I'm looking for a bait that will work well in silt and not get to tainted from silt . Any suggestions?
In reply to Post #1
Find the cleaner silt that the fish are happy to feed in.
The bad silt has some sort has a hydrogen sulphide smell, anaerobic silt that aerobic bacteria will not colonise and break down, fish won't feed in it.
Find the cleaner silt that the fish are happy to feed in.
The bad silt has some sort has a hydrogen sulphide smell, anaerobic silt that aerobic bacteria will not colonise and break down, fish won't feed in it.
In reply to Post #1
I've used saturation to get round this before. Soak your baits in whatever you fancy (I used a hydrolysate + water) for a couple of days until they're completely saturated. The surface will still get discoloured but it prevents the baits from soaking up all that horrible silty sh*t.
I've used saturation to get round this before. Soak your baits in whatever you fancy (I used a hydrolysate + water) for a couple of days until they're completely saturated. The surface will still get discoloured but it prevents the baits from soaking up all that horrible silty sh*t.
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Some of the creamier baits seem to fish well on silty water's. Definitely a lot better than fishmeal I've found anyway. Always remember Geoff at ABS recommending adding a cream powdered palatant to your bait when fish silty water's. Definitely seems to break through the smell of silt. Although not completely.
Some of the creamier baits seem to fish well on silty water's. Definitely a lot better than fishmeal I've found anyway. Always remember Geoff at ABS recommending adding a cream powdered palatant to your bait when fish silty water's. Definitely seems to break through the smell of silt. Although not completely.
Random ramblings, nothing is gospel.
I've fished a lot of silty meres being in Cheshire, my 1st what would now be called 'Carp campaign' was on Lymm Dam for 2 years in the early 90's. The obvious 1st point, you don't want your bait tainted by the silt, I'd have to ask why not, that's what the Carp are used to. Having said that, that was my exact thought pattern all those years ago. I fished short over nighters and I wanted boilies to take on water and leak their attractants so I used a coarse bird food bait. The flavours I settled on which could stand up to the silt were Mulberry Florentine from Rod Hutchinson, Cream Cajouser from Nutrabaits and a fishmeal in Big Fish Mix with Raspberry..yes that subtle Rasberry really did stand up to the silt, I was surprised too!
It's my firm belief that the fish home in on the leaked attractants in the silt so getting them there was the way I approached it. Back then hydro's and pre soaking weren't really 'a thing' the closest I got was soaking my hookbaits in multi or minamino. I can totally see what Yonny has said working and the baits would be leaking from the moment they enter the water, and not exchanging as much silty water.
Silt, I was never afraid of it and was quite happy fishing in it. The nasty black sulphurous stuff is rarely exposed unless the over covering has been taken away so unless your plugging right throught the top layer (quite possible with todays trends for heavy leads) I wouldn't worry about it, the fish are used to feeding in it. On Lymm Dam I had far more fish from baits in the silt than I did on the old stream bed!
There's a couple of good youtube videos by Matthew Collins who runs a French fishery, re silt and fishing in it and how to identify it easily. It's virtually the same way I find spots in France where I tend to fish mostly silty waters too, check what's on your oar and if too deep see what's inside the conduit markr poles!
EDIT, forgot to say, there is a forum member Mereman, might be worth dropping him a pm.
I've fished a lot of silty meres being in Cheshire, my 1st what would now be called 'Carp campaign' was on Lymm Dam for 2 years in the early 90's. The obvious 1st point, you don't want your bait tainted by the silt, I'd have to ask why not, that's what the Carp are used to. Having said that, that was my exact thought pattern all those years ago. I fished short over nighters and I wanted boilies to take on water and leak their attractants so I used a coarse bird food bait. The flavours I settled on which could stand up to the silt were Mulberry Florentine from Rod Hutchinson, Cream Cajouser from Nutrabaits and a fishmeal in Big Fish Mix with Raspberry..yes that subtle Rasberry really did stand up to the silt, I was surprised too!
It's my firm belief that the fish home in on the leaked attractants in the silt so getting them there was the way I approached it. Back then hydro's and pre soaking weren't really 'a thing' the closest I got was soaking my hookbaits in multi or minamino. I can totally see what Yonny has said working and the baits would be leaking from the moment they enter the water, and not exchanging as much silty water.
Silt, I was never afraid of it and was quite happy fishing in it. The nasty black sulphurous stuff is rarely exposed unless the over covering has been taken away so unless your plugging right throught the top layer (quite possible with todays trends for heavy leads) I wouldn't worry about it, the fish are used to feeding in it. On Lymm Dam I had far more fish from baits in the silt than I did on the old stream bed!
There's a couple of good youtube videos by Matthew Collins who runs a French fishery, re silt and fishing in it and how to identify it easily. It's virtually the same way I find spots in France where I tend to fish mostly silty waters too, check what's on your oar and if too deep see what's inside the conduit markr poles!
EDIT, forgot to say, there is a forum member Mereman, might be worth dropping him a pm.
I've been fishing a silted up Mere for the last few years. I've been using a bog standard Atlantic heat 18mm bait with a Stcky Baits 10mm pop up topper to make a balanced snowman hook bait, fished over mixed particle, maize and Atlantic Heat boilies.
It's not the easiest lake but I've consistently caught, had some big hits occasionally and had the bigger fish out also. I've had baits out over 24hr on some occasions and they don't overly smell of silt on retrieval and I can still smell the bait on sniffing it.
I'm now back to making my own bait and my fish meal bait flavoured with curry and garlic or fenugreek and black pepper is starting to work well also as my confidence in it increases.
I would say don't over worry about the silt.
It's not the easiest lake but I've consistently caught, had some big hits occasionally and had the bigger fish out also. I've had baits out over 24hr on some occasions and they don't overly smell of silt on retrieval and I can still smell the bait on sniffing it.
I'm now back to making my own bait and my fish meal bait flavoured with curry and garlic or fenugreek and black pepper is starting to work well also as my confidence in it increases.
I would say don't over worry about the silt.
In reply to Post #4
Cream Stim if I remember correctly?
Cream Stim if I remember correctly?
In reply to Post #4
I used the corresponding powdered Mulberry palatant, still have some left, I use it on maggots every now and then. Used to love saying to the wife have a wiff of this, those powders didn't half get up your nose.
What was the cream palatant Nutrabits used to do, the wife loved that one, can I remember the name of it?
I used the corresponding powdered Mulberry palatant, still have some left, I use it on maggots every now and then. Used to love saying to the wife have a wiff of this, those powders didn't half get up your nose.
What was the cream palatant Nutrabits used to do, the wife loved that one, can I remember the name of it?
In reply to Post #8
Creamy super sweet?
Creamy super sweet?
In reply to Post #9
That was a Nutrabaits product. Really good one too!
That was a Nutrabaits product. Really good one too!
In reply to Post #9
That's the one, your a star, been bugging me all day
That smell was sublime
That's the one, your a star, been bugging me all day
That smell was sublime
Agreed, awesome stuff.......I also liked their chocolate super sweet.......