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Ways of getting chopped worms down to 16ft (23 posts / 3,020 views)
TheHappyMan
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Post #1 9 Oct 2024 22:36
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I want to try drop some chopped worms down onto a spot , the lake is a very large windswept pit . I can use a boat but think undertow and wind drift would just mean very little would land near the mark.Any suggestions? Would they work in pva stocking or bags ?
Baitman Baitman
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Post #2 9 Oct 2024 23:13
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In reply to Post #1
If you can use a row boat then use a bait dropper, or spopper as used by barbel anglers.
inzenity inzenity
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Post #3 9 Oct 2024 23:56
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Balls of soil dropped from the boat.
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #4 10 Oct 2024 08:26
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In reply to Post #1
molehill soil, common tactic on rivers and canals with matchmen.

Have a walk round a farmers field, I used to collect it in a bucket, take it home riddle it. if it's too dry when you come to use use it use an atomiser to spray it to dampen it down.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #5 10 Oct 2024 11:17
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s-l1600

I have posted this before but couldn't find the thread, I have had one of these for years for using from a boat to get bait to the bottom quickly over deep water, I have para cord tied to it and secured to the boat encase it slips through the hands when wet and lowering down pretty expensive to replace around 50 odd quid, they're made for sea fishing when anchored or drifting.

They're still on ebay but it wont let me add a direct link, would take around a kilo of bait loaded.
dave_e dave_e
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Post #6 10 Oct 2024 12:51
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In reply to Post #5
I thought that was a delux twig system
Zack
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Post #7 10 Oct 2024 13:00
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Pack them into large PVA bags along with a heavy groundbait.

But there is also a simple method that sea anglers use when out in a boat dropping "Rubby Dubby" that can be modified to use from a Baitboat which I have used in the past over the yearsfor putting a lot of particles or boilies on the bottom in a very tight patch.

Get a large plastic bag and tie your line to the bottom of the inside of the bag by just making a "tuck" inside the bag and tie your line around it tight, you do not want to lose it, fill it with your bait and some heavy groundbait enough to sink the bag, and put it in the hopper in the normal way (do not secure the top of the bag, it wants to be left open. Send the boat out, drop the bag on the spot and let it sink freely without any tension on the line. It will sink vertically as the line will act like drouge trailing behind. If you do not want to use groundbait etc to add weight, use a 4oz lead etc and put that into the "Tuck" in the bottom of the bag and tie your line round that. Experiment first that your chosen weight will sink the bag, otherwise it will float.

Water pressure will collapse the bag and nothing will come out as it sinks, when it stops sinking, give it a tug and wind in fast and the action of winding in will open the bag inside out spilling everthing out.

In fact, if you read up on "Rubby Dubby" you will see how it works in principle and they even sell bags for it, bit big for carping though.

As with PVA bags and sticks etc, stick a bit of rig foam etc in and see where it pops up and that will give you a clue if your on the spot or well off it and adjust accordingly.

TheHappyMan
Posts: 197
Post #8 10 Oct 2024 13:07
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That's the bollox mate
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #9 10 Oct 2024 13:38
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just be cautious where you collect the molehill soil from, dogs love to piss on molehills, I don't know why so be mindful of that if you go to a local park field to collect it
carpy09 carpy09
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Post #10 11 Oct 2024 00:26
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What about the korum Boppers have a look on you tube see how it works
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant... Post #11 11 Oct 2024 10:02
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What happened to good old fashioned ground bait ‘cannonballs' dropped from a boat.

Simple and effective. Why do carpers always make things over complicated
Doing_a_brew Doing_a_brew
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Post #12 11 Oct 2024 10:04
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Was going to post the same. On deep rivers we've been using custom made ‘spoppers' for years that cast like spombs, sink then open when they hit the bottom. The Korum boppers were the first commercially made ones. Lowering from a boat onto a spot would be a doddle.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #13 11 Oct 2024 11:32
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In reply to Post #10
In reply to post #10 and #12, see post 2


TheHappyMan
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Post #14 11 Oct 2024 13:35
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Because in 16/18ft t of water on a 100 acre pit in strong wind ,you could be dropping you bait on the h block and it could end up miles away . Not making things complicated just eliminating as much error as possible.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #15 11 Oct 2024 14:50
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A old hack to get ground bait balls down quicky, mold it round a big stone.

EDIT, might not work so well with worms though
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