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Wraps and rod lengths (27 posts / 3,216 views)
chrispfox chrispfox
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Post #1 13 Feb 2022 07:44
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So there is probably a really simple explanation to this...

I've got a new 12'6 spod rod but my main rods are (currently) 12ft

What's the simple way to wrap up? Just do 12ft between sticks?

I've managed to confuse myself entirely

Thanks in advance
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #2 13 Feb 2022 08:05
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In reply to Post #1
Set the sticks 12 foot apart same as your fishing rods. The sticks are your range measurement, not rod length, 12 foot, 12 foot, 12 foot etc etc
chrispfox chrispfox
Posts: 600
Post #3 13 Feb 2022 08:12
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks mate I knew I was overthinking it
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #4 13 Feb 2022 09:40
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Your stick don't even have to be a rod length apart. Mine are always a distance apart that only I know, to confuse those buggers who get the binoculars out
chrispfox chrispfox
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Post #5 13 Feb 2022 10:44
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In reply to Post #4
Good plan. Also you can impress everyone by fishing at 75 wraps (sticks 4ft apart).
Baitman Baitman
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Post #6 13 Feb 2022 16:38
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In reply to Post #4
So 10ft apart then
Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
Posts: 157
Post #7 13 Feb 2022 20:48
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In reply to Post #1
Mine are 2.5m apart, so one complete wrap is 5m. Easier for me to work out and remember. I also use them when I'm match fishing.
Goose Goose
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Post #8 13 Feb 2022 22:10
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In reply to Post #7
Traitor, should be yards, we left the eu or so I'm told.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #9 13 Feb 2022 22:45
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On the very rare occasions I use distance sticks, they are set a rod length apart, which as far as I know is 3.65metres, being as I use 12foot rods.



Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
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Post #10 15 Feb 2022 15:45
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In reply to Post #8
Mine are 8' 2" apart, so one complete wrap is 16'4". Easier for me to work out and remember. I also use them when I'm match fishing.

delbouy39
Posts: 18
Post #11 18 Feb 2022 23:51
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In reply to Post #10
I think your confusing yourself there. I thought one wrap was from your first stick to the second, set at whatever length your rod laid down is? Not from first stick round second and back again?? In my eyes that's two wraps.. lol
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #12 19 Feb 2022 07:13
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I dont think it matters, some people get too hung up on things like this....wraps can be whatever you want them to be, as it used as a measure to cast to the same spot, as long as you set the sticks at the same distance, do the same wraps, whether that be double or single or whatever you want.....

There is no standard distance for either unless you want to pass this information onto someone else, as then you would both need to be singing from the same sheet as they say
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #13 19 Feb 2022 08:48
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The amusing thing is in a good wind you could be clipped up at 20 wraps, lovely, apart from the bow in the line means you are landing metres short, or even to the side of your spot and because you have no reference don't know how short, or even how far wide.

This is where aiming at a marker float can be useful
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #14 19 Feb 2022 09:44
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In reply to Post #13
My eyes have been opened recently. Fishing a hard spot in weed, the kind you would call a dinner plate size when casting to it. Yet I've seen the spot from a boat, and it's the size of a bivvy.

It's only 9 (12ft) wraps out. But the difference between the marker rod on braid and the fishing rods, is 1/3rd of a wrap. And in the wind you need to add up to half a wrap. Lead size makes way more of a difference than you think as well. You need more wraps for a lighter lead.

This is only at 9 wraps. Imagine the difference at 30 wraps. I dont think people are anywhere near as accurate as they think.
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #15 19 Feb 2022 12:39
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In reply to Post #14
Exactly, ive often said the same, rightly or wrongly i always spod to a marker float if possible.... There's so many variables which you cannot control...

Theoretically ( extreme example to make my point) you could cast into the air above your head hit the clip at 30 wraps, but only be fishing a few yards out.
BRB BRB
Posts: 1,423
Post #16 19 Feb 2022 12:53
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In reply to Post #15
For me, if my lead is cast on the correct line and in hitting the clip the bow is taken out and the lead falls on a tight line I am happy.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #17 19 Feb 2022 13:06
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In reply to Post #16
You wouldn't have got the bow out of the line casting on Wednesday evening!
I was having to aim around 10metres right to cope with the wind, and had to allow an extra 5metres on the clip to hit the spot.
Barbel-Arch Barbel-Arch
Posts: 157
Post #18 19 Feb 2022 19:13
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In reply to Post #11
Maybe I am. But I know how far out I'm fishing, and if I'm in a match and someone says they've been catching at 70m I know how to measure out that distance.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #19 20 Feb 2022 10:55
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In reply to Post #16
Yes, fool proof imo
bluebeat13
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Post #20 20 Feb 2022 11:11
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In reply to Post #17
The wind made a huge difference on Thursday night. At this time of year I'm getting the rods out in the dark so have to do it on feel and a bit of hope. Casting into that wind made it near impossible to feather the cast and drop on a tight line. Ended up having to use a 4.5oz lead to feel any sort of drop and even then I wasn't convinced.

Ended up putting three choddies out and blanking, not good angling but the conditions were extreme.
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #21 20 Feb 2022 16:51
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In reply to Post #20
Cant u just hit the clip, feathering is not the idea unless I'm missing something
frothey frothey
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Post #22 20 Feb 2022 17:09
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In reply to Post #21
If you hit the clip hard, it'll bounce back.....
BRB BRB
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Post #23 20 Feb 2022 17:15
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In reply to Post #22
Reduced by lowering the rod and aided by the stretch in your mono.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #24 20 Feb 2022 18:12
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In reply to Post #22
That's where the technique comes in, never hit the clip hard,
bluebeat13
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Post #25 20 Feb 2022 22:29
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In reply to Post #21
I still fish to the clip, but always feather the line down so that you don't hit the clip too hard and you are on a tight line.
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #26 20 Feb 2022 22:46
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In reply to Post #25
Got you, me 2,
fishingjack
Posts: 464
Post #27 22 Feb 2022 20:31
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Out of interest, is the UK the only place you find people fishing this way? Wraps.
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