In reply to Post #29
They're all as bad as each other.
Here's Farage backtracking like mad: LINKY POO™ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg0l8vr9vo
Amazing how fast this fell off the front page considering his crumpled up face is on it most of the time.
They're all as bad as each other.
Here's Farage backtracking like mad: LINKY POO™ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg0l8vr9vo
Amazing how fast this fell off the front page considering his crumpled up face is on it most of the time.
In reply to Post #26
Prioritising illegal imigrants (how are they illegal) over our own people - I don't see that at all because homelessness etc in this country is a political choice which has existed long before folk come over on boats to escape yet another war torn country that this country decided to bomb. Here's a novel idea, if the country don't want immigrants then stop bombing countries.
Prioritising illegal imigrants (how are they illegal) over our own people - I don't see that at all because homelessness etc in this country is a political choice which has existed long before folk come over on boats to escape yet another war torn country that this country decided to bomb. Here's a novel idea, if the country don't want immigrants then stop bombing countries.
In reply to Post #32
When did we last bomb France?
When did we last bomb France?
In reply to Post #32
They enter the country illegally, that's how. They mostly enter with no id to show who they are. They enter by paying people smugglers to bring them over. They enter from France which is not a dangerous country, nor their country of origin. They are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants. We are not going out bombing their countries. If we were, why on earth would they want to come here?? They want to come because of the easy life they have handed to them on a plate. Put up in a hotel, food on the table, living comfortably. All while veterans are living in doorways and searching bins for food. Anyone who supports these invaders should be ashamed of themselves
They enter the country illegally, that's how. They mostly enter with no id to show who they are. They enter by paying people smugglers to bring them over. They enter from France which is not a dangerous country, nor their country of origin. They are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants. We are not going out bombing their countries. If we were, why on earth would they want to come here?? They want to come because of the easy life they have handed to them on a plate. Put up in a hotel, food on the table, living comfortably. All while veterans are living in doorways and searching bins for food. Anyone who supports these invaders should be ashamed of themselves
In reply to Post #34
Where would they get their id from when they're fleeing from war?.
Makes no difference where they're coming from because they don't have to stay or claim asylum in the first country that they reach.
As said previously it's a political choose regards homelessness etc etc.
It's all about creating a division where the rich want others to blame those immigrants for your poor state of living.
Anyone would think if we didn't have them arriving on our shores that we'd be much better off which is laughable considering any monies saved would just go to the governments donars and not the less well off in society.
Handed to them on a plate?. It's on a plate because of the Tories failing to process their claim. Process them, if not eligible to stay in the country then send them back but if eligible to stay then they can find employment and contribute to the economy.
Where would they get their id from when they're fleeing from war?.
Makes no difference where they're coming from because they don't have to stay or claim asylum in the first country that they reach.
As said previously it's a political choose regards homelessness etc etc.
It's all about creating a division where the rich want others to blame those immigrants for your poor state of living.
Anyone would think if we didn't have them arriving on our shores that we'd be much better off which is laughable considering any monies saved would just go to the governments donars and not the less well off in society.
Handed to them on a plate?. It's on a plate because of the Tories failing to process their claim. Process them, if not eligible to stay in the country then send them back but if eligible to stay then they can find employment and contribute to the economy.
In reply to Post #35
They aren't fleeing from war. And they can't get Id but can get a 4 figure sum of money to pay the people smugglers? Behave! If they had a genuine claim then they would enter the country via the correct and legal route,but they don't . I wonder why.......
Uk asylum laws do state that they aren't eligible if entering from another safe country too
I dont have a poor state of living. But I'm sick of grafting my arse off, paying a fortune in taxes to have a big chunk of that go to booking out entire hotels indefinitely for foreign invaders who are coming here causing trouble, sponging everything they can. They have no claim, they don't want to contribute to society.
If they are so welcome by you, how many have you got living with you?
They aren't fleeing from war. And they can't get Id but can get a 4 figure sum of money to pay the people smugglers? Behave! If they had a genuine claim then they would enter the country via the correct and legal route,but they don't . I wonder why.......
Uk asylum laws do state that they aren't eligible if entering from another safe country too
I dont have a poor state of living. But I'm sick of grafting my arse off, paying a fortune in taxes to have a big chunk of that go to booking out entire hotels indefinitely for foreign invaders who are coming here causing trouble, sponging everything they can. They have no claim, they don't want to contribute to society.
If they are so welcome by you, how many have you got living with you?
In reply to Post #36
So many inaccuracies in your post.
So, which government fixes the problems then?.
So many inaccuracies in your post.
So, which government fixes the problems then?.
In reply to Post #37
Whats inaccurate then?
As for fixing it? I'm not entirely sure it can be fixed completely. But neither of the main pair are capable that's for sure.
Whats inaccurate then?
As for fixing it? I'm not entirely sure it can be fixed completely. But neither of the main pair are capable that's for sure.
In reply to Post #38
How do you know that they're not fleeing from war?. I grant all may not be but there will be some.
They do not have to stay in the first safe country that they reach.
Try telling those that have gone onto employment that they do not want to contribute to society/economy so in effect your claim of otherwise there is no basis.
Why would I require them living with me just because I have an opinion that in my view they're welcome if they're legit?.
On a lighter note how would you prefer your swan cooked sir?.
How do you know that they're not fleeing from war?. I grant all may not be but there will be some.
They do not have to stay in the first safe country that they reach.
Try telling those that have gone onto employment that they do not want to contribute to society/economy so in effect your claim of otherwise there is no basis.
Why would I require them living with me just because I have an opinion that in my view they're welcome if they're legit?.
On a lighter note how would you prefer your swan cooked sir?.
Lets just leave this here.
The Egyptian migrant who raped a woman in Hyde Park was suspected Islamist terrorist Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, who was accused of making bombs for the Muslim Brotherhood.
That's a headline from the Daily Telegraph. He was jailed for seven years in 2015 in Egypt for bomb making. He came to the UK on a boat in 2023 to claim asylum. A convicted Islamist terrorist. We let him roam around for 18 months while he lived in a very expensive hotel in London at our expense. He was already found guilty by his own country of manufacturing explosives in a safe house flat to carry out terrorist acts in LONDON. Plans to target electricity pylons & gas pipelines were found.
We knew all of this about him. We put him up in a hotel, let him wander the streets for 18 months. He raped a woman in Hyde Park.
The London mayor, is the former lawyer for the Nation Of Islam. Now he runs London.
Let someone come call me racist. I have a foreign wife. My last seven girlfriends before her were all foreign. I grew up in London. Not some leafy little village where everyone is white. Lots of my friends are black, brown, white, yellow. I'm as far from racist as anyone who wants to defend this shat above could ever be. This is all becoming a very sick joke on the British people. Why are British people defending this stuff? I will never understand. I think that if 20 of these people get housed next door to someone with Tazi's views, they will wake up faster than Usain Bolt running the 100m when it's on their doorstep 24/7. Soon this is going to be all of our problem. We are openly letting in the very people who seek to destroy us. Lawyers from our own country are making an absolute fortune from us defending these people and getting them to stay here. It's become a racket. It's been going on for so many years. The men doing that are now all in power in government. We are in real danger. There is literally 1000's of young men arriving in the UK now. Not women, not children fleeing war.... Fighting age men!
Make it make sense.
The Egyptian migrant who raped a woman in Hyde Park was suspected Islamist terrorist Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, who was accused of making bombs for the Muslim Brotherhood.
That's a headline from the Daily Telegraph. He was jailed for seven years in 2015 in Egypt for bomb making. He came to the UK on a boat in 2023 to claim asylum. A convicted Islamist terrorist. We let him roam around for 18 months while he lived in a very expensive hotel in London at our expense. He was already found guilty by his own country of manufacturing explosives in a safe house flat to carry out terrorist acts in LONDON. Plans to target electricity pylons & gas pipelines were found.
We knew all of this about him. We put him up in a hotel, let him wander the streets for 18 months. He raped a woman in Hyde Park.
The London mayor, is the former lawyer for the Nation Of Islam. Now he runs London.
Let someone come call me racist. I have a foreign wife. My last seven girlfriends before her were all foreign. I grew up in London. Not some leafy little village where everyone is white. Lots of my friends are black, brown, white, yellow. I'm as far from racist as anyone who wants to defend this shat above could ever be. This is all becoming a very sick joke on the British people. Why are British people defending this stuff? I will never understand. I think that if 20 of these people get housed next door to someone with Tazi's views, they will wake up faster than Usain Bolt running the 100m when it's on their doorstep 24/7. Soon this is going to be all of our problem. We are openly letting in the very people who seek to destroy us. Lawyers from our own country are making an absolute fortune from us defending these people and getting them to stay here. It's become a racket. It's been going on for so many years. The men doing that are now all in power in government. We are in real danger. There is literally 1000's of young men arriving in the UK now. Not women, not children fleeing war.... Fighting age men!
Make it make sense.
In reply to Post #39
I didn't say they had to stay in the first country they entered. I said the UK had laws saying that if they were coming from a safe country they could refuse entry because of that.
You actually believe that many if thes illegals have gained employment? Until they have been granted asylum they can't.
There is no war going on in France.
And lastly, because it's the same with all of you lefties. "Welcome them with open arms as long as we don't actually have to help them ourselves".
Now answer this as you continually swerve it. If they are fleeing a war torn country, and have no id, where is all the money coming from they pay the people smugglers to get them here? And how are they usually clothed nicely ,with expensive trainers on, carrying smart phones etc? They have all these things but miraculously don't have any form of identification. But are yet m ant to be good and honest people. Explain it.
I didn't say they had to stay in the first country they entered. I said the UK had laws saying that if they were coming from a safe country they could refuse entry because of that.
You actually believe that many if thes illegals have gained employment? Until they have been granted asylum they can't.
There is no war going on in France.
And lastly, because it's the same with all of you lefties. "Welcome them with open arms as long as we don't actually have to help them ourselves".
Now answer this as you continually swerve it. If they are fleeing a war torn country, and have no id, where is all the money coming from they pay the people smugglers to get them here? And how are they usually clothed nicely ,with expensive trainers on, carrying smart phones etc? They have all these things but miraculously don't have any form of identification. But are yet m ant to be good and honest people. Explain it.
In reply to Post #41
Apologies as I read it the other way in that there could be a refusal of entry if coming from a safe country.
Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that.
As for the other points you ask I'll refer back to them later on.
Edit - Regards where these supposed illegals monies come from to pay the illegal gangs I really have no idea, however be forward thinking, stash some cash to pay the smugglers because the way this country could be heading (dread to think Deform getting in) you'll need to escape dictatorship.
Leftism or fascism.
Apologies as I read it the other way in that there could be a refusal of entry if coming from a safe country.
Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that.
As for the other points you ask I'll refer back to them later on.
Edit - Regards where these supposed illegals monies come from to pay the illegal gangs I really have no idea, however be forward thinking, stash some cash to pay the smugglers because the way this country could be heading (dread to think Deform getting in) you'll need to escape dictatorship.
Leftism or fascism.
In reply to Post #7
Post 6
Quote "The IDF pick different body parts to target on rotation when shooting people trying to get food. They target children's hands and genitals with their bullets."
Dr Nick Maynard is the person who claims this, nobody else has come forward to say it's true, so it's unverified.
IF it is true, it is disgusting, obviously I do not condone it.
Worth bearing in mind that the occupants of Gaza wanted Hamas as their leader and Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth. If Israel were to lay down their guns now, that's what would happen.
Sept 2023:
Hamas support in Gaza: 42%
Fatah support in Gaza: 26%
Hamas make their manifesto quite clear...did they expect Israel to lay down and take it?
It's all extremely sad, I don't want to take sides but lets see it for what it is. Hamas kicked the hornets nest and the people of Gaza are suffering because of it.
Some religions seem to love war, look at that region. That's why we shouldn't be importing them without proper checks and if they do anything anti-british they should be deported.
Post 12:
Totally agree with everything you've put in there I reckon Scozza
Post 30:
Quote "I'm not sure people who made their living owning or working in a high street shop would agree."
Tell that to the shop owners after BLM riots. Have you read about where all the BLM money went? Who got to benefit from that? All because a career criminal drug addict died. Look at how the right have behaved after the Charlie Kirk shooting and compare it to the left. The right (or should I say the Centrists...because everything has moved so far left now) are acting like the grown ups.
Post 35:
Quote "Where would they get their id from when they're fleeing from war?."
They seem to forget to put the women and children in the boat first don't they? I guess they have a different upbringing to us, they despise women. If you've ever holidayed in places like Egypt you get to see what a 'boys club' Islam is. They doing what they want while the woman stay out of site. I don't want England getting like that, and it's already started with the way the young women up north have been treated.
Go find me some evidence of the Islamists looking favourably on gay people please...we're not the extremists. Wake up!
Quote "Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that."
Stop being such a wet wipe, you have no answers. It's all virtue signalling crap you spout in your cuddly little echo bubble of oh so righteous friends. I'd rather be far right than far wrong, especially as far right is now basically just right of central.
Post 6
Quote "The IDF pick different body parts to target on rotation when shooting people trying to get food. They target children's hands and genitals with their bullets."
Dr Nick Maynard is the person who claims this, nobody else has come forward to say it's true, so it's unverified.
IF it is true, it is disgusting, obviously I do not condone it.
Worth bearing in mind that the occupants of Gaza wanted Hamas as their leader and Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth. If Israel were to lay down their guns now, that's what would happen.
Sept 2023:
Hamas support in Gaza: 42%
Fatah support in Gaza: 26%
Hamas make their manifesto quite clear...did they expect Israel to lay down and take it?
It's all extremely sad, I don't want to take sides but lets see it for what it is. Hamas kicked the hornets nest and the people of Gaza are suffering because of it.
Some religions seem to love war, look at that region. That's why we shouldn't be importing them without proper checks and if they do anything anti-british they should be deported.
Post 12:
Totally agree with everything you've put in there I reckon Scozza
Post 30:
Quote "I'm not sure people who made their living owning or working in a high street shop would agree."
Tell that to the shop owners after BLM riots. Have you read about where all the BLM money went? Who got to benefit from that? All because a career criminal drug addict died. Look at how the right have behaved after the Charlie Kirk shooting and compare it to the left. The right (or should I say the Centrists...because everything has moved so far left now) are acting like the grown ups.
Post 35:
Quote "Where would they get their id from when they're fleeing from war?."
They seem to forget to put the women and children in the boat first don't they? I guess they have a different upbringing to us, they despise women. If you've ever holidayed in places like Egypt you get to see what a 'boys club' Islam is. They doing what they want while the woman stay out of site. I don't want England getting like that, and it's already started with the way the young women up north have been treated.
Go find me some evidence of the Islamists looking favourably on gay people please...we're not the extremists. Wake up!
Quote "Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that."
Stop being such a wet wipe, you have no answers. It's all virtue signalling crap you spout in your cuddly little echo bubble of oh so righteous friends. I'd rather be far right than far wrong, especially as far right is now basically just right of central.
In reply to Post #42
Like so many people who hold your views, you can't seem to accept anything that is actually going on. You just want to tar everyone who does not agree with you as a fascist.
You made this thread, you made it to vent your views about a certain political party really, you can't stop mentioning them. Do you see me or others trying to influence people who to vote for? No. I've never voted in my life. But a mans vote is his choice, not yours. Your very strange views are what has got this country into the very sorry state that it's in now. You seem to think that WE are the problem.
An illegal immigrant is not 'supposed' as you like to refer to it as. Anyone who enters this country illegally, ie in a boat across the channel is an ILLEGAL immigrant. You and your left leaning friends don't get to decide that definition. It's set in STONE. They are entering the country illegally. End of story. They are mainly young fighting age men. The last war we were involved in was the second gulf war. That finished in 2011. That was fourteen years ago now. So we have boats coming here on an almost daily basis because of some war that ended in 2011??? Where were they in 2013????
You can come up with every excuse under the sun. The people you want to defend so badly would slit your throat as fast as look at you. That's the pure stupidness of your arguments. If your children went to school in a muslim majority school and were being terrorised for being white/British you would not hold these views. If your 13 year old daughter was raped by someone coming from somewhere that they think that kind of **** is okay, you would not hold these views. They are not coming to integrate, they are coming to take over. It's being allowed to happen. For what reason we don't even know yet... But it is happening before our very eyes.
The Egyptian man above, we knew who he was.... There are now tens of thousands here that we don't know who they are. Not until they start beheading young children and live streaming it. Or blowing up our towns & cities.
Who remembers the recent attack on an electricity station near Heathrow? Now read the plans of that Egyptian man above again. That was all covered up pretty fast in the news, like so many other things that are going on in our country now. For religious reasons these people don't like you Tazi. Yes there are many many economic migrants in among these people. But there are also swathes of ex ISIS fighters and the like flooding into Europe. This is a recipe for disaster when British people are fighting to allow it to happen. I'll repeat, these people would have your head as quick as look at you. The purple haired people waving Palestine flags around constantly, do not seem to understand the concept that THEY would be the first to have their heads chopped off. There are numerous examples of aid workers going to Gaza to help... Then ending up being taken hostage or killed in a live stream!
Have a search what they have done to the Yazidi people in their own lands for being of a different religion. Kill the men & boys, take the women & girls as sex slaves. These people are very, very different to us. That has zero to do with any war. They have been trying to invade Europe for many centuries. They seem to have now worked out the way to do it, via our own kindness.
The most dangerous rise in the UK is not fascists, it's the rise of the radical left. That's what has got us into the problems which we are speaking about now. If we were actually full of fascists, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED, would it? It's because we are full of very vocal people with your left leaning views, that now we are suffering these problems. People have been afraid to speak up, in fear of people like you branding them a racist/fascist. That game is clearly ending now all over Europe. People will not accept that crap anymore. It's political correctness gone mad. When I grew up the tories were pretty right wing. That all stopped twenty years ago. Even the supposed right wing party in the UK moved to the left of centre really. So all this vitriol you spout is absolute ********. British people have just got to the stage where they have had enough. The more the radical left try to counter that with 'racist/fascist' talk, the more normal people who don't even vote like myself go the other way. I will vote next time. Just to stop people with your views being in control of this country and selling it down the river.
Like so many people who hold your views, you can't seem to accept anything that is actually going on. You just want to tar everyone who does not agree with you as a fascist.
You made this thread, you made it to vent your views about a certain political party really, you can't stop mentioning them. Do you see me or others trying to influence people who to vote for? No. I've never voted in my life. But a mans vote is his choice, not yours. Your very strange views are what has got this country into the very sorry state that it's in now. You seem to think that WE are the problem.
An illegal immigrant is not 'supposed' as you like to refer to it as. Anyone who enters this country illegally, ie in a boat across the channel is an ILLEGAL immigrant. You and your left leaning friends don't get to decide that definition. It's set in STONE. They are entering the country illegally. End of story. They are mainly young fighting age men. The last war we were involved in was the second gulf war. That finished in 2011. That was fourteen years ago now. So we have boats coming here on an almost daily basis because of some war that ended in 2011??? Where were they in 2013????
You can come up with every excuse under the sun. The people you want to defend so badly would slit your throat as fast as look at you. That's the pure stupidness of your arguments. If your children went to school in a muslim majority school and were being terrorised for being white/British you would not hold these views. If your 13 year old daughter was raped by someone coming from somewhere that they think that kind of **** is okay, you would not hold these views. They are not coming to integrate, they are coming to take over. It's being allowed to happen. For what reason we don't even know yet... But it is happening before our very eyes.
The Egyptian man above, we knew who he was.... There are now tens of thousands here that we don't know who they are. Not until they start beheading young children and live streaming it. Or blowing up our towns & cities.
Who remembers the recent attack on an electricity station near Heathrow? Now read the plans of that Egyptian man above again. That was all covered up pretty fast in the news, like so many other things that are going on in our country now. For religious reasons these people don't like you Tazi. Yes there are many many economic migrants in among these people. But there are also swathes of ex ISIS fighters and the like flooding into Europe. This is a recipe for disaster when British people are fighting to allow it to happen. I'll repeat, these people would have your head as quick as look at you. The purple haired people waving Palestine flags around constantly, do not seem to understand the concept that THEY would be the first to have their heads chopped off. There are numerous examples of aid workers going to Gaza to help... Then ending up being taken hostage or killed in a live stream!
Have a search what they have done to the Yazidi people in their own lands for being of a different religion. Kill the men & boys, take the women & girls as sex slaves. These people are very, very different to us. That has zero to do with any war. They have been trying to invade Europe for many centuries. They seem to have now worked out the way to do it, via our own kindness.
The most dangerous rise in the UK is not fascists, it's the rise of the radical left. That's what has got us into the problems which we are speaking about now. If we were actually full of fascists, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED, would it? It's because we are full of very vocal people with your left leaning views, that now we are suffering these problems. People have been afraid to speak up, in fear of people like you branding them a racist/fascist. That game is clearly ending now all over Europe. People will not accept that crap anymore. It's political correctness gone mad. When I grew up the tories were pretty right wing. That all stopped twenty years ago. Even the supposed right wing party in the UK moved to the left of centre really. So all this vitriol you spout is absolute ********. British people have just got to the stage where they have had enough. The more the radical left try to counter that with 'racist/fascist' talk, the more normal people who don't even vote like myself go the other way. I will vote next time. Just to stop people with your views being in control of this country and selling it down the river.
In reply to Post #44
Sorry mate I only read the first line but I'm accepting of most things and where my comment of fascism comes from is from the likes of Liebour and Deform as that is what it is coming to and heaven forbid under Farage heaven help us.
Edit - Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone.
Wow to the rest.
Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard. Note to self read all of the post and not skip through it whilst watching the Ryder cup.
Sorry mate I only read the first line but I'm accepting of most things and where my comment of fascism comes from is from the likes of Liebour and Deform as that is what it is coming to and heaven forbid under Farage heaven help us.
Edit - Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone.
Wow to the rest.
Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard. Note to self read all of the post and not skip through it whilst watching the Ryder cup.