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Armalite or Multicarp (22 posts / 2,189 views)
Craftycarper97
Posts: 119
Post #1 28 Jan 2022 17:26
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Question is Century Armalite Mk3 2.25 or Harrison multicarp 2.25?

Appreciate these rods cost a fair bit so would anyone have experienced both to make a comparison?

Thanks
noj
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Social photographer... Post #2 28 Jan 2022 18:08
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What do you plan on using it for?
There's things I'd pick a 1.75-2lb torrix or chimera for over a multi carp
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
Posts: 1,466
Post #3 28 Jan 2022 18:12
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I've had Mk1 Armalites since 1987, had them rebuilt in 2017, still use them for 90% of my fishing. Love 'em.

I have 2 x 2lb tc, and 1 x 2.25lb tc.
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #4 28 Jan 2022 18:46
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Other than centrepin use I preferred my 2.5 chimeras (rip) to my multi carp

It is the best rod I've used for centrepin use by far though

Craftycarper97
Posts: 119
Post #5 28 Jan 2022 19:00
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10 to 20lb in small ponds. No big chucks using 1-2oz weights with a stringer/small bag
Most ponds will be underarm flick or small overhead to 40-50yds.
Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #6 28 Jan 2022 20:52
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For me in that situation it would be the 2lb tc torrix built with good quality guides, 25mm butt to 8mm tip.
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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Post #7 28 Jan 2022 21:22
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A Torrix is never going to be a through action as a multicarp, though, is it?
Def. agree with you on the ringing.
Is the Multicarp blank even available now anyone know?
Goose Goose
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Post #8 28 Jan 2022 21:42
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No and neither would my second choice be, the chimera no3 but I've always favoured a rod with a bit of grunt in the lower butt section.
Orc_Slayer Orc_Slayer
Posts: 358
Post #9 28 Jan 2022 23:17
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I had the Armalite MK2's in 2.5lb TC. Amazing rod for playing fish on. Lovely through action and every lung was felt. Unfortunately I had them nicked but if I had the money, and could find a set of blanks, I'd get them again in a heart beat.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #10 29 Jan 2022 09:41
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Multicarp blanks still available 👍
SL24SL SL24SL
Posts: 162
Post #11 29 Jan 2022 20:00
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I've 2 x Armalite mk 2's.... 2.25 and a Mk 2 2lb er never use now ,,, anyone know roughly what are they worth ?
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
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Post #12 29 Jan 2022 20:14
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Wouldn't have thought they were worth loads - my lads customs built Armalites were some I bought off ebay and then had them rebuilt by Kevin Baynes (Anglers Workshop) in 2017. I got 3 x Mk 2's 2.5lb tc for under £120. But I guess I bought them in 2015, so may be worth more now. Depends on how they're built up I suppose.
Craftycarper97
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Post #13 30 Jan 2022 17:51
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Quite interested in what you would you choose a 1.75 - 2lb torrix or chimera for over a multicarp?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #14 30 Jan 2022 19:13
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I'd choose a torrix over a multi carp for pretty much everything. Personal preference for a more modern action and deeper down power so I could have a softer tip but cast heavier loads.
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #15 30 Jan 2022 21:11
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It's a beautiful players rod, but is quite limited.
I love using it and spend a lot of time fishing with a pin, but I've been using an interceptor MR rod for floater fishing over the multi carp since I broke the chimeras.

If you want it for casting straight leads up to about 1.5 oz shortish distances it's a great blank, but it's sloppy and inaccurate if you push it. The chimeras didn't give much up in the playing front, but were a much more versatile fishing rod, having more range, broader weight range and more accurate casting.

All that is reversed when you stick a pin on the rods tho, the crispness of the chimera made casting difficult, and I had a very narrow range of weights I could time a cast with, where the multi carp is really forgiving of a wide range of weights, and quite forgiving if you push your luck trying to cast further. The slow recovery and loading the mid section sooner really helps when casting with a centrepin
Goose Goose
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Post #16 30 Jan 2022 22:59
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Interesting about using a pin, used a rolling pin on my 2lb torrix with leads and feeders. Always fancied getting a Harrison float rod built for chub fishing on the pin but which one.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #17 30 Jan 2022 23:02
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I'd agree on using a pin with softer rods mate. Do you reckon it could've been the tc too? The 1.5lb Avon is my favourite rod for the pin (especially with a float, free line or single lead shot and hookbait) but with a lead or feeder a 1.75 torrix is pretty capable
duggs
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Post #18 31 Jan 2022 06:24
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With a rolling pin it's much like casting a fixed spool, it doesn't have the same demands as casting a standard pin, where you have to load the rod, time the swing, spin, release and brake, all at just the right moment.
My 15ft gti is great, if a little heavy compared to other rods in the price bracket. The S.U. versions are easier to cast further but since it only drifts back to the near Bank anyway I stick to the standard tip. its only the tip that's different between standard and su models, I have both tips but only really use the su tip for deep floodwater conditions, big floats and big smelly baits for barbel. I use it with a youngs atom loaded with braid and keep rigs on pole winders, it's not unusual for me to swap between fine dace rigs and beefy barbel rigs in a short dawn trip.
I'm not sure how a rolling pin would get on with small eyes, it generates so much line twist I'd imagine even braid would start grabbing eventually. And sod retrieving a long trot with one

I'm not sure about test curve noj, I've got fastish speci rods from a 1lb up, I have a narrow weight range with all of them if I'm spinning the reel rather than just pulling loops. I can cast the multi carp pretty well with a couple of Swan shot link leger or a 3 oz lead
Goose Goose
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Post #19 31 Jan 2022 08:52
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I'm used to casting a conventional pin as I have a youngs Bob James, the gti is the one I have had recommended on numerous occasions from the 13ft to 15ft both standard or su. I've only ever used 13ft float rods, mainly drennan, had made my mind up to go for the 14ft but still unsure, like you it would be used for a variety of species from silvers to the occasional barbel but predominantly chub.
bmthman bmthman
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Post #20 31 Jan 2022 09:27
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In reply to Post #16
Mark Tunley does a great specimen float rod built on a Harrison blank. Absolutely superb for float fishing for big chub.
duggs
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Post #21 31 Jan 2022 10:33
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That's where the gti beats the acolyte, I couldn't use one of those in the same way. I was all set to get a 14ft acolyte for the lighter stuff but started hearing lots of reports of rods snapping.

I like 15ft but it does need a heavy reel to balance it, I can't find a listed weight for the atom but I'd guess its heavier than the bj.
its a shame you didn't mention it a couple of weeks back, I would have been happy to meet somewhere for you to try it out, I'm a bit stitched up time wise until April now beyond the odd hour on the wandle.

I'd like to try a 13ft susu for carp but I don't think it could better the multi carp
Goose Goose
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Post #22 31 Jan 2022 11:14
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