A couple of my waters have pretty long walks from the car park through boggy ground and to be honest I lot of the time I can't be arsed to barrow round the other side.
At the minute I have my gear in bags on the barrow and nothing on my back. I'm considering doing away with the carryall and switching over to a small rucksack, the thinking being if the barrow is lighter it will be easier to push. However I will then have the weight on my back which I don't now. Just wondering whether you guys think they'd be any benefit to doing this or will I gain with one but loose with the other? And still end up not walking right round. Funds don't run to a power porter at the min and my barrow is so old it wouldn't be worth an aftermarket motor add on.
At the minute I have my gear in bags on the barrow and nothing on my back. I'm considering doing away with the carryall and switching over to a small rucksack, the thinking being if the barrow is lighter it will be easier to push. However I will then have the weight on my back which I don't now. Just wondering whether you guys think they'd be any benefit to doing this or will I gain with one but loose with the other? And still end up not walking right round. Funds don't run to a power porter at the min and my barrow is so old it wouldn't be worth an aftermarket motor add on.
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I whack as much as I can on my back with a small rucksack (British Army Patrol Pack 30L). It's miles easier to carry on your back than push through the mud imo. My barrow is heavy enough just with the rods, brolly, food and bait on it.
I whack as much as I can on my back with a small rucksack (British Army Patrol Pack 30L). It's miles easier to carry on your back than push through the mud imo. My barrow is heavy enough just with the rods, brolly, food and bait on it.
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Rucksack Wayne. May make you offload the tons of unnecessary gear you normally lug round!
Rucksack Wayne. May make you offload the tons of unnecessary gear you normally lug round!
I have an Army Bergen, which I can put on the barrow or lug on my back. In winter some of the paths round my lake are a 'mare, muddy, rutted and sloping, which send a heavily loaded barrow all directions.
My barrow then gets loaded up with bedchair, rod holdall, water and tackle box, no more, with rucksack on my back.
If the path is smooth enough, then the rucksack goes on the barrow.
My barrow then gets loaded up with bedchair, rod holdall, water and tackle box, no more, with rucksack on my back.
If the path is smooth enough, then the rucksack goes on the barrow.
I used to use two large carry alls for the syndicate lake where i could park right behind every peg, sheer luxury.
Then when i went trotting off to fish oxfordshire waters i used the two carryalls on a barrow, dead easy.
Now im fishing short sesh small carp waters or barbel fishing its a small rucky.
Then when i went trotting off to fish oxfordshire waters i used the two carryalls on a barrow, dead easy.
Now im fishing short sesh small carp waters or barbel fishing its a small rucky.
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I used to do as Josh mentioned, in fact I added a shelf to the front of my barrow made out of ply, Its a great solution on firm ground and as josh says, if you get it just right in terms of spreading the load it becomes really easy to push around.
However, this wont work with boggy ground. One of my favorite waters has areas you just have to get through and if you tried to push a loaded barrow through it, itd sink up to the axle of the wheel. I dont think even a power porter would deal with that. There's a fella I often see at one of the marks I fish on the SE coast, and he has a trolly with really fat wheels - wider than a ball if you know what I mean, and that can get over shingle or dry sand - surprised there isnt anything similar for a carp barrow. Perhaps have a google for that sea angling trolly as an alternative to a barrow for getting over boggy ground ?
I use a ruck sack as well, to take some of the weight off the barrow - and as mentioned, this does tend to focus the mind to cutting back to what you need instead of what you might need. For me the most awkward thing to carry is my bedchair. My rods go on my back too - mine are in a 3 rods sleeve. I can also strap my tempest brolly to either my rod sleeve or my rucksack. Before I used the 3 rod sleeve I used a quiver, and my stripped back m3 could go in the quivver too.
I used to do as Josh mentioned, in fact I added a shelf to the front of my barrow made out of ply, Its a great solution on firm ground and as josh says, if you get it just right in terms of spreading the load it becomes really easy to push around.
However, this wont work with boggy ground. One of my favorite waters has areas you just have to get through and if you tried to push a loaded barrow through it, itd sink up to the axle of the wheel. I dont think even a power porter would deal with that. There's a fella I often see at one of the marks I fish on the SE coast, and he has a trolly with really fat wheels - wider than a ball if you know what I mean, and that can get over shingle or dry sand - surprised there isnt anything similar for a carp barrow. Perhaps have a google for that sea angling trolly as an alternative to a barrow for getting over boggy ground ?
I use a ruck sack as well, to take some of the weight off the barrow - and as mentioned, this does tend to focus the mind to cutting back to what you need instead of what you might need. For me the most awkward thing to carry is my bedchair. My rods go on my back too - mine are in a 3 rods sleeve. I can also strap my tempest brolly to either my rod sleeve or my rucksack. Before I used the 3 rod sleeve I used a quiver, and my stripped back m3 could go in the quivver too.
British Army Berghaus rucksack.
I've never owned a barrow, still carry my gear, sometimes it takes two trips.
I'll continue carrying as long as my body allows.
I've never owned a barrow, still carry my gear, sometimes it takes two trips.
I'll continue carrying as long as my body allows.
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Used to hate my rucksack then i scaled down to 40l one and now I love it
Used to hate my rucksack then i scaled down to 40l one and now I love it
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I used to pile everything on the barrow, I'm a short arse and always struggled, so this year I bought an Avid Ruck bag, thinned my gear down by getting rid of those large Fox F boxes for the Tackle safe and RM Action station, so much easier on my back, and now even better as generally now only use the Nash Scopes, life is so much easier
I used to pile everything on the barrow, I'm a short arse and always struggled, so this year I bought an Avid Ruck bag, thinned my gear down by getting rid of those large Fox F boxes for the Tackle safe and RM Action station, so much easier on my back, and now even better as generally now only use the Nash Scopes, life is so much easier
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It's the 9foot ones you have? Still tempted by a set of 10foot ones.
It's the 9foot ones you have? Still tempted by a set of 10foot ones.
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Yeah 9' one's and spod, they even fit sideways in my car, along with my Titan TC Pro, so much easier to load as well, means I can get the barrow out first
Yeah 9' one's and spod, they even fit sideways in my car, along with my Titan TC Pro, so much easier to load as well, means I can get the barrow out first
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No such thing? Bergen maybe?
No such thing? Bergen maybe?
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Nope! British Army Berghaus rucksack. I've been carrying it around (the world) for the past twenty years, cannot break the thing.
Google it
Nope! British Army Berghaus rucksack. I've been carrying it around (the world) for the past twenty years, cannot break the thing.
Google it
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Hmmmm.
I would be interested to see a photo of this as it would be a vary rare beast indeed. Is it DPM or Green?
Whilst Berghaus produce a range of "military" rucksacks which have been privately purchased by soldiers and Royal Marines for decades, the name on the label inside British Army Bergens is not Berghaus but ISS, a defence contractor.
The army Bergen was based on the Crusader and the Karrimor Sabre, but with many features removed to save costs, a simplified harness and frame added and no padded hip belt, just a webbing strap. More significant was a reduction in length to allow the rucksack to be worn with the then new PLCE webbing system. The shorted sack sits on top of the webbing pouches, hence the removal of the padded waist belt.
I am genuinely intrigued to see your rucksack as if it is marked Berghaus, it may be a prototype for the current issue Bergen and very rare!
Hmmmm.
I would be interested to see a photo of this as it would be a vary rare beast indeed. Is it DPM or Green?
Whilst Berghaus produce a range of "military" rucksacks which have been privately purchased by soldiers and Royal Marines for decades, the name on the label inside British Army Bergens is not Berghaus but ISS, a defence contractor.
The army Bergen was based on the Crusader and the Karrimor Sabre, but with many features removed to save costs, a simplified harness and frame added and no padded hip belt, just a webbing strap. More significant was a reduction in length to allow the rucksack to be worn with the then new PLCE webbing system. The shorted sack sits on top of the webbing pouches, hence the removal of the padded waist belt.
I am genuinely intrigued to see your rucksack as if it is marked Berghaus, it may be a prototype for the current issue Bergen and very rare!
It's a 1984 Berghaus Crusader 2.
It is labelled Berghaus and is green.
I've no idea how to post pictures on the forum, it doesn't seem to follow standard procedure.
It is labelled Berghaus and is green.
I've no idea how to post pictures on the forum, it doesn't seem to follow standard procedure.
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Ah, no need for photos, still made and sold as the Crusader 2, but its had a few minor upgrades. About £175 now or £200 with the side pockets.
It was the most popular private purchase rucksack back in the 80's and into the early 90's, along with the Crusader Cyclops. I had the smaller Munro for patrolling and had to stick with the issued rubbish for longer patrols/exercises until I bought a secondhand karrimor Jaguar SA.
It was a relief to get the "new" Bergen in 1989 and we thought it was an amazing bit of kit. Basic design is still used today.
Ah, no need for photos, still made and sold as the Crusader 2, but its had a few minor upgrades. About £175 now or £200 with the side pockets.
It was the most popular private purchase rucksack back in the 80's and into the early 90's, along with the Crusader Cyclops. I had the smaller Munro for patrolling and had to stick with the issued rubbish for longer patrols/exercises until I bought a secondhand karrimor Jaguar SA.
It was a relief to get the "new" Bergen in 1989 and we thought it was an amazing bit of kit. Basic design is still used today.
Couldn't break that Berghaus if I tried, it's certainly made to last and I haven't been kind to it.
I paid about 25 quid for it about 20 years ago, then went off backpacking around for a few years.
I sold all my carp gear (I had an old Nash rucksack which was crap in comparison) before I went off travelling, so the Berghaus became the new fishing rucksack.
Best bit of luggage I've ever had.
I paid about 25 quid for it about 20 years ago, then went off backpacking around for a few years.
I sold all my carp gear (I had an old Nash rucksack which was crap in comparison) before I went off travelling, so the Berghaus became the new fishing rucksack.
Best bit of luggage I've ever had.
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I'm not sure what barrow your using, can you can clip a ruck sack onto the front? If so then replace one of the holdalls with a ruck, when it's boggy stick the ruck on your back, when not leave it on the front of the barrow.
I've never had any issue with the weight of the ruck on my back and pushing a barrow.
I'm not sure what barrow your using, can you can clip a ruck sack onto the front? If so then replace one of the holdalls with a ruck, when it's boggy stick the ruck on your back, when not leave it on the front of the barrow.
I've never had any issue with the weight of the ruck on my back and pushing a barrow.
In reply to Post #20
That's a cracking idea. Never occurred to me to clip it to the front. Nice one. Thx.
That's a cracking idea. Never occurred to me to clip it to the front. Nice one. Thx.
In reply to Post #21
Works a treat as long as you can clear the wheel
I use it on a Trakker Gravity, can make the barrow front heavy/feather lite if I want, great for pushing, crap for falling over
Works a treat as long as you can clear the wheel
I use it on a Trakker Gravity, can make the barrow front heavy/feather lite if I want, great for pushing, crap for falling over
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Who can confidently pick the best product among those listed on this site?
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Who can confidently pick the best product among those listed on this site?
https://must11.com/best-fishing-backpack/
In reply to Post #23
The Thinking anglers ruck sack fits most if not all my stuff in and quite reasonably priced,even better second hand.
The Thinking anglers ruck sack fits most if not all my stuff in and quite reasonably priced,even better second hand.
In reply to Post #24
Saber Tackle do a copy for just over £30 I think
Saber Tackle do a copy for just over £30 I think
I bought a fox camo ruckall recently after being recommended it on here, cnat believe how much I can get In it. Literally every piece of tackle, clothing and hookbait can go inside (apart from what you carry inappropriately a bucket of course) best bag I've ever own by a mile
I dont carry anything else with me apart from a small cool bag with my food in
I dont carry anything else with me apart from a small cool bag with my food in
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I've made a home made version of this.. A bit smaller and lighter but so much better than a barrow when the ground is soft. It's advantage is when you are pulling you are helping to lift it out of the mud.
A bit like pulling rather than pushing your barrow through a soft spot but better as you've a more favourable angle.
Takes up less room in the car as well.
I've made a home made version of this.. A bit smaller and lighter but so much better than a barrow when the ground is soft. It's advantage is when you are pulling you are helping to lift it out of the mud.
A bit like pulling rather than pushing your barrow through a soft spot but better as you've a more favourable angle.
Takes up less room in the car as well.
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