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Shimano tech black (53 posts / 3,841 views)
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Post #1 8 Mar 2021 12:24
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Has the tech black been discontinued? Can't find it anywhere
TeeCee
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Post #2 8 Mar 2021 13:04
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They're still about.

Danson's only have the one.(loads of others elsewhere) https://dansononline.co.uk/product/shimano-aero-technium-14000-xtc/

Might be worth speaking to Danson's and get some on order - they do the best prices I've seen on Techs.
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Post #3 8 Mar 2021 13:31
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I mean the line not the reels mate
Coffo Coffo
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Post #4 8 Mar 2021 16:40
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I think it has been discontinued. Shimano have a habit of doing this. Catana first, now technium black.
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #5 8 Mar 2021 17:20
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for the life of me I don't know why shimano have discontinued this line,not as if they make any other decent lines to use instead.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #6 8 Mar 2021 18:08
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I think it has been discounted bud I've been using it for years but this year I couldn't find it absolutely anywhere so moved to synchro xt
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Post #7 8 Mar 2021 18:57
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What's the stretch like on the syncro stuff?
Jimmers532
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Post #8 8 Mar 2021 21:35
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I messaged total fishing tackle about it over Xmas and they said it was on back order and was expecting delivery in 5-6 weeks, so hopefully it is actually going to be on sale again soon,
Busted
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Post #9 8 Mar 2021 22:26
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I heard that this was happening last spring so i bought 15 spools of it in 12lb. should last me a while
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #10 8 Mar 2021 23:13
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It is still on Shimano's website so I'm not sure if it is discontinued or not
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #11 8 Mar 2021 23:29
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It's only a guess but the UK packaging was different to rest of the world. Maybe it was case of aligning manufacture so that they only needed one for everywhere?
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #12 9 Mar 2021 07:24
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Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #13 9 Mar 2021 07:29
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Should get a year out of them if you keep them in the dark.

In all seriousness I'd do similar if I knew something I liked was going to be hard to get in the future.

How long would you keep line for? A few years? Several?
Jimmers532
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Post #14 9 Mar 2021 07:45
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Well I emailed total fishing tackle again and they have replied saying they think it's been discontinued now ! What would you stop making one of the best lines on the market 😩 proper baffled me that, what's the next best thing now then ?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #15 9 Mar 2021 08:59
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If stored out of sunlight and extremes of temperature I'd keep it many many years and still use it.
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Post #16 9 Mar 2021 10:39
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well looks like im not getting any tech black any time soon. what would people recommend in place of it? my main reason for using tech black was the low stretch and how tough it was. ive only used that and fluoro for past 10 years i think so i have no clue what other lines are like

like i so low stretch is top of my list, from what i can see there is touchdown, cm90, esp syncro (not sure if this is low stretch) id be struggling after that so any recommendations will be welcome
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #17 9 Mar 2021 10:43
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gardner gthd is low stretch
Bubblefree
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Post #18 9 Mar 2021 11:07
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Have you tried Johnson Ross? I bought some from there not so long ago
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Post #19 9 Mar 2021 11:41
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I did see it in there but says the 15lb is .35mm but it's always been .38mm . I've emailed them to ask which they have
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #20 9 Mar 2021 11:50
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I've noticed that before, and is the reason for my post#11
JK JK
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Post #21 9 Mar 2021 12:30
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When it was sold in tins the 15lb rated Tech black was always 0.35 in Europe and 0.38 here, would think it's all rated the same now in the different packaging but not 100% on that.

It's not the line it used to be I can say that for certain...glad I emptied a few shops in France when I did.
Stedill Stedill
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Post #22 9 Mar 2021 13:16
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The stuff from europe that was labelled up as .35 was actually .38 when measured well the spool of .35 I ordered from a european seller on ebay was anyway
scozza
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Post #23 9 Mar 2021 16:42
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When it was sold in tins the 15lb rated Tech black

I used that a few years ago now and it's was around £28 a tin as i remember?

I spooled up more recently with some “tech black” that came in a plastic box, soon ripped it off and went back to ESP XT

As I remember the tech black it is what I would call a line of it's own with a weird extra slick coating, when you inspected it you could see all the nicks in it after a while, it was proper tough stuff

The last lot I got was utter crap, felt wiry in comparison and did not feel the same at all to me, could be wrong? Either way I won't touch it again, I am guessing it's a rebranded cheap Crap Alternative?
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Post #24 9 Mar 2021 17:00
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Syncro xt sold out everywhere in 15lb can't get that stuff anywhere
scozza
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Post #25 9 Mar 2021 19:22
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Quality line mate, does not surprise me. Tried EBay?
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Post #26 9 Mar 2021 20:04
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Yep not even eBay has any
scozza
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Post #27 9 Mar 2021 20:09
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Wow, glad I don't need any then at the moment. I'm guessing everybody is spooled up and ready to go
mark1009
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Post #28 9 Mar 2021 20:20
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I thought I had bought some , but it turned out to be the loaded version. I'll use it anyway, but it will teach me to double check what I'm clicking on before I order again.
Panander Panander
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Post #29 9 Mar 2021 20:21
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In reply to Post #27
Mono shortage seems widespread at the moment. You will struggle to get CM90 also (18lb is about but no 15)
Conoflex1965
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Post #30 10 Mar 2021 06:42
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Ordered a spool of 12 lb dark Technium from Club 2000 carp tackle and waiting for it to be delivered , I'll let you know if it's the black one if it turns up . The code was correct but it was listed alongside Invisitec .
Conoflex1965
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Post #31 10 Mar 2021 18:01
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Delivered today , yes it's 12lb 0.32 1100 m Technium black .I think they had more in stock .First time I've used them , I ordered it Sunday and delivered today , good service 👍 It was £14.99 .
carpbandit84 carpbandit84
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Post #32 13 Mar 2021 23:23
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12lb that's light, hopefully you have no snag nor weed to contend with. Grateful for distance tho
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #33 14 Mar 2021 00:05
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Unless conditions dictate isn't 12lb what most people use
Nairnp Nairnp
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Post #34 14 Mar 2021 08:50
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12lb technium black could still pull a tree out of the water.

Used both the 15 and 12 in the past and never once had it snap.

Jimmers532
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Post #35 14 Mar 2021 09:22
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I thought the same until I pulled half a pallet out of a park lake with it 😂 never had it go once and all the waters I fish are full of snags.
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #36 14 Mar 2021 10:33
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I only use 12lb line on my lighter Rods and linear X reels have used it on ss2600 and for a long time Emblems.
15lb to 20lb on ISOs and Tourney 6ks
Halfcentury
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Post #37 14 Mar 2021 11:34
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Always used to but an increasing number of venues have a minimum 15lb rule.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #38 14 Mar 2021 12:24
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That suggests to me that even over time with the improvement of fishing lines a decrease in angling skills has outweighed that and so fisheries feel the need to stipulate a minimum of 15lb
Halfcentury
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Post #39 14 Mar 2021 12:39
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That and the appalling role models and lack of responsibility on and in all media. Money, money, money, greed, greed, greed, sell sell sell.
Less and less real respect for the fish and their environment. How do beginners learn.

Bitter and twisted, Wessex.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #40 14 Mar 2021 12:50
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Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #41 14 Mar 2021 16:03
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Most lakes near me say at least 15lb is to be used, my syndicates will ban you if you use 12lb line. Although I do agree with you I think 12lb is absolutely fine just some people don't no how to use it
g4fne g4fne
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Post #42 14 Mar 2021 16:25
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im cuious how anyone mignt be able to prove you are using 12lb Technium on a minimum 15lb rule water?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #43 14 Mar 2021 16:30
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Also it could be on some venues people using bait boats and baiting spoons putting bait nearer to snags?

@g4fne
Good point!
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #44 14 Mar 2021 16:39
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Yeah I didn't think of that mate good point, either way then that's down to user error again
carpbandit84 carpbandit84
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Post #45 14 Mar 2021 17:01
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As I said if you're fishing a clear lake it's not an issue, I only tried it in 12 once and it broke on me due to the savage bars that inhabit the lake. Stripped it off and went for 15lb version. Never went again after that. It's rarely about the strength and weight of the fish, its what it's rubbing on on the bottom where abrasion resistance comes into play. I couldn't break the 12lb on a straight pull between my hands, but rub it over a piece of sharp gravel it's curtains.
Halfcentury
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Post #46 14 Mar 2021 17:16
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On one thread on here there were some syndicates getting their line tested by bailiffs with micrometres.??????
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #47 14 Mar 2021 17:27
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So if that water said 15lb minimum breaking strain and they say that should be 0.35mm,what would happen if I was using fox exocet in 16lb but its only 0.33mm.I have met the requirements on breaking strain but not diameter.They should state diameter not b/strain as the rule
Halfcentury
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Post #48 14 Mar 2021 20:21
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Beats me. Takes all sorts. Good question though.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #49 14 Mar 2021 20:34
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carpbandit84 carpbandit84
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Post #50 14 Mar 2021 20:41
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My syndicates say 0.35 minimum - they reference 15lb as a guide buy No super thin wonder lines. In otherwords its all about diameter
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #51 14 Mar 2021 20:51
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In reply to Post #50
how it should be
Conoflex1965
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Post #52 14 Mar 2021 21:26
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In reply to Post #32
I don't use it for distance as it's a small water , I think 12lb is sufficient for the fish I'm targeting singles , doubles and possibly one or two twenties , yes it's weedy but not excessively . I'm using 11ft baby Ballistas 2.5 tc .I use 15lb for a larger weedier water I fish , different tackle for different waters . I'm sure I used to use 8lb Sylcast when I started fishing for carp , how things have changed .
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #53 14 Mar 2021 22:58
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In reply to Post #52
8lb Sylcast sorrel or Maxima with a shock leader for long distance!
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