In reply to Post #89
Thanks Vossy and Baitman 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Vossy and Baitman 👍🏻👍🏻
In reply to Post #88
Yes in my head I knew that but its been a long time since I rolled my own. Any batches I've rolled that are too dry and cracked or misshaped have just been plugged up and used as loose feed or boilie crumb.
All good fun!! Although knowing you have come up with a base mix that can catch aswell any the best commercial baits takes a big leap of faith and commitment. There's always doubts in your mind!
Yes in my head I knew that but its been a long time since I rolled my own. Any batches I've rolled that are too dry and cracked or misshaped have just been plugged up and used as loose feed or boilie crumb.
All good fun!! Although knowing you have come up with a base mix that can catch aswell any the best commercial baits takes a big leap of faith and commitment. There's always doubts in your mind!
In reply to Post #89
I've been making small batches (2-3kg) of silly expensive JB boilies for barbel this season and have found steaming baits much more satisfactory than boiling . . . even on my wok burner its difficult to keep to a true rolling boil which screws up timing (I'm creating smaller 10/12mm baits and am paranoid about overboiling) and the amount of leakage/surface scum from the baits (I'm using a 60/40 F2/super-milk base mix) on the water surface has also been disturbing me, as well as making subsequent boils a pain.
Bought a simple domestic Morphy Richards multi-tier steamer (although I only use the lower tier) and now do them in this - much easier to control and as soon as the baits start to swell they are out on racks to air-dry . . . .no nutrient leakage and much more consistent results.
I've been making small batches (2-3kg) of silly expensive JB boilies for barbel this season and have found steaming baits much more satisfactory than boiling . . . even on my wok burner its difficult to keep to a true rolling boil which screws up timing (I'm creating smaller 10/12mm baits and am paranoid about overboiling) and the amount of leakage/surface scum from the baits (I'm using a 60/40 F2/super-milk base mix) on the water surface has also been disturbing me, as well as making subsequent boils a pain.
Bought a simple domestic Morphy Richards multi-tier steamer (although I only use the lower tier) and now do them in this - much easier to control and as soon as the baits start to swell they are out on racks to air-dry . . . .no nutrient leakage and much more consistent results.
In reply to Post #82
Quote... I knew that was coming.
Sometimes you just need to find these things out for yourself
I told you before Dave, I have a small carrier bag filled with those plastic attachments direct from Gardner. As you now found out, they just can't deal with the pressure the powered gun will exert. To be fair, that was just me being stupid, and then you being stupid. They are not designed for a powered gun. They are designed for a hand gun. I just replied & PM'd you the exact way I post photos. Been super ill for a week, express diet style.
Chamimie I did that with these too, blew up two inserts, and blew off two plastic collars from the threads too before realising I was going to kill someone. It's those inserts that REALLY go with a dangerous bang
Vossy, three for a fiver on eBay. Withes hats are all standard size. The thicker the plastic of the hat, the better. Once you get a few good ones cut to size, they will last forever.
Quote... I knew that was coming.
Sometimes you just need to find these things out for yourself
I told you before Dave, I have a small carrier bag filled with those plastic attachments direct from Gardner. As you now found out, they just can't deal with the pressure the powered gun will exert. To be fair, that was just me being stupid, and then you being stupid. They are not designed for a powered gun. They are designed for a hand gun. I just replied & PM'd you the exact way I post photos. Been super ill for a week, express diet style.
Chamimie I did that with these too, blew up two inserts, and blew off two plastic collars from the threads too before realising I was going to kill someone. It's those inserts that REALLY go with a dangerous bang
Vossy, three for a fiver on eBay. Withes hats are all standard size. The thicker the plastic of the hat, the better. Once you get a few good ones cut to size, they will last forever.
Anyone who purchased one of these orange guns in the last year with the newer type batteries. Here are spares. £22 each on Amazon. The older guns like my first few & Dave's photos have a different battery attachment/different battery to the newer versions. They are much better as it's a Makita type attachment & spares are much easier to get hold of.
Unfortunately the charger that comes with the gun itself with the plug in adapter will not work with these spare batteries though. You need a second charger for those, which will charge both types. These are less than tenner. I've purchased loads of these spare batteries from Amazon. They are superb.
MrNuvawun... Don't use a plastic tube from a hand gun on these, there's no need. The metal ones are the same size. The plastic tube has plastic threads which cannot deal with the pressure. Use the metal tube that comes with the gun. The metal collars that come with the gun. Yellow witches hats. As Baitman said the clear witches hats that come with the gun are crap. Bin them straight away.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RZQ3YQ9?ref
Unfortunately the charger that comes with the gun itself with the plug in adapter will not work with these spare batteries though. You need a second charger for those, which will charge both types. These are less than tenner. I've purchased loads of these spare batteries from Amazon. They are superb.
MrNuvawun... Don't use a plastic tube from a hand gun on these, there's no need. The metal ones are the same size. The plastic tube has plastic threads which cannot deal with the pressure. Use the metal tube that comes with the gun. The metal collars that come with the gun. Yellow witches hats. As Baitman said the clear witches hats that come with the gun are crap. Bin them straight away.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RZQ3YQ9?ref
In reply to Post #96
I'm posh - picked up a De Walt caulking gun for only a little bit more dosh than the ebay specials . . .but I do have other DW tools/products so it was mainly for the batteries that I own already. Absolute different gravy compared to handguns . . .and surely more convenient than a compressor type set up?
I'm posh - picked up a De Walt caulking gun for only a little bit more dosh than the ebay specials . . .but I do have other DW tools/products so it was mainly for the batteries that I own already. Absolute different gravy compared to handguns . . .and surely more convenient than a compressor type set up?
In reply to Post #96
I don't suppose you could put a link up for the newer style batteries could you please? I was a little disappointed that the Makita batteries don't fit, but the gun is excellent and has made my return to rolling bait much easier.
I don't suppose you could put a link up for the newer style batteries could you please? I was a little disappointed that the Makita batteries don't fit, but the gun is excellent and has made my return to rolling bait much easier.
In reply to Post #97
Convenient for small batches. My extruder takes almost 10kg of paste, so if I'm doing a 50lg batch of bait it makes life a bit easier
I do have one of these battery hand guns but not used it yet, they sound excellent
Convenient for small batches. My extruder takes almost 10kg of paste, so if I'm doing a 50lg batch of bait it makes life a bit easier
I do have one of these battery hand guns but not used it yet, they sound excellent
"I'm posh"
The posh MOD as well now Belch
I thought I was on the way to being posh too with some new posh sunglasses & an expensive kettle on my wrist. Yet all I really needed to do to get 'posh', was to buy a De Walt caulking gun? Now you tell me! I wish you had shared this very valuable information much sooner, would have saved me a fortune trying to upgrade from a South London chavi
They are so much more convenient than a compressor in my opinion. Absolute game changers for home bait rollers compared to a manual gun. Always have been.
I get to hear stuff that you lot do not, like the fact that home bait rolling is absolutely dying on its arse. Sales of tables & bait making kit is at an all time low... Despite carp anglers numbers absolutely going through the roof. We live in a throw away society now where the young ones want everything done for them. It's a monster edge that anyone who can be bothered to make bait at home really should exploit. Imagine the posh mix that you can come up with, especially with that really posh gun Belch.
(Disclaimer) I've had two posh guns over the years. Both were not as good in comparison to the eBay orange specials IMO.
I thought I was on the way to being posh too with some new posh sunglasses & an expensive kettle on my wrist. Yet all I really needed to do to get 'posh', was to buy a De Walt caulking gun? Now you tell me! I wish you had shared this very valuable information much sooner, would have saved me a fortune trying to upgrade from a South London chavi
They are so much more convenient than a compressor in my opinion. Absolute game changers for home bait rollers compared to a manual gun. Always have been.
I get to hear stuff that you lot do not, like the fact that home bait rolling is absolutely dying on its arse. Sales of tables & bait making kit is at an all time low... Despite carp anglers numbers absolutely going through the roof. We live in a throw away society now where the young ones want everything done for them. It's a monster edge that anyone who can be bothered to make bait at home really should exploit. Imagine the posh mix that you can come up with, especially with that really posh gun Belch.
(Disclaimer) I've had two posh guns over the years. Both were not as good in comparison to the eBay orange specials IMO.
In reply to Post #98
The link is at the bottom of that post Andy. I can't make it live as I'm a div. But copy & paste that into your browser.
This is a photo of what you are looking for on Amazon. First make sure what battery is on your gun. In the top photo, the guns laying on the nearest sack under the counter.... The first battery on the gun laying underneath the other gun with just the battery on view is the old type battery. The gun laying on top of it, with the white on the end of the tube and the whole gun on view, that is the newer type battery I am referring too. I'm the other side of the world and this is the only photo I can find on my phone showing both types together. That's the actual battery that comes with the newer guns. With that big red square release button on it.
This is the Amazon page again for those spare newer type batteries on Amazon. The only difference is the one that comes with the gun has a small round hole in where the charger plugs in. The replacements need a Makita type charger where the whole battery slides & clips onto the charger. You will already have one of those.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RZQ3YQ9?

The link is at the bottom of that post Andy. I can't make it live as I'm a div. But copy & paste that into your browser.
This is a photo of what you are looking for on Amazon. First make sure what battery is on your gun. In the top photo, the guns laying on the nearest sack under the counter.... The first battery on the gun laying underneath the other gun with just the battery on view is the old type battery. The gun laying on top of it, with the white on the end of the tube and the whole gun on view, that is the newer type battery I am referring too. I'm the other side of the world and this is the only photo I can find on my phone showing both types together. That's the actual battery that comes with the newer guns. With that big red square release button on it.
This is the Amazon page again for those spare newer type batteries on Amazon. The only difference is the one that comes with the gun has a small round hole in where the charger plugs in. The replacements need a Makita type charger where the whole battery slides & clips onto the charger. You will already have one of those.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RZQ3YQ9?

In reply to Post #100
That's the exact reason why im started home rolling again
That's the exact reason why im started home rolling again
In reply to Post #104
Good angling Junglist.
Thank you Karl.
Had messages regarding the batteries. On Monday I will post photos of both types of batteries for these orange guns when work send me the photos so there is no confusion.
Basically if you purchased the gun before the eBay man was out of stock for ages... You have the older type battery on your gun. These have a small thin clip to detach them. They were either grey or black.
If you purchased your gun since he had them back in stock.... You have the newer type Makita fitting batteries shown below. These have a larger red square clip to detach the battery as per post 101. It's only the newer guns that the Makita replacement batteries from Amazon will fit on. I could never find replacements for the older type batteries.
Good angling Junglist.
Thank you Karl.
Had messages regarding the batteries. On Monday I will post photos of both types of batteries for these orange guns when work send me the photos so there is no confusion.
Basically if you purchased the gun before the eBay man was out of stock for ages... You have the older type battery on your gun. These have a small thin clip to detach them. They were either grey or black.
If you purchased your gun since he had them back in stock.... You have the newer type Makita fitting batteries shown below. These have a larger red square clip to detach the battery as per post 101. It's only the newer guns that the Makita replacement batteries from Amazon will fit on. I could never find replacements for the older type batteries.
In reply to Post #105
Don't get me wrong its frustrating as self doubt can creep in pretty quickly if you aren't catching
I'm sure it will be a few years before I'm truly happy with a home made base mix but that's why its good to have the likes of tigers as a back up bait!!!
Plus as someone who doesn't have that much time to fish due to family, work etc its been good to keep reading up on bait to keep my toe in the water if that makes sense
Don't get me wrong its frustrating as self doubt can creep in pretty quickly if you aren't catching
I'm sure it will be a few years before I'm truly happy with a home made base mix but that's why its good to have the likes of tigers as a back up bait!!!
Plus as someone who doesn't have that much time to fish due to family, work etc its been good to keep reading up on bait to keep my toe in the water if that makes sense

