I've got some shi ty Fox Mx alarms with receiver which are dying.
I need some replacements. I've looked at the price for Rx pluses and can't justify the £700
The three I've narrowed it down to are
Neville mk3
R4 Nash
Delkim TXi
I know the Nevs are very different but looking at battery life, silent modes and reliability which are the best option in people opinions.
I need some replacements. I've looked at the price for Rx pluses and can't justify the £700
The three I've narrowed it down to are
Neville mk3
R4 Nash
Delkim TXi
I know the Nevs are very different but looking at battery life, silent modes and reliability which are the best option in people opinions.
In reply to Post #1
You can pick up 2nd hand NTXRs for about 350 mate.
You can pick up 2nd hand NTXRs for about 350 mate.
In reply to Post #2
Love the NTXR'S, I would take a serious look at a good second hand set personally. Dont use the delks with braid it will over time knacker the vibration sensor.
Love the NTXR'S, I would take a serious look at a good second hand set personally. Dont use the delks with braid it will over time knacker the vibration sensor.
In reply to Post #3
Warranty wise where do you stand with NXTRS And Fox?
Warranty wise where do you stand with NXTRS And Fox?
In reply to Post #4
Fox won't fix them their long discontinued they tell you contact Dale Henwood aka Dalectronics who does all fox alarm repairs as it states in fox website under contacts
Fox won't fix them their long discontinued they tell you contact Dale Henwood aka Dalectronics who does all fox alarm repairs as it states in fox website under contacts
In reply to Post #3
delkim they have never in their time trading had a groove from braid in the sensor
delkim they have never in their time trading had a groove from braid in the sensor
In reply to Post #3
Eh? No it won't!
Eh? No it won't!
In reply to Post #7
I think you will find it cuts into the sensor over time. If it can grove metal guides, why do you think a bit of plastic would stand up to it?
I think you will find it cuts into the sensor over time. If it can grove metal guides, why do you think a bit of plastic would stand up to it?
In reply to Post #8
If that's the case, why haven't delkim (with their very very good customer service) ever replaced any?
And a sensor which has braid or line running over it for a matter of seconds under some light load, and a guide which had the braid or line running backwards and forwards over it under lots of tension can't really be compared,can they?!
If that's the case, why haven't delkim (with their very very good customer service) ever replaced any?
And a sensor which has braid or line running over it for a matter of seconds under some light load, and a guide which had the braid or line running backwards and forwards over it under lots of tension can't really be compared,can they?!
In reply to Post #1
My choice would be the Nevs
I've had the Txi-d's and didn't like them personally, There was nothing wrong with them I just missed the simplicity of the Nevs
Not owned the Nash alarms but a friend I was fishing with last month had a run and came out to find the line had cut at least an inch into the side of the alarm and he was only using mono,
I've never seen anything like it before.....
The battery life on the Nevs last forever and have a silent function and sensitivity, although this isn't as adjustable as the other 2 alarms
The cases are a bit fragile so you just need to be carful when tightening them down
My choice would be the Nevs
I've had the Txi-d's and didn't like them personally, There was nothing wrong with them I just missed the simplicity of the Nevs
Not owned the Nash alarms but a friend I was fishing with last month had a run and came out to find the line had cut at least an inch into the side of the alarm and he was only using mono,
I've never seen anything like it before.....
The battery life on the Nevs last forever and have a silent function and sensitivity, although this isn't as adjustable as the other 2 alarms
The cases are a bit fragile so you just need to be carful when tightening them down
In reply to Post #8
It only grooves metal guides as the braid is under stacks of pressure on the guide with a fish on over a much longer period of time. Theres hardly any pressure on the alarm sensor on a delkim with the line passing over the top of it.
It only grooves metal guides as the braid is under stacks of pressure on the guide with a fish on over a much longer period of time. Theres hardly any pressure on the alarm sensor on a delkim with the line passing over the top of it.
The not another alarm debate turned into a debate about braid and the same alarm 
In reply to Post #1
There is never going to be aright or wrong answer each alarm has its own following, take your pick pays your money.
There is never going to be aright or wrong answer each alarm has its own following, take your pick pays your money.
ATTs
In reply to Post #8
Isn't the sensor made of ceramic, not plastic?
Isn't the sensor made of ceramic, not plastic?
its laughable these bullshine claims of grooving
what bobbins are they using 4lb ones ?
what bobbins are they using 4lb ones ?
In reply to Post #9
And you know they havent replaced them how?
And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?
I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
And you know they havent replaced them how?
And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?
I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
In reply to Post #9
And you know they havent replaced them how?
And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?
I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
And you know they havent replaced them how?
And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?
I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
In reply to Post #17
Why, when so many others have made the same comments do you direct your messages at me? On more than 1 thread lately .
Why, when so many others have made the same comments do you direct your messages at me? On more than 1 thread lately .
In reply to Post #19
Because yours was the first reply, and it was you i replied to initially, and you were the only one that claimed delkim have never had to replace them.
Is that a sufficient answer?
And no idea what other thread you are talking about as i dont memorise such things, but its likely because i was replying to what you said
Because yours was the first reply, and it was you i replied to initially, and you were the only one that claimed delkim have never had to replace them.
Is that a sufficient answer?
And no idea what other thread you are talking about as i dont memorise such things, but its likely because i was replying to what you said
In reply to Post #20
The post before mine was the first actually
The post before mine was the first actually
In reply to Post #21
My bad, but the point i was making still stands
My bad, but the point i was making still stands
I remember a mate of mine turning up for an over-nighter and stating “I've had my Delks serviced and just got them back, they had the “Y” shaped sensors changed on all three they were worn out, they do it as standard when you have them serviced” That was back in the 90's
~ I presumed, they got changed when required?
~ I presumed, they got changed when required?
The y sensors are guaranteed for life against wear. They wouldnt be doing that unless they knew that braid wouldn't damage them.
In reply to Post #1
Sorry didn't mean for this to morph into a braid causing damage debate. Only mentioned it as a mate of mine told me about the problem having experienced it directly himself a few years ago. I have noticed some scoring on the vortex air guides on a couple of rods that I've used braid with so clearly it will bite into surfaces.
Personally I'd rather not take a risk and just use my Fox's for the braid situations only.
Sorry didn't mean for this to morph into a braid causing damage debate. Only mentioned it as a mate of mine told me about the problem having experienced it directly himself a few years ago. I have noticed some scoring on the vortex air guides on a couple of rods that I've used braid with so clearly it will bite into surfaces.
Personally I'd rather not take a risk and just use my Fox's for the braid situations only.
In reply to Post #10
If you fish in angles those line cuts can happen. I've got the same on my Nash r3.
Once that happened I've mailed the Nash gang via their contact info on the site. No replies..
If you fish in angles those line cuts can happen. I've got the same on my Nash r3.
Once that happened I've mailed the Nash gang via their contact info on the site. No replies..
In reply to Post #25
but you cant compare a rod ring ?
as there is a huge difference the line is under pressure against the ring............... and its nothing like a line running out on a bait runner with hardly any tension in comparison (unless your using a 4lb bobbin)
but you cant compare a rod ring ?
as there is a huge difference the line is under pressure against the ring............... and its nothing like a line running out on a bait runner with hardly any tension in comparison (unless your using a 4lb bobbin)
In reply to Post #27
Very few people use Baitrunners these days Gerry, the vast majority set their clutches so line can be only just released without the Rod being dragged in – common sense really as there's then no need to strike as the clutch tension causes self-hooking, also a Reel's spool spinning out of control causes mass line twist.
Braid has a habit of picking up fine sand and grit partials when wet, truth be told it wreaks anything it rubs against with time.
Very few people use Baitrunners these days Gerry, the vast majority set their clutches so line can be only just released without the Rod being dragged in – common sense really as there's then no need to strike as the clutch tension causes self-hooking, also a Reel's spool spinning out of control causes mass line twist.
Braid has a habit of picking up fine sand and grit partials when wet, truth be told it wreaks anything it rubs against with time.
In reply to Post #24
They are guaranteed, but if you read the rest of that section on their site, copy and pasted below for your convenience it does suggest ways of preventing damage, and that their service department are the only people who can replace them.
Sensor/Line Guide
The line guide has a lifetime guarantee against wear but the sensor itself does not and, although it is designed to withstand normal use, it is possible for an extreme shock to cause a permanent loss of sensitivity.
As the sensor/line guide is the most important part of the Delkim, it is essential to treat it with care and in particular DO NOT test it with any hard object or subject it to any abnormal pressure. Should it become damaged it can be only be replaced by our service department.
It is also recommended to leave a gap between the butt ring and the front or rear of the alarm to avoid damage to the sensor or mouldings.
They are guaranteed, but if you read the rest of that section on their site, copy and pasted below for your convenience it does suggest ways of preventing damage, and that their service department are the only people who can replace them.
Sensor/Line Guide
The line guide has a lifetime guarantee against wear but the sensor itself does not and, although it is designed to withstand normal use, it is possible for an extreme shock to cause a permanent loss of sensitivity.
As the sensor/line guide is the most important part of the Delkim, it is essential to treat it with care and in particular DO NOT test it with any hard object or subject it to any abnormal pressure. Should it become damaged it can be only be replaced by our service department.
It is also recommended to leave a gap between the butt ring and the front or rear of the alarm to avoid damage to the sensor or mouldings.
In reply to Post #27
Various materials used on rod rings now, some are deffinately better than others with braid. Delkim vebration sensor has a far smaller surface area than a single rod ring although the load is spread over all rings with the tip taking most bothe on the cast and retrieval.
Various materials used on rod rings now, some are deffinately better than others with braid. Delkim vebration sensor has a far smaller surface area than a single rod ring although the load is spread over all rings with the tip taking most bothe on the cast and retrieval.
In reply to Post #29
I've read that already, and it says about sudden shocks damaging them. I.e dropping the alarm or similar,not normal usage via nylon or braid?! And thats the sensor, not the line guide too which is the y piece in question?
I've read that already, and it says about sudden shocks damaging them. I.e dropping the alarm or similar,not normal usage via nylon or braid?! And thats the sensor, not the line guide too which is the y piece in question?
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