we struggled to win anything in the first half.
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Post #179 10 Dec 2022 20:00
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We are so flat really need something / someone to spark us into life when we come out.

Where's fergies hairdryer ?
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Post #180 10 Dec 2022 20:25
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Nice quick response at the start of the second half
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Post #181 10 Dec 2022 20:57
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Another Sunday pub league ref!
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Post #182 10 Dec 2022 21:00
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2-1 win for the ref's chosen side. Well done .
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Post #183 10 Dec 2022 21:03
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England doing what England do.
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Post #184 10 Dec 2022 21:09
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Scozza.....

....

.... giroud....

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Post #185 10 Dec 2022 21:09
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At least we won't get to suffer the ignominy of losing to Morocco. We'll leave that to France. 😉
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Post #186 10 Dec 2022 21:18
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Maybe England need a different approach. It will be a piss taking waste of time so just don't give a f##k about it.
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Post #187 10 Dec 2022 21:19
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Never trust a Spud.
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Post #188 10 Dec 2022 21:21
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Treat the world cup like the Eurovision Song Contest?

Worth a go ...
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Post #189 10 Dec 2022 21:33
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👍 my thoughts exactly
Time for England to get new younger number 9 who can be a long time part of this England squad
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Post #190 10 Dec 2022 22:46
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Who would you go for? Wilson maybe?

I'd rather a change of system to a more fluid 433 to utilise the likes of foden, mount, rashford, sterling, grealish and some of the players coming through like Elliott

It would need a more progressive manager to make it work though...

Edit - and I'd play the world's best right back too...
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Post #191 11 Dec 2022 05:28
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Eddie Howe as manager,he would pick players on performance not names.Southgate has had his time and needs to go now.Tomori should of been in that team and Ivan Toney
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Post #192 11 Dec 2022 08:15
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Do like the look of Tomori another young player who can be a long term part of this team
Not sure about Toney but he should have been in Qatar number 9 seems to be a postion where we ain't blessed with players coming through at the moment
I personally think Southgate will stay on to after the Euro's
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Post #193 11 Dec 2022 08:35
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I hope you're wrong about Southgate
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Post #194 11 Dec 2022 09:59
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FA have stated that they intend to extend Southgates contract if he wishes to stay on. 🤦‍♂️
More fawning from Wright /Lineker and the like.
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Post #195 11 Dec 2022 12:50
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Exactly

Disappointing but I felt we were the better side and just unlucky. Frances opener was a good goal but most times the keeper stops those. As for the penalty, I bet he won't do that again!

Southgate, I believe he has brought the team on, defensive with a lot of the ball, goal scoring in open play CONSISTENTLY is my only concern

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Post #196 11 Dec 2022 12:51
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Said that's what he did, head too. We had a chance and fluffed it
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Post #197 11 Dec 2022 14:57
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Agree with you on that

Can't see him leaving the toon any time soon though
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Post #198 11 Dec 2022 15:43
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Don't blame Harry, blame jonny. LINK
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Post #199 11 Dec 2022 15:53
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Post #200 11 Dec 2022 16:12
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Post #201 11 Dec 2022 17:59
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The big difference is Jonny Wilkinson won us a world cup,Harry Kane won't ever win one.If he stays at Spurs he will go his whole career without any winners medals
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Post #202 11 Dec 2022 18:49
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Your 100% right there fella
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Post #203 12 Dec 2022 16:40
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The sh** is really starting to hit the fan now with the corruption over this World Cup. Bent EU officials, who would of thought that? 🤔


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63941509
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Post #204 12 Dec 2022 17:15
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Think it's something the whole world new had gone on
Too late now
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Post #205 12 Dec 2022 19:28
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Yep, we all new it had gone on. But that high up?
Its not that late that they can't be arrested as they are doing now.
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Post #206 12 Dec 2022 22:35
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On the basis of that I reckon the world cup should be declared null and void and started all over again.
As the EU is corrupt and we are no longer part of it we are fit to stage it in the UK next summer, a year late, just like the Euro's.
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Post #207 13 Dec 2022 07:15
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Very good point that. 🤔

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Post #209 13 Dec 2022 20:25
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Yeah... no chance of corruption here....

You'll change your tune when they close off the roads around Wembley and divert via Lewisham...
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Post #210 13 Dec 2022 20:34
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Messi he is unbelievable,I hope he can lift that trophy on Sunday
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Post #211 13 Dec 2022 20:43
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Sounds like I've hit a nerve here
You do realise that post was conjured in a land of fantasy, not to be taken seriously and now you've spoilt it.

But now you mention it corruption is rife in my local Labour council.
They say they are cash strapped but they are to spend more money for further gentrification in the area where the local mayors mates live.
But hey this is a football thread and it's your beloved EU not my local council that's the focus.
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Post #212 13 Dec 2022 20:51
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Different class the way he reads the game and plays it
Shame this is probably the last time we get to see this old Croatian team play together
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Post #213 13 Dec 2022 22:56
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I was of course joking - well about tge second part anyway

As for Messi - braders I'm with you on that. If anyone ever deserved to lift the world Cup (maybe cruyff in '74 too) ...
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Post #214 13 Dec 2022 23:19
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Not sure if I believe you Mal.
Myself included, we all bite occasionally but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time.

I wish my world cup fantasy could come true but we all know that when the EU is part of it, just like corrupt FIFA they will find a way of turning a blind eye to it.
Mal no need to respond to that, i'm only having another wind up
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Post #215 14 Dec 2022 18:44
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Cmon Morocco 🇲🇦
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Post #216 14 Dec 2022 21:11
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Morocco played way they just didn't have that cutting edge upfront
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Post #217 14 Dec 2022 21:23
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Cmon Argentina 🇦🇷
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Post #218 14 Dec 2022 21:35
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Nah rather the froggies than the argies.
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Post #219 14 Dec 2022 22:13
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Could be a classic. Two of the top 5 players in the world right now going head to head in Messi and mbappe.

France probably favourites but the little fella looks like he's on a mission
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Post #220 14 Dec 2022 22:53
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I just hope it's a good game
Messi looks like a man on a mission so I'm going for a Argentina 🇦🇷 win
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Post #221 15 Dec 2022 11:25
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I just think France have that bit more quality all over the pitch but Argentina are playing with alot of heart and their fans have been amazing
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Post #222 15 Dec 2022 12:11
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Allez Les Bleus!
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Post #223 18 Dec 2022 15:37
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Have some of that Macron you plastic Napoleon 🤣🤣🤣
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Post #224 18 Dec 2022 15:52
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post #225 18 Dec 2022 16:46
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Dear oh dear 🤣🤣🤣
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Post #226 18 Dec 2022 16:48
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Just unbelievable France have been aweful today
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Post #227 18 Dec 2022 17:25
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When you have that man Mbappe you can never rule them out.
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Post #228 18 Dec 2022 17:57
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That was a value for money final 👌
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Post #229 18 Dec 2022 18:03
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I expect Ronaldo is sat at home really pleased for Messi 🤔
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Post #230 18 Dec 2022 18:53
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Messi

Sometimes things just feel right eh?

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Post #231 18 Dec 2022 18:56
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What a game that was

Argentina deserved winners for me, France we're out of it for 80 minutes until the stupid penalty and then Mbeppe's wonder goal. Argentina superb throughout, just love how comfortable they are on the ball in and around the opponents box. I fancied the keeper in the shoot out, he had his fingers on both of Mbeppes first efforts, superb performance. Don't know why he took DiMaria off though?

As for Messi, just proved that he is world class, superb all round

Mbeppe will be back, quality player and finisher
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #232 18 Dec 2022 18:57
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What a final and I'm glad I got to see the GOAT lift the trophy
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #233 18 Dec 2022 19:35
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Writing in the stars that Messi and Argentina where to go on and win the World cup
Some things where just ment to be
scozza
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Post #234 18 Dec 2022 19:54
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Same here

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #235 18 Dec 2022 19:58
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A mischievous part of me wanted the Argies to lose. Not because I'm a fan of the French, far from it, just not a fan of fairy tale endings, unless it's non league teams beating the bigger boys
mal mal
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Post #236 18 Dec 2022 20:09
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Yeah mbappe will definitely be there again - probably the player to take on the best in the world tag for the next few years. There's little to not like about him and the way he plays.

Surely the Messi v Ronaldo debate is now over. (Never was a question for me)

Wonder what kind of welcome back he'll get at PSG?
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Post #237 18 Dec 2022 21:49
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England win the Fair play award for the least bookings. Maybe that's our problem,
maybe we should be cheat like the Argies have done all the way through.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #238 18 Dec 2022 21:56
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I didn't see any of the argies get booked for diving in the box,with a user name like yours it's clear you don't know decent football when you see it
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #239 18 Dec 2022 22:17
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Didn't see Argentina cheat today it was a French player Thuram who got booked for diving
Argentina started the tournament slowly but they grew into
mal mal
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Post #240 18 Dec 2022 22:25
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Tell you what, you wouldn't want to get told off by Thuram's dad... now he was a beast of a player.

I saw a team today who were willing to give every last drop for their captain. They looked like they wanted it more for him than for themselves.

And don't England always win the fair play awards? Better at disguising our late tackles maybe? Sympathy prize because of the amount of TV money from the UK networks?



Deano48 Deano48
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Post #241 18 Dec 2022 22:53
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Spot on Mal those Argentina players gave absolutely everything for the captain today they wanted it so much more then the French.
Took France 79 minutes to realise they where in the world cup final today
Teddybare
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Post #242 18 Dec 2022 23:46
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Two questions.

1, could Messi do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke ?

2, would England have done any better today instead of the French?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #243 19 Dec 2022 00:23
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1. Let's say he's played it safe. They say he's won everything but he hasn't won a winners medal for the Premier League, the hardest and best league in the world.
2. No Kane would've missed the penalties.
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Post #244 19 Dec 2022 00:26
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Exactly, a farmers league and a fixed league , didn't have the bottle for a 3rd round tie at Dulwich Hamlet in the cup on a Friday night did he.

****ing fraud
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #245 19 Dec 2022 05:46
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Stoke can't even do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #246 19 Dec 2022 08:47
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Exactly, Argie players just didn't get booked. It's been a theme all the way through. Messi seems completely immune to any form of booking even the hand ball against Holland. Diving, play acting, getting other players booked, harassing the ref, fouls on the blind side of the ref, all typical Argie stuff. Yet, you all turn a blind eye because of Messi.
There is no doubt he is a fantastic player, but drugs made him the player he is, he wouldn't have done anything without them.
Ronaldo maybe a mardarse but at least he's clean!


Bradders, I dunna follow Stoke, I follow no individual team, I just watch the football I like to watch.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #247 19 Dec 2022 08:58
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Nobody would admit to following stoke on an open forum What drugs is Messi on and at least he has never had to pay any women off
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #248 19 Dec 2022 11:39
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I didn't say he was 'on' any drug. When he arrived at Barcelona he was very small, they new they had an exceptional talent on their hands. So they pumped him full of growth hormones to make him the size he is. Apparently all legal and above board, cough cough.
Great player that he is, he's not the real deal as he has been enhanced.
mal mal
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Post #249 19 Dec 2022 11:43
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I saw quite a few players who have won 'the hardest league in the world' not lifting a world Cup ...

De bruyne? Ronaldo? Van dyk? Foden? Aguero? Salah?

Don't believe the hype. I love the premier league but just because Messi never played in it doesn't diminish his achievements. Same with Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Maldini, the real Ronaldo

Sure la liga has Almeria, but the premier league has Everton so....
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #250 19 Dec 2022 11:49
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Did the growth drug help with his movement,vision,passing and how he takes players on with ease.Messi was already doing that against kids twice his age,he is a very good role model on and off the pitch can that be said about Ronaldo,Ronaldo has had to work at it,Messi is just naturally gifted and has won something Ronaldo never will,he also is loved by his fellow professionals.Most clubs Ronaldo has left they are glad to see the back of him,hence why no team want him now
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #251 19 Dec 2022 14:59
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Yes loads of great players but to be crowned the greatest player of all time you need to prove it by playing in toughest league in my opinion.
mal mal
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Post #252 19 Dec 2022 15:07
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Bah - the 'toughest' league

In that case you probably need to look at someone playing in the Scots second division then. Sloping pitches that thaw out for about five games in May and wind that turns your blood blue.

Cam Cam
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Post #253 19 Dec 2022 15:14
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He was getting those injections BEFORE he went to Barca...they just carried on paying for his treatment as his family were struggling to pay .
Cam Cam
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Post #254 19 Dec 2022 15:15
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Out of interest.

What do you think is the toughest league?
clicky clicky
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Post #255 19 Dec 2022 15:18
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The paras and Royal Marines..
RKB
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Post #256 19 Dec 2022 15:35
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Basildon Sunday League.
mal mal
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Post #257 19 Dec 2022 16:14
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The human league...

Hear me out. They not appear so on first glance but to walk around Sheffield in the 80's with that haircut and make up...? Fearless doesn't come close.

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #258 19 Dec 2022 16:17
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Yes now you've pulled me up about it toughest was not the right word.
I'm changing it to the best league.
If you don't agree tell me what is

@cam
The best league is the PL
mal mal
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Post #259 19 Dec 2022 17:00
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It's only the best league when Liverpool win it

Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #260 19 Dec 2022 17:01
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Without the drug he wouldn't be playing, simple.

Ronaldo to Arsenal?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #261 19 Dec 2022 17:58
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What a load of ********
JasonM JasonM
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Post #262 19 Dec 2022 18:17
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Messi suffered from a very rare growth hormone deficiency.

He was very fortunate their was treatment to treat his GHD as are we to have been around to see such a talent.
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #263 19 Dec 2022 19:40
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I don't care about his injections for Growth we are just so lucky to see players like Messi and Ronaldo perform at such standards over the years
mal mal
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Post #264 19 Dec 2022 19:53
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And Harry maguire.....

clicky clicky
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Post #265 19 Dec 2022 20:07
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I played for LCN back in the day. was usually 8 nil down by half time..
Deano48 Deano48
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Post #266 19 Dec 2022 20:25
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Oh Harry Maguire 🤣🤣🤣
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