I wonder if there is a trick to tie very short section of supple braid for Combination rigs. I've managed to tie down to 1 - 2 cm but for pop ups I want to be even shorter.
In reply to Post #1
What knot are you using?
What knot are you using?
In reply to Post #2
Alberto knot
Alberto knot
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Albright?
Albright?
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Can't get my head round why people want to tie two diffrent materials together to form a hooklink. It's not like we've got enough knots between us and a hooked fish is it. Just adding another weak spot if you ask me. Why not just use a coated braid? If your looking for a stiff boom section I cant recommend Rigmarole Hydrolink strongly enough. They all achieve the same thing with out extra knotage. You can get the supple section as short as you want with ease. Just a thought...
Can't get my head round why people want to tie two diffrent materials together to form a hooklink. It's not like we've got enough knots between us and a hooked fish is it. Just adding another weak spot if you ask me. Why not just use a coated braid? If your looking for a stiff boom section I cant recommend Rigmarole Hydrolink strongly enough. They all achieve the same thing with out extra knotage. You can get the supple section as short as you want with ease. Just a thought...
I guess those knots have many names but I know them like this:
LINKY POO™ Albright
LINKY POO™ Alberto or Modified Albright
And for the Combination of materials vs Coated Braid. I guess is a confidence thing. I use them with Fluoro main line with Running setup.
LINKY POO™ Albright
LINKY POO™ Alberto or Modified Albright
And for the Combination of materials vs Coated Braid. I guess is a confidence thing. I use them with Fluoro main line with Running setup.
In reply to Post #6
Have you considered tying the combi with a loop and using it multi-slip D style? It should be possible to tie it pretty short with practice.
Have you considered tying the combi with a loop and using it multi-slip D style? It should be possible to tie it pretty short with practice.
In reply to Post #1
Loop and boom rig probably the easiest in terms of small braided hooklink length 'consistency' . . .crimped boom end loop or tie to oval / circular rig ring, doubled up braid (ensure you measure exactly the same length of braid every time before you double it over) with overhand knot at boilie stop end - this does not have to that accurate at this stage as once you've ascertained hair length just adjust the number of knotless knot wraps you make on the shank (more or less wraps) before pushing the braid back through the hook eye - job done.
Only limitation is hook size - the bigger the hook / shorter the supple section is, the harder it is to 'loop' onto the boom end as its restricted by the overall length of the hook. . .tbf with practice I reckon you could also get pretty short using standard Albright knot (giving you more hook end bait attachment options) but this takes patience and practice!
Loop and boom rig probably the easiest in terms of small braided hooklink length 'consistency' . . .crimped boom end loop or tie to oval / circular rig ring, doubled up braid (ensure you measure exactly the same length of braid every time before you double it over) with overhand knot at boilie stop end - this does not have to that accurate at this stage as once you've ascertained hair length just adjust the number of knotless knot wraps you make on the shank (more or less wraps) before pushing the braid back through the hook eye - job done.
Only limitation is hook size - the bigger the hook / shorter the supple section is, the harder it is to 'loop' onto the boom end as its restricted by the overall length of the hook. . .tbf with practice I reckon you could also get pretty short using standard Albright knot (giving you more hook end bait attachment options) but this takes patience and practice!
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I use the Albright knot for combi rigs (pretty much all I use these days).
With some patience, less than 1cm is easily attainable.
A little tip - Put something over the point of the hook, it makes things easier (and less bloody
I use the Albright knot for combi rigs (pretty much all I use these days).
With some patience, less than 1cm is easily attainable.
A little tip - Put something over the point of the hook, it makes things easier (and less bloody
I use an Albright knot and can get them super short, the trick is to have the eye of the hook just through your loop of fluoro as you whip down with the braid, then before you pull the knot tight slide the knot right down to the hook keeping the Fluoro and braid tag end tight, then pull the knot tight, takes a little practice but that's the best way I've found.
In reply to Post #10
I'm doing like you described. But when I tighten the knot supple part extend by few mm. I guess need more practice.
I'm doing like you described. But when I tighten the knot supple part extend by few mm. I guess need more practice.
In reply to Post #11
I use an albright too and can get them pretty short - but the way the knot works you will always create some slack at the hook end.
One ‘cheat' is to add a line aligner afterwards to close the ‘gap' from the end of the nylon. Obviously different length line aligners are available.
I use an albright too and can get them pretty short - but the way the knot works you will always create some slack at the hook end.
One ‘cheat' is to add a line aligner afterwards to close the ‘gap' from the end of the nylon. Obviously different length line aligners are available.
I found the easiest way to get a really short section is to join the 2 materials first. Then pull the braided section through the hook until the knot is butted up against the eye and then tie a whipping knot.
In reply to Post #13
That is indeed the easiest and most repeatable manner
That is indeed the easiest and most repeatable manner
In reply to Post #13
I use that approach to make a combo multi rig
I use that approach to make a combo multi rig