I realise this is cheaper than my old Indulgence
But even so.

I wanted to try a hinged bed that could fold a bag inside.
Also lighter and a bit smaller.

Bought from Bobco Tackle. First one the little black blanking
End caps came off on half the tubes immediatly.
But worse first overnighter and a middle leg mechanism broke.

Bit chaotic at Bobco but eventually got a replacement sent
I bought some superglue and glued on the 3 end caps that fell off as I removed the packaging. I checked the others they were fine. Used the bed last night, and voila, 3.more missing.

The tubing is unfinished and sharp and may cut stuff
So now I've asked Whychwood for replacements.

Just a bit peeved as.my old.indulgence has never missed a beat
In well over 10 years.

In reply to Post #1
I had one and thought they where cheaply made tbh I have a wychwood tactical chair and that's cheaply made bought it for the river because it is light to walk around wouldn't buy again

In reply to Post #1
I've never had an issue with mine, just annoying the legs don't lock into position.
And you need a sim on it lol like laying on the floor

I've already tightend those legs so they don't swing about.

I know the endcaps is a daft little problem. But bloody hell
Coming off as you remove the packaging. Mind you they aren't like a plug that sticks in. Just like a plastic 2 pence glued on

And yes, it's hardly comfy. Lot.of.cracking reviews on here when they came out though.

I had one years ago and after trying it in the garden for 2 minutes it was quite clear it was crap, so I sent it back.

In reply to Post #5
Lol. I fear I'm too emotionally invested at this point.

Good old Wychwood, I messaged them on FB
They replied and gave me email for Leeder customer services.
Sent them the photos and they replied and are sending me a few spares.

3 24nhour sessions I've done and nit once have I been able to use it as intended re packing up as something always needs sorting lol

In reply to Post #1
ive had mine a couple of years and must have done over 300 nights on it.
There are elements of the build that are cheap - the leg adjusters especially, and as they are on the 'outside' they are exposed, one of mine has broken off (but the leg still adjusts).

I have run some doubled over velcro under the lumber support elastic, you can then secure the legs for transport.

I find the bed very comfortable (with a SIM) and light, and think that the build quality is reflected in the price...

In reply to Post #7
I agree re the price only paid 140 for it.
Whereas my main bed a Mk2 indulgence wideboybwas near on
300 over a decade ago.

But I would like it usable LOl

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In reply to Post #1
Had mine for a couple of years, never had an issue with it, I think they feel a bit cheap because they are so light, but that's why I bought it, easier to lift etc

Sure it hasn't got lafuma written on it any where lol

In reply to Post #9
I can see how light can feel cheap. But I gave away a fully sprung JRC stealth bedchair to a mate to make use of this . And that hadn't had problems for 14 years or so. And that's lighter.

Now I admit, it had adjusting wheels and was narrower and a bit low. And I wanted a hinge to fold a bag but even so I wasn't expecting such a drop in quality and comfort.

I can relate to what your saying mate,plus I can add a bit more..

The compact version I had ,contributed to a severe internal injury ,ie a torn core muscle ,which took six months to heal ..

I got up quick to respond to a fast take,pop,pop,pop..that was the sounds of flesh tearing internally,the fact the mattress has no give ,certainly didn't help...


Got rid asap...worst bedchair I have had thus far..

In reply to Post #12
Lol bloody hell. Sorry to hear that mate

I read loads of posts about the beds and whilst many said they used a SIM. (Which I felt I could mostly ignore as was just for overnighters and have never really been uncomfortable on any bed.)

I figured it's other attributes were worth a gamble.

nothing but praise for this bedchair from me,stuck a sim on it and it's the best night sleep I've had

In reply to Post #13
Same as me,it ticked a lot of boxes at the time..

My end caps also fell off,lol...I bought a discontinued RT,Avid which has terrible reviews,but I've not had a issue in over four years..

I have Wychwood Tactical Compact, JRC Steath X-Lite and a Trakker Superlight bedchairs

JRC is smallest and lightest .... Had for many years .... A bit small/narrow but useable and I like how compact it is to carry. I also really like the locking legs that prevents any type of collapse (i dont know why all bedchairs dont do this)

Wychwood Compact is a nice bedchair .... Perhaps not quite as well built as the JRC but does fold flat with hinges so easier to store sleeping bag. I got caught up with the hype of flat/hinged beds and bought as an upgrade to the JRC. Ive never had any issues with mine

Trakker Superlight is the largest (standard size?), very lightweight considering the size. (it actually feels lighter than the other two to me ... if it isnt, then the difference is negligable). Its also the most comfortable in terms of size and mattress .... It is my favourite of them all and is the easiest to store a sleeping bag. I use all with a SIM

In reply to Post #14
The fact that people are saying they put a sim on it says it all to me

In reply to Post #17
I put a sim on all my beds, what I like about it is hiw firm it is

I think that there were two versions of the Wychwood Tactical bed. I had the 1st one, and while very light it was garbage. A sun lounger with a camo trim that sagged in the middle after a few months.

I had a Trakker Big Snooze on there and it weighed a ton, specially in the winter with the thermal cover. Replaced with a non MF Nash 5 season system. Much, much better and weighed less.

I think there is a MK2 Wychwood that has much better support, this must be the one that gets the hood feedback.

In reply to Post #19
I'm guessing mines the Mk2 though. Definatley no sag lol
It's like a wooden board

In reply to Post #19
Yes there was two the first mattress attached to frame via elastics the newer one is the lumber support method i had one of the later compact versions it was very firm

In reply to Post #21
I've never been convinced that the 'lumber support'
Isn't just cheaper. I mean what next? No elastic at all?

I say this as years ago I bought a budget prologic wide for the wife when it turned up material in the middle with elastic in the centre. Only perimeter head and foot. Absolutely NO mention
of Lumbar.

Same with the chairs. We used to have elastic all the way round.
Then it was just middle on the seat. Then some stopped elastic completely. No way are they comfortable for a good long sit LOL

In reply to Post #22
I've got the standard (which I've had for a while now) and the compact - both with SIMs and must say (other than minor build issues - I've lost the caps you mention and one of the adjustable legs is stiff and needs force to pull out) they are the most comfortable beds I've slept on bar none . . .far superior in terms of comfort to any previous gash bedchair I've owned (Indulgence Wideboys / SS3/4 etc) let alone Tracker / JRC etc

Suppose it boils down to preference - I hate beds that sag as they give me backache - these are much stiffer and do need a SIM for 'comfort' but in conjunction with a decent bag are a decent choice IMO

In reply to Post #23
Cheers mate. Well I'm going to persevere with it. The only reason I'm.fussy about the enscaps is the bedchair bag would get torn.

Comfort wise I knew it would be very firm . That doesn't bother me as it was bought fof overnighters.

However I may consider a SIM

In reply to Post #24
You dont need to spend ££ on SIMs IMO - I have the recommended ME Helium 3.8 on my compact (as it fits the padded area perfectly) and a cheaper but larger Amazon job (£17) on the standard thats lasted 2 seasons with no probs.

Arguably the standard with the cheaper SIM is the more comfy bed but thats only prob because its wider and longer . .
...I'm tall so always end up with my head right at the top of the bed on the compact. Whatever size you have choose a SIM that fits the width between the perimeter padding to ensure min movement and max comfort - leave both SIM and bag on both beds permanently with zero probs.

In reply to Post #1
Yep, they fell off mine too

In reply to Post #25
Belch can you show.me.again which amazon sim you use please?

I've finally got the replacement endcaps 'plug style'
Going next week so will finally be able to set it all up at home
And stick it in the bag to go.on the barrow. So.might as well
Put the Sim in too