In reply to Post #16
Daz
The clip you attach your lead to, will it accommodate a big eye swivel or does your lead have to have a standard swivel?
Reason I ask is that I have some old discontinued Nash ones which are similar, but not angled like the Temu ones. They have to be used with a lead with a standard swivel, which is a bit pants as you have to get "special" leads made up.
Daz
The clip you attach your lead to, will it accommodate a big eye swivel or does your lead have to have a standard swivel?
Reason I ask is that I have some old discontinued Nash ones which are similar, but not angled like the Temu ones. They have to be used with a lead with a standard swivel, which is a bit pants as you have to get "special" leads made up.
In reply to Post #17
I use a big swivel on mine m8, holds it quite firm, but will come out on the cast or a take without the pin fitted, it stays in ok when reeling in.
Daz
I use a big swivel on mine m8, holds it quite firm, but will come out on the cast or a take without the pin fitted, it stays in ok when reeling in.
Daz
In reply to Post #1
Just use a lead clip with a bead in front to make it run. lead will pop off. Easy!
Could tie the lead on with say 6/8lb strain line. I do this on heli set ups in heavy weed.
Just use a lead clip with a bead in front to make it run. lead will pop off. Easy!
Could tie the lead on with say 6/8lb strain line. I do this on heli set ups in heavy weed.
In reply to Post #19
leadclips are best at ejecting leads when they are still attached to the swivel so if the lead gets caught while fish is towing it the clip stays in place making it easier for the lead to then come off.
I know a lot of named anglers promote it but personally i dont like the idea at all of using a running lead clip with its smaller diameter hole through a longer length gives it far more resistance to come off a snapped line than a conventional large run ring
leadclips are best at ejecting leads when they are still attached to the swivel so if the lead gets caught while fish is towing it the clip stays in place making it easier for the lead to then come off.
I know a lot of named anglers promote it but personally i dont like the idea at all of using a running lead clip with its smaller diameter hole through a longer length gives it far more resistance to come off a snapped line than a conventional large run ring
In reply to Post #20
Agreed, running lead clips are really unsafe imo
Agreed, running lead clips are really unsafe imo
In reply to Post #20
""leadclips are best at ejecting leads when they are still attached to the swivel so if the lead gets caught while fish is towing it the clip stays in place making it easier for the lead to then come off.""
That's the problem - they don't.
The lead is just dangling around as the fish swims around. The likelyhood of it catching anything in the lake, holding \ getting stuck, then releasing from the clip is close to zero. (unless the lead has prongs)
""leadclips are best at ejecting leads when they are still attached to the swivel so if the lead gets caught while fish is towing it the clip stays in place making it easier for the lead to then come off.""
That's the problem - they don't.
The lead is just dangling around as the fish swims around. The likelyhood of it catching anything in the lake, holding \ getting stuck, then releasing from the clip is close to zero. (unless the lead has prongs)
In reply to Post #22
quote "That's the problem - they don't.
The lead is just dangling around as the fish swims around. The likelyhood of it catching anything in the lake, holding \ getting stuck, then releasing from the clip is close to zero. (unless the lead has prongs)"
With a lead clip set up running what you say is correct, but if the lead clip is still attached to swivel the lead has a far greater chance to come off and does
With a leadclip still attached to swivel and a fish goes through a weedbed there is a very high chance the lead will dislodge unless someone has really forced a tail rubber onto clip, and it isnt just weed beds where the lead will come off.
This isnt a way i would fish but even on a clear lake a lead clip can eject a lead on the take just because of the resistance of the lake bed, where as a running leadclip wont create the same resistance as it will slide down the line with the potential to cause other problems
quote "That's the problem - they don't.
The lead is just dangling around as the fish swims around. The likelyhood of it catching anything in the lake, holding \ getting stuck, then releasing from the clip is close to zero. (unless the lead has prongs)"
With a lead clip set up running what you say is correct, but if the lead clip is still attached to swivel the lead has a far greater chance to come off and does
With a leadclip still attached to swivel and a fish goes through a weedbed there is a very high chance the lead will dislodge unless someone has really forced a tail rubber onto clip, and it isnt just weed beds where the lead will come off.
This isnt a way i would fish but even on a clear lake a lead clip can eject a lead on the take just because of the resistance of the lake bed, where as a running leadclip wont create the same resistance as it will slide down the line with the potential to cause other problems
In reply to Post #23
""With a lead clip set up running what you say is correct, but if the lead clip is still attached to swivel the lead has a far greater chance to come off and does""
?? Don't undertsand, sounds like a contradiction.
The lead *has to* become thethered to be able to release from the clip.
It doesn't in most scenarios. Can you imagine swimming around a lake trying to dislodge zip\distance lead from a leadclip? You'd have a hell of a job!
""With a leadclip still attached to swivel and a fish goes through a weedbed there is a very high chance the lead will dislodge unless someone has really forced a tail rubber onto clip, and it isnt just weed beds where the lead will come off.""
This is so far from the truth.
Fish swims into weed, anti tangle sleeve (maybe) and leadclip get pulled straight into weedbed, get locked up, lead has absolutely no play in events. Everything is snarled in weed , lead will never pull off, because the rig can't go any further
The leadclip and\or anti tangle sleeve system will get snarled into the weed first with the lead having no influence - it's locked..... Think about it.
I realise if you use a leadclip with tubing there is a chance of problems, but on balance in my opinion a running leadclip is far safer. Gets you more fish on the bank, too, not that is important.
I always fish leadclips naked ( no tubing), running lead clip. Safer, and more fish on the bank.
If you use a barbless hook, dismiss everything, Doesn't matter what you use.
""With a lead clip set up running what you say is correct, but if the lead clip is still attached to swivel the lead has a far greater chance to come off and does""
?? Don't undertsand, sounds like a contradiction.
The lead *has to* become thethered to be able to release from the clip.
It doesn't in most scenarios. Can you imagine swimming around a lake trying to dislodge zip\distance lead from a leadclip? You'd have a hell of a job!
""With a leadclip still attached to swivel and a fish goes through a weedbed there is a very high chance the lead will dislodge unless someone has really forced a tail rubber onto clip, and it isnt just weed beds where the lead will come off.""
This is so far from the truth.
Fish swims into weed, anti tangle sleeve (maybe) and leadclip get pulled straight into weedbed, get locked up, lead has absolutely no play in events. Everything is snarled in weed , lead will never pull off, because the rig can't go any further
The leadclip and\or anti tangle sleeve system will get snarled into the weed first with the lead having no influence - it's locked..... Think about it.
I realise if you use a leadclip with tubing there is a chance of problems, but on balance in my opinion a running leadclip is far safer. Gets you more fish on the bank, too, not that is important.
I always fish leadclips naked ( no tubing), running lead clip. Safer, and more fish on the bank.
If you use a barbless hook, dismiss everything, Doesn't matter what you use.
In reply to Post #24
As you dont use lead clips in the way they were designed, how would you know how they work? The can and do drop the lead when it gets weeded up, contrary to your theory. They need to be fixed to give them that anchor point to work properly to discharge the lead if needed
As you dont use lead clips in the way they were designed, how would you know how they work? The can and do drop the lead when it gets weeded up, contrary to your theory. They need to be fixed to give them that anchor point to work properly to discharge the lead if needed
In reply to Post #25
I have used them "as designed", lol .
A lead on a 'semi fixed' (lol fixed!) lead clip will never discharge in thick weed because the system will be locked \ clogged in the weed.
The lead clip and\or antii tangle sleeve will lock up in the weed before the lead.
The whole thing is stuck. That lead can't be released.
Until Autumn.
And they won't discharge anywhere else in the bleeding lake (think Autumn, Winter, Spring). Absolute madness!
I have used them "as designed", lol .
A lead on a 'semi fixed' (lol fixed!) lead clip will never discharge in thick weed because the system will be locked \ clogged in the weed.
The lead clip and\or antii tangle sleeve will lock up in the weed before the lead.
The whole thing is stuck. That lead can't be released.
Until Autumn.
And they won't discharge anywhere else in the bleeding lake (think Autumn, Winter, Spring). Absolute madness!
In reply to Post #26
Wrong. It releases when used correctly. Fact. I've been using them since they were released decades ago and have never once had a lead not discharge when weeded up with a fish on. Not once.
Wrong. It releases when used correctly. Fact. I've been using them since they were released decades ago and have never once had a lead not discharge when weeded up with a fish on. Not once.
In reply to Post #27
Rowing out in the Boat doesn't count.
Rowing out in the Boat doesn't count.
In reply to Post #28
Eh? No boats here. You're weird .
Eh? No boats here. You're weird .
In reply to Post #24
No tubing either? You seem rather lax with regards to angling safely.
No tubing either? You seem rather lax with regards to angling safely.