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Proper job pop ups ? (26 posts / 5,470 views)
Carpy-Angler Carpy-Angler
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Post #1 26 Sep 2020 13:59
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Anyone know the best size to use with size 4 Mugga for a Ronnie rig ? 13mm is what I'm thinking ?
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #2 26 Sep 2020 15:10
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In reply to Post #1
13mm be fine. There all plenty boyant enough
Aldi Aldi
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Post #3 26 Sep 2020 20:18
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In reply to Post #1
If you're deciding which to order he does the mixed pots so you can chop and change and see which works with your rigs, that was the route I took and it opens up options
Busted
Posts: 1,883
Post #4 26 Sep 2020 21:20
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In reply to Post #1
I use 11mm with a size 4 mugga. Still need loads of putty
Darkieallard
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Post #5 26 Sep 2020 23:17
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I use 11mm on a Ronnie and there plenty buoyant enough.
scoobydan_84
Posts: 257
Post #6 27 Sep 2020 08:02
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In reply to Post #3
The best option for sure, I have also found they trim down very nicely with a sharp knife so if you like the smaller ones the bigger ones don't go to waste.
RPCARPY RPCARPY
Posts: 181
Post #7 3 Dec 2020 12:23
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Sorry to hijack but does anyone know if a AAA shot will balance out an 11mm proper jobs pop up? On a simple rig for solid bags.
Halfcentury
Posts: 1,284
Post #8 3 Dec 2020 13:40
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In reply to Post #7
Why not just test it yourself. Water, pint glass, 5 minutes. See which size shot is best for your purpose. Simples.
RPCARPY RPCARPY
Posts: 181
Post #9 3 Dec 2020 15:34
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In reply to Post #8
Well I would but I don't have any 11mm proper job pop ups... just wondering if anyone else has and could help.
woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #10 3 Dec 2020 15:50
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In reply to Post #9
I have just tried it for you with a size 7 hook no ring or ring swivel just hair rig, a aaa shot easily takes it down a bb and no1 shot also takes it down
RPCARPY RPCARPY
Posts: 181
Post #11 3 Dec 2020 15:53
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In reply to Post #10
You're a star - thank you very much
MunkyFunK74 MunkyFunK74
Posts: 7,324
Post #12 7 Dec 2020 06:50
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In reply to Post #1
I use 11mm proper job squids on ronnies, still need putty.
This with a very sharp hook flies back into their mouth.
11mm are plenty bouyant enough ive found, in fact ive not touched my 13mm at all.
Darley Darley
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Post #13 8 Dec 2020 15:52
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In reply to Post #12
He (Kevin) used to give a guide on what sinks what on his website.
yonny yonny
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Post #14 8 Dec 2020 15:55
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In reply to Post #13
Still does:

https://www.properjobpopups.co.uk/user_tips.php
swiftycarp
Posts: 1,035
Post #15 8 Dec 2020 17:08
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In reply to Post #12
Sorry to hijack the thread...but...

Id be really interested to hear opinions on small hook baits.
Why do you think 11mm is a better hook bait than something larger?
trentcarper69 trentcarper69
Posts: 1,438
Post #16 9 Dec 2020 06:45
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In reply to Post #15
Because carp get hammered on 15mm baits
Riggy Riggy
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Post #17 9 Dec 2020 06:56
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In reply to Post #15
Mark, I think it is venue specific on my two current venues one I use home made 15mm cork ball pop ups to good effect and dont feel the need to go smaller the other larger pit I fish 11 & 13mm PJPU's outfish larger hook baits (in my opinion/findings). Cant put my finger on why perhaps on the larger pit as had been said they have been hammered on larger baits or perhaps when particle/pellets were allowed (boilie only now)most food items were small which may condition the carp to look for smaller items?

Back to original post in my opinion you cannot get better pop ups than PJPU's for buoyancy an 11 or 13mm bait will hold up a large hook in deep water for days!!

Michael
yonny yonny
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Post #18 9 Dec 2020 08:24
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In reply to Post #15
Small hookbaits are the one if you're fishing over bits n pieces.
Over boilie I'd not bother with a small'n.
MARKerz
Posts: 1,954
Post #19 9 Dec 2020 09:08
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In reply to Post #16
And they can tell the difference between 11mm & 15mm?!
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
Post #20 9 Dec 2020 10:25
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Up untill March time I will fish small 12mm wafters/ pop ups on my syndicate just because during the inter fishing over small bits like hemp and corn with boilie chops/ crumb seems to do a much better job for me
bluebeat13
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Post #21 9 Dec 2020 21:53
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In reply to Post #19
If I can look into the water as a human with human and clearly tell the difference, I reckon a fish with vision that has evolved under water for hundreds/thousands of years probably can.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #22 10 Dec 2020 07:45
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In reply to Post #21
I don't think the question is can they see it but does it actually mean anything to them what they are seeing?
swiftycarp
Posts: 1,035
Post #23 10 Dec 2020 08:05
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In reply to Post #15
Interesting thoughts on this and thanks for the replies...
So, if we think a fish can tell the difference on hook bait size what are our thoughts on using smaller hooks with say 11mm pop ups?

darkoL darkoL
Posts: 1,822
Post #24 10 Dec 2020 08:06
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In reply to Post #23
or the use of 28mm in your face pop up
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,573
Post #25 10 Dec 2020 08:54
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In reply to Post #21
Looking too deep into it mate.
If a carp COULD tell the visual difference from bait to bait by 4mm, we would all be playing golf.

As a fish, they cannot see what they actually are picking up, or sampling. Hence Chemoreception.
The bigger the fish the bigger the 'blind spot' by the mouth, as their eyes are on the top of the head.

Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
Posts: 314
Post #26 20 Dec 2020 12:14
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In reply to Post #25
I've watched carp rotate on the spot in front of a bait to check it out
This blind spot is obviously there but this carp knew how to get around it 😂

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