hi, has anybody any idea on the price for digging and removal , when digging a new lake , price per acre, or how the pricing works?
In reply to Post #1
I have a feeling that they don't charge "per acre" but more a hire charge for the hours, day, week etc for the digger and same with "Dumpers" etc you may need to remove the soil and dump elsewhere on the site or even removal from the site by lorry.
You may even find it cheaper on a weekend when contractors/builders are not using them and the hire company happy to just have someone using them. That is how we have done it in the past. Plus it is cheaper if you have your own operators for the digger and dumpers as you only then pay for plant hire and fuel.
If you google "How much to hire a digger" you will get some rough prices.
I may be wrong, but, it cost about £29,000 to dig a 4 acre lake, 2 diggers, 2 dumpers, 4 operators, aprox a month and that price does tie in with what I found googling "How much does it cost to dig a lake" etc. Plus it was a discounted price and also the work took longer than planned but the contractors had to comply with the contract despite wanting more to finish the job.
I have a feeling that they don't charge "per acre" but more a hire charge for the hours, day, week etc for the digger and same with "Dumpers" etc you may need to remove the soil and dump elsewhere on the site or even removal from the site by lorry.
You may even find it cheaper on a weekend when contractors/builders are not using them and the hire company happy to just have someone using them. That is how we have done it in the past. Plus it is cheaper if you have your own operators for the digger and dumpers as you only then pay for plant hire and fuel.
If you google "How much to hire a digger" you will get some rough prices.
I may be wrong, but, it cost about £29,000 to dig a 4 acre lake, 2 diggers, 2 dumpers, 4 operators, aprox a month and that price does tie in with what I found googling "How much does it cost to dig a lake" etc. Plus it was a discounted price and also the work took longer than planned but the contractors had to comply with the contract despite wanting more to finish the job.
I know just the lads........couldn't fcuk this up, surely.
In reply to Post #1
Civil Engineering muckshifting firms usually quote on cubic meters to be excavated.
They will take into account..
Material type...some bulks up far more than others and wet ground adds even more.
Haul distance.
Landscaping of excavated material or total removal off site.
Anticipated flooding in the case of a lake.
An hourly charge is the last thing a client wants...it's a licence to piss about.
A quote for the whole job can go vastly over budget as the contractor can claim all manner of extras.
The bigger the job, the less the cubic meter rate.
One would certainly need to see the Quantity Surveyors figures before work commenced.
A contractor would be over the moon to make 10% profit.
On a project involving water I would certainly choose a contractor who had experience and could provide
references of similar work even over a much lower tender. Once filled and any failure occurs then it becomes a
very expensive proposition to repair.
Civil Engineering muckshifting firms usually quote on cubic meters to be excavated.
They will take into account..
Material type...some bulks up far more than others and wet ground adds even more.
Haul distance.
Landscaping of excavated material or total removal off site.
Anticipated flooding in the case of a lake.
An hourly charge is the last thing a client wants...it's a licence to piss about.
A quote for the whole job can go vastly over budget as the contractor can claim all manner of extras.
The bigger the job, the less the cubic meter rate.
One would certainly need to see the Quantity Surveyors figures before work commenced.
A contractor would be over the moon to make 10% profit.
On a project involving water I would certainly choose a contractor who had experience and could provide
references of similar work even over a much lower tender. Once filled and any failure occurs then it becomes a
very expensive proposition to repair.
In reply to Post #1
A local fishery owner once told me that all of his lakes were constructed so that there was no need to remove the spoil off site. If you wanted say a 6ft deep lake, you dug out 3ft and all of the spoil is deposited /landscaped around the edge to build up the depth to 6ft. Saves a lot of money. And years after their construction, you can't tell, they just look like a "normal" lake.
A local fishery owner once told me that all of his lakes were constructed so that there was no need to remove the spoil off site. If you wanted say a 6ft deep lake, you dug out 3ft and all of the spoil is deposited /landscaped around the edge to build up the depth to 6ft. Saves a lot of money. And years after their construction, you can't tell, they just look like a "normal" lake.
In reply to Post #5
Or you could dig another hole and put the spoil in that
Or you could dig another hole and put the spoil in that
In reply to Post #5
I occasionally fish the Islands Lake near Warminster and they have done just that. Each swim is a bay and you have an Island in front of you so they is no chance of anyone else casting into your swim and you aren't overlooked. The trees they planted have grown on and is a lovely little lake. Hard to believe it was a bare field only about 8 years ago and the fish and coming on well.
I occasionally fish the Islands Lake near Warminster and they have done just that. Each swim is a bay and you have an Island in front of you so they is no chance of anyone else casting into your swim and you aren't overlooked. The trees they planted have grown on and is a lovely little lake. Hard to believe it was a bare field only about 8 years ago and the fish and coming on well.
Has anyone had any experience building their own lake?
Interested to hear if you can dig up any piece of land and create a lake or if is there a lot more to it. Would the lakebed sediment dictate the type of eco system you would create for example? Some lakes purposely introduce weed beds and small fry whereas others might opt for aerators.
Interested to hear if you can dig up any piece of land and create a lake or if is there a lot more to it. Would the lakebed sediment dictate the type of eco system you would create for example? Some lakes purposely introduce weed beds and small fry whereas others might opt for aerators.
In reply to Post #1
Doesn't really work like that. If the grounds a **** dig it'll totally change what can be done in a day. You'll get a ball park figure but that's all it'll be
Doesn't really work like that. If the grounds a **** dig it'll totally change what can be done in a day. You'll get a ball park figure but that's all it'll be
In reply to Post #6
A la porridge 👍
A la porridge 👍
I had a long chat with a guy who dug his own lake and runs it as a fishery. He was very clever. His test holes for the water table showed a big deposit of gravel. So he did a deal with an aggregate company. He gave them the dimensions of the lake. They dug it for a greatly reduced rate on the understanding they could keep all the gravel they extracted. Win win.
In reply to Post #1
Work out the cubic meterage area x depth
Bulk digging is usually £10 per cube
Removal can be from £35 per cube if its clean and not
Contaminated you may need to get WAC test to determinethat
Where abouts are you located
Work out the cubic meterage area x depth
Bulk digging is usually £10 per cube
Removal can be from £35 per cube if its clean and not
Contaminated you may need to get WAC test to determinethat
Where abouts are you located
In reply to Post #12
lancashire, it was a family member looking at buying land with the sole aim to make a fishery- due to all the local lakes and clubs brimming with people, thinking there might be a possible good longterm investment, but from what i hear, alot of fisherys dont get the returns they wished for, and alot of the ones that are quids in, was dug on lands already owned by farming familys , so much less outlay
lancashire, it was a family member looking at buying land with the sole aim to make a fishery- due to all the local lakes and clubs brimming with people, thinking there might be a possible good longterm investment, but from what i hear, alot of fisherys dont get the returns they wished for, and alot of the ones that are quids in, was dug on lands already owned by farming familys , so much less outlay
In reply to Post #13
Does anyone any companies in the south that have experience in doing an appraisal and digging lakes and can quote on a project ideally someone in Hampshire?
Does anyone any companies in the south that have experience in doing an appraisal and digging lakes and can quote on a project ideally someone in Hampshire?
In reply to Post #14
Speak to Tony Cambell at Islands Carp Lake 👍
Speak to Tony Cambell at Islands Carp Lake 👍
In reply to Post #13
I'm not familiar with the ground your way but down here we often need to line the lakes with clay.
If that's the case then source, transport and applying of the clay would also need to be considered.
I'm not familiar with the ground your way but down here we often need to line the lakes with clay.
If that's the case then source, transport and applying of the clay would also need to be considered.
In reply to Post #14
Maybe midkent fisheries ?
Maybe midkent fisheries ?
Hawkhurst fish farm have a lake digging business beside the fishery
In reply to Post #12
£35 a cube to remove? Sounds very expensive
£35 a cube to remove? Sounds very expensive
In reply to Post #19
That's generally the going rate in the construction industry just priced a job in reading with 8000m3 of bulk
dig cart away rate was 38
If as mentioned before if there is gravel present then there will be a trade off
That's generally the going rate in the construction industry just priced a job in reading with 8000m3 of bulk
dig cart away rate was 38
If as mentioned before if there is gravel present then there will be a trade off
In reply to Post #20
I work in demolition and that's quite a bit more than we pay for muck away
I work in demolition and that's quite a bit more than we pay for muck away
In reply to Post #13
...just add water.
...just add water.
In reply to Post #22
Not sure who would gain financially but I'm sure a lake owner near me got paid around 80 quid per lorry load to split his lake, had dozens of lorries in each day for days.
Not sure who would gain financially but I'm sure a lake owner near me got paid around 80 quid per lorry load to split his lake, had dozens of lorries in each day for days.
In reply to Post #19
£230 a load round my way
£230 a load round my way
In reply to Post #25
Is that pit 4? Wondered what had happened to it. Had a walk round it today, I fished pit 1 for a few bites and had a nice walk round.
Is that pit 4? Wondered what had happened to it. Had a walk round it today, I fished pit 1 for a few bites and had a nice walk round.
In reply to Post #26
Yeah, pit four used to be a cracking lake. For the majority of it now, in the summer a marker pops up within a foot or two.
Yeah, pit four used to be a cracking lake. For the majority of it now, in the summer a marker pops up within a foot or two.
In reply to Post #20
Cheers for the replies guys
Cheers for the replies guys
There are 5 good YouTube vlogs on a page called southwest carp hunter. He has just dug a lake and he goes into some good detail
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