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Old school. (19 posts / 6,988 views)
Beep
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Post #1 25 Nov 2020 20:20
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Evening chaps,
I thought it would be interesting to have a thread that talks about, and lists, base mix recipes that have had history for being great baits old or recent.
I'll start with a couple.

Premier fish mix.

25% capelin meal.
25% sardine and anchovy.
25% Sluis clo.
15% acid casein.
10% lactalbumin.

And the,

Big fish mix.

2oz capelin meal.
3oz sardine and anchovy.
3oz white fishmeal.
3oz Sluis clo.
2oz acid casein.
1/2oz kelp powder.
1/2oz robin red.
1oz nutrapro.
1oz nutralac.
kizzi
Posts: 2,526
Post #2 25 Nov 2020 21:57
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In reply to Post #1
I can't vouch for the accuracy but this is what I heard was in Rod Hutchinson's High Protein base mix

50% Casein
20% Lactalbumin
20% Calcium Caseinate
10% Soya Protein Isolate

or

40% Casein
20% Lactalbumin
20% Calcium Caseinate
20% Soya Protein Isolate

I used this base mix for a short while but found I did better on a bird food, liver, Robin red bait glugged with body building cherry flavoured aminos
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,573
Post #3 25 Nov 2020 22:22
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In reply to Post #1
And for the birdfood fans

50% Red Factor, or Nectarblend, or Cede
50% Semolina

Cambscarper1974 Cambscarper1974
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Post #4 26 Nov 2020 10:00
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Atlantic Heat

300 LT
75 PDF
75 WPC
150 CLO
100 Full fat soya
100 semo
100 maize meal
50 kelp
50 crushed hemp
50 RR
10 Chilli powder
5 fenugreek
15 sea salt

6 eggs
15mil cod liver oil
10 mil Nash shellfish concentrate
6 drops black pepper
2 tspn glm
1 tspn betaine

If anyone has the exact recipe for Enervite I'd be a very happy man!
poms
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Post #5 26 Nov 2020 10:26
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In reply to Post #4
Cambs, I have the ingredients as you likely do, levels shouldn't be too off the original, the 'mixed spice' would be ???
Then the RR at that time was the real deal, nothing like nowdays so you would have to compensate for that too.

One of the very best baits ever made IMHO
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #6 26 Nov 2020 15:07
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70% Nectarblend
20% Robin Red
10% wheat gluten

...worked like a charm.
Bren987 Bren987
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Post #7 26 Nov 2020 17:18
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In reply to Post #4
Cambs you have pm
Beep
Posts: 78
Post #8 26 Nov 2020 18:37
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In reply to Post #4
Thanks all it's nice to reverse engineer some classic mixes.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #9 26 Nov 2020 18:58
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In reply to Post #8
The one I'd absolutely love is the original activ8.

I've seen it said several times that it changed due to an ingredient becoming unavailable, but no one seems to know which ingredients it was. In fact even after all these years there still doesn't seem to be an agreement of whether it actually contained fishmeal or not. I been told that it was designed by Allen Clarke but again I'm not sure if that is also rumour as others have said he designed original grange

If we could find out the original recipe then perhaps there might be a suitable replacement using a modern ingredient.
Beep
Posts: 78
Post #10 26 Nov 2020 19:08
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In reply to Post #9
Absolutely, aciv-8 was an amazing bait, I can remember the meaty flavour like it was yesterday.
scaley&dark
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Post #11 26 Nov 2020 19:20
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In reply to Post #9
RE: The original grange, I think you may find that 'Secret Jon' gave that idea to mainline

christian
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Post #12 26 Nov 2020 20:38
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In reply to Post #10
My friend used active 8 very successfully so of course I had to try and copy it, I used meat and bone meal with fishmeal, liver and yeast and John Baker's meatball and Hutchinson SSA. Whether I was anywhere near I have no idea but it certainly smelt close and was one of the most successful baits I've ever made.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #13 26 Nov 2020 20:59
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In reply to Post #11
Ah so Allen Clarke must be Activ8. I've heard a couple of different versions.
scozza
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Post #14 26 Nov 2020 21:02
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Interesting one Activ 8. I have rolled a bit. The base mix ingredients used to be on the buckets, very basic ingredients really and was one of their cheaper bases. I always thought the magic was in the liquid, sugars, enzymes, that activated the bait when mixed, hence the name, activator who knows?

The bait was said to have 8 activ ingredients in it, which looking back at the base mix ingredients I would say it wasn't those, who knows?

Activ 8

Their CELL products are interesting too lol

Somebody does
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #15 26 Nov 2020 21:45
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In reply to Post #13
A8 was keramine and boiled ham flavour I recall.
AnglingDays&Way AnglingDays&Way
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Post #16 3 Dec 2020 12:17
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In reply to Post #15
Also contained vecon like the Grange CSL
DarthMullet
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Post #17 3 Dec 2020 12:53
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In reply to Post #14
Mate of mine "copied" Activ8 at the time it was dominating many lakes, just used the same attractors - we christened it Scally8 - it did just as well.
bluebeat13
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Post #18 3 Dec 2020 14:55
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Does anyone know a good ham flavour available today?
kells kells
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Post #19 3 Dec 2020 22:25
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In reply to Post #18
Richworth used to do a boiled ham flavour
Whether that's still available I dont no?

Could try British aqua feeds or Catchit labs people seem to rate them.
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